I happen to know that there are people who are currently in the New Testament Christian Church who would love to leave the NTCC for good. The reason they haven't left yet is because their spouse, as of right now wants to remain with the New Testament Christian Church. The people who want to leave are afraid that if they do, their spouse won't leave with them and their departure could result in divorce. Well you have more options than you know so please let me explain.
It has been a long standing policy in the NTCC that if a man is going to pastor, he must have a wife. So for example, when you have a woman who wants to leave the NTCC, she often won't because her husband is a pastor. Well just so everyone knows, the NTCC has lightened up on that standard. Rev Bentley is currently a pastor in Georgia and he is not married nor has he ever been as of the last I knew. So what is the difference? In this case the woman could absolutely stop even attending services with the NTCC and her husband could continue to pastor just like Bro Bentley. She just wouldn't go to the church. If he is a pastor of a serviceman's home the NTCC leadership could move him to a civilian church. That doesn't make him any less qualified; the Kekel's son is attending a secular Catholic college. Is the pastor who's wife wants to leave any less qualified or is this just another double standard? The Bible says he should have his children in subjection; 1 Tim 3:4. So what, it's ok for Kekel to be a church leader and not have his child in subjection but it's not ok for a man to pastor if his wife doesn't want to go to the same church? In fact it doesn't even say in Timothy or Titus that the wife has to be in subjection. The emphasis is on the children in both books so Kekel has really missed the mark. READ IT.
The next thing: There is nothing wrong with a husband or wife staying with their spouse even if their spouse leaves the NTCC. I know the NTCC leadership considers the spouse that leaves to be an unbeliever and I don't agree with that assumption, but the NTCC makes the rules so lets allow them to have their way here for a moment.
1 Cor 7:12&13: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
So here is the point people. Lets say a woman wants to leave the NTCC but her husband won't leave. Then Ma'am, just flat out stop attending services with the NTCC. If your husband puts you away under those circumstances, he doesn't love you anyway and he is committing sin. Don't apply for divorce, just stay with the man if it still pleases you; just as the scripture says. Paul said he shouldn't put you away. And if they still do consider you a believer, that is all the more reason you should stay together.
Let me tell you another reason it shouldn't matter to your spouse or the NTCC leadership if you leave. I know a brother who has been in the Phenix City, Columbus Georgia NTCC church for I'm guessing close to ten years or more. I know because we were in the same church together for years. Well his wife has never agreed to become a member of the New Testament Christian Church. She attends a Church of God in Christ. She wears jewelry, pants, cuts her hair short and has a full time job and her own TV show. She also attends conferences because the NTCC leadership allows her. So what does she do when she goes to conference? First, before I say any more let me say this. She is an absolutely wonderful lady who I think the world of. The dude has a good wife and he knows it and he ain't about to put her away or try to divorce her just because she doesn't go to the same church. Anyway when she goes to conference, she takes off the jewelry, puts on a dress and the key thing here is the New Testament Christian Church leadership knows all about it. If you think I'm kidding I'm not. I'll guarantee the pastor called for permission based on what I was told.
So if they allow her to be with her husband, then they should allow you to do the same if you don't want to be a member of the NTCC anymore. Now having said that, if you want to leave the NTCC and your husband or wife wants to leave you, refuse to apply for divorce and let them do it. Then you'll know they don't love you anyway and believe me you don't need them. I know that is hard, but if your husband or wife doesn't care for you as much as they care for some crooked, double standard, rule ridden church, then your relationship is worth little or nothing to begin with. They must know by now that being with the NTCC doesn't translate to being with God and if they don't they are seriously deceived. But if they truly do love you, they won't have a problem with you staying with them even if you do leave the NTCC. The brother from Columbus brings his wife to conference and she has never been an NTCC member as she REGULARLY goes to a completely different church which follows completely different standards. That is love and it's not conditional just like the love of Jesus. This man and woman get along perfectly fine attending completely different churches so why can't you? Are you going to be miserable the rest of your life just to please your misguided wife or husband? Life is too short; don't waste it in a church you want nothing to do with. You have other options that don't include remaining a part of the crooked NTCC if you don't want to.
Chief says
ReplyDelete"1 Cor 7:12&13: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him"
not as cut and dry as it seems cha cha chief. women who leave and stayed married to the ntcc husband are put through hell. cases you described are an exception to the rule. ldrshp instructs the so-called saved husband to cut her off financially,children, even sexually.
"ldrshp instructs the so-called saved husband to cut her off financially,children, even sexually."
ReplyDeleteThat's because that ldrshp is a bunch sick puppies, who will pay one day for all of their abuses.
Chief, they use the "pleased to dwell with him" clause in an insidious and underhanded way: according to RW, the wife's unwillingness to obey her husband (particularly when he orders her to go to his church) constitutes her not being pleased to dwell with him. They turn the scripture on its head to justify their marriage-busting ways. It's sick!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteldrshp instructs the so-called saved husband to cut her off financially, children, even sexually.
Chief said...
In most cases if the woman cuts the husband off sexually, he goes through a harder time than she does. Not only that, if he does do that, he is also going against the bible. So then what you have is a situation where the guy couldn't legitimately consider himself saved anyway. It's not against the bible for a woman to work, so at that point, let her go find a job and open up her own account and get her own car. I know it's not totally that simple but let me say this.
Other than physical abuse, a woman can make a mans life more miserable than visa versa in many cases. Anyway it goes back to what I said. "IF" he really loves her or if its the other way around and "IF" she really loves him, eventually someone is going to break down and put the spouse before the church.
The reality is, it's not like these NTCC people are living for God anyway; they are living for RWD and the dude is ungodly. If you are trying to serve God why would you stay with the NTCC? For the spouse? If the NTCC leadership advises what you described, and in the example you gave the husband does it, that is all the more reason for the spouse to leave the NTCC.
Chief
Vic said...
ReplyDeleteThey turn the scripture on its head to justify their marriage-busting ways. It's sick!
Chief said...
Isn't that the truth Bro. It is sick. RWD, Olson, Kekel and there wives are are some sick people. The way they advocate breaking up marriages is really sick. That is why I advise the spouse who doesn't want to be with the NTCC to just stop going to church with the NTCC. Once they get these ungodly false convictions out of their head they won't mind sticking up for themselves and give the abusive NTCC spouse a piece of their mind.
That is why RWD doesn't want women to work. Believe it or not I actually just figured this out right this minute. It entraps them. When they don't have their own money they can't get away. RWD knows if the woman gets a job, there is little the man can do to her other than physically abuse her. You know I've really been on to something for a while now and I didn't even know it. The effectiveness of RWD's whole scheme hinges upon women not working on their very own job. His whole serviceman's home scheme fails completely if the woman just walks out. It doesn't matter to RWD if the org gets tithe from a handful of women. One woman not working on a real job while taking care of the serviceman's home results in the NTCC getting tithe from an Army of men. Sounds like a good trade off to me.
WOW. RWD has turned these women into a bunch of slaves is what he's done. It's even worse then that. It's very difficult for them to escape because they have no money of there own. Anonymous who said, "not so cut and dry as it seems cha cha chief" really turned on the light. RWD's scheme is worse and more diabolical than I ever imagined. RDUB is one sick puppy.
Cha Cha Chief
If a man cuts of his woman financially and cuts off the children because she no longer wants to be with the NTCC, he is one sick, sorry, sad piece of trash. Based on what I've heard, that sounds like something Wright would do. Hey exers, I've got an idea. There are plenty of us. I'm not talking a whole lot of money her; $20 or $50 ain't nothing to me. If there is a woman out there who falls the catagory described and if we all pitched in between $20 and $50, we could send it to the woman who her piece of trash punk husband cut off and she would have all the food she ever dreamed of for her and the kids and I'm not kidding. If the husband doesn't have sex with her so be it as long as she has food to eat. All she'd have to do is get her own PO box close by where she lives. The piece of trash punk husband can't keep her locked in the house and if he tries she needs to call the police and have him arrested for kidnapping and refusing to give her enough money for food. Then the punk won't even have a ministry.
ReplyDeleteIf there is a woman trapped out their you call me and I'll set it up. I can't speak for everyone else but I think there are some folks out there who wouldn't mind kicking in a little bit and it all adds up. I'd give a report right here on this blog and tell how much we raised and who we raised it for. Then what the Sister needs to do is stand in front of the sorry husbands sorry church on Sunday morning and tell the people coming in what the false prophet is really all about. Then watch what little numbers he has drop to zero. That sorry dude will wish he never tried that mess then. My phone number is at the end of this thread on the front page. Lets start a revolution!!! For those of you who think I'm joking I'm not. I know it's not just that simple but I don't mind trying if it came down to it. The NTCC ain't nothing without women. You women have more control than you think. The rest of the women in this world have figured it out and so should you.
Cha Chief, Cha Chief, Cha Chief Chief Chief
I know this is all a little far fetched and I don't know anyone who specifically falls in this catagory but I figured I'd throw it out there anyway.
Wow Jeff, you are on the war path. That sounds like a pretty good plan and I would definitely support it if there was a wife out there that was in a bad situation. I'm not sure that it would be the best solution for every situation. There are some husbands that are torn between leaving the ntcc with their wives but fear keeps there. I beleive that there are some abusers and your plan would be effective for a wife in that situation. They also are kept there because of their congregations. They don't want to abandon those they have reached. It's very complex and the borg has made it that way. They have thought of everything and covered their bases well.
ReplyDeleteSome of the couples that are stuck in this miserable situation, have talked about leaving and contemplated it for some time. Because of fear or their brainwashed mentality, one of them is afraid to make that move, thus effecting both. It would take a very strong woman to make the stand that you are talking about. It's an all around lousy situation to be in. What if they are overseas?
I don't want to encourage anyone to leave their spouse because that would make us just as bad as the ntcc is. However, if the ntcc is sucking the life out of you as it does to just about everyone, this might be your best avenue. If you refuse to attend the church services and excuse yourself from the fellowship, you won't get publicly blasted, (there is strength in numbers). If your husband really loves you, he will not mistreat you or forsake you for the ntcc. Find a different church that has services on the same days and if you can't drive to it see if they will pick you up. Maybe you will meet some really great friends that you can spend time with on soul-winning and prayer meeting nights. You might find a church and some new friends that emphasize the love, mercy and grace of God, and the sacrifice that Christ made for you on the cross. You might just find out for yourself as many of us have that there is much more to Christianity than the shallow works doctrine that the ntcc has placed in your mind.
Count me in Jeff.
DnA
DnA said...
ReplyDeleteIt's very complex and the borg has made it that way. They have thought of everything and covered their bases well.
Chief said...
Ain't that the truth. I do understand but I'm trying to embolden these women or men to realize that there are more options then just to stay with the NTCC while wasting ten more years of their short life. Life only comes once around and the NTCC will waste practically all of it if you let them.
I don't know how often it works but there is a method to my madness. If nothing else but to provoke thought that the NTCC has done everything to stifle.
Chief
DnA said...
ReplyDeleteIf you refuse to attend the church services and excuse yourself from the fellowship, you won't get publicly blasted, (there is strength in numbers). If your husband really loves you, he will not mistreat you or forsake you for the ntcc. Find a different church that has services on the same days
Chief said...
There you go. Now you're talking. I like what DnA has to say. Don is my battle buddy.
Cha Chief, Cha Chief, Cha Chief Chief Chief
What a messed up situation the ntcc puts people in. It's unconscionable to imagine that a man would leave his wife because she wants religious and spiritual freedom. There are probably some men out there that are just going through the motions, also, for the benefit of their wives. These ntcc leaders will suck the life out of you if you let them.
ReplyDeleteWhat the ntcc really needs is a mass exodus. Everyone should just say, "Enough is Enough". Get a job, rent a house, take down the ntcc sign and do what they did in the New Testament. Have church or bible study in your own house. When Rwd or his goons come around to collect your minister's license, tell him that he is not welcome on your property and if he doesn't get his sorry butt off of your property, you will physically remove him. There is no law that says you have to give him back your minister's license. I'd keep it just to make him mad.
You don't need his credentials anyway; it's not illegal to have bible studies in your own house or church services for that matter. If you are not abusing people you have the right to do what ever you want under your own roof. You think Rwd has credentials? Have you ever seen them? When Rwd comes around to your church he is nothing more than a glorified IRS agent or tax collector. He's just showing up to make sure everything is going the way he wants it to and the money is rolling in at the pace he desires it to.
DnA
Chief, I was told that in the church in Wa there are a bunch of ministers that are now without their wife. One of them is your friend cntrll.
ReplyDeleteSo you are right on the mark again because the whole program relies heavily on women.
Can you imagine the servicemen's home without a woman, to cook and clean and do all that work?
I admire those ladies that have done their time in those homes.
I remember many instances where the wives were reprimanded for what they would cook!
This ladies would fix meals according to their budgets and here they were denigrated in conferences for having to fix "shepperd's pie" or
"casseroles"
I could go on and on but one that stuck with me was where the wife of one of the servicemen's home director had been ill and the wife of the overseer entered the servicemen's home kitchen and the first thing she said was "this floor looks terrible!" The next day the director's were on their hands and knees stripping and waxing so that it would look shiny for the pleasure of the overseers.
I salute these women. You are right Chief, many are stuck and I pray that they will find strength to remove those chains of man made doctrines and fly free!
Did I read that right? Did someone say Peggy Cantrell left Wayne Cantrell and or the Ntcc?
ReplyDeleteChiefster said:
ReplyDelete"To those who feel trapped by the NTCC; you have more options than you know"
Jeff, what if we are having a greater effect on the ntcc than we ever imagined? Have you noticed that the ntcc has almost completely stopped commenting on the blogs? This tells me that the ntcc has not only made the blogs off limits, but it also tells me that they monitor the blogs to see if anyone is being "disobedient". But at the same time, your blog is getting more traffic than it ever has.
Taking all of this into consideration, I have to think that there are more options than we know. The dilemma that people in the ntcc have, is that they have been made to believe that if they leave the ntcc, they are leaving God. We know that you are getting hundreds of people from all over the place reading this blog every day.
I present the following challenge to those of you who read the blogs and this one in particular. It doesn't matter if you are a member or a pastor, we challenge you to post anonymously on this blog. Don't give any names, circumstances or anything that would give you away. If you know something is wrong in the ntcc and can't put your finger on it, but your own common sense and wisdom tells you that things just don't add up, We challenge you to come up with a question pertaining to something that bugs you about the ntcc and ask it on this blog anonymously. Just one question starting with: "Where in the bible does it say...." and finish the question with something that you have noticed in the ntcc that doesn't make sense. For example: Where in the bible does it say that all Christians pay tithe, where in the bible does it say that women can't work on a job. I can think of hundreds of questions. If we get a lot of questions, we can invite the ntcc leadership to answer some of the questions that their own members have on this blog. We know that they read it all the time.
Of course we know the ntcc leadership will make up some sorry excuse like like we are not going to entertain the wishes of the devil. Their own unwillingness to answer questions put forth by their own members will prove that the majority of the ntcc's rules are man made and are not rooted in the bible.
So the challenge goes out to the hundreds that read this blog, Will you go one step further than just reading it? Will you ask one question anonymously?
Sincerely,
Anonymous
You have my curiosity now. Can you be a little more specific about your claim? Do you have any details about someone's wife leaving their husband?
ReplyDeleteChief
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteSo the challenge goes out to the hundreds that read this blog, Will you go one step further than just reading it? Will you ask one question anonymously?
Chief said...
I'm all for it.
Chief
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI remember many instances where the wives were reprimanded for what they would cook!
Chief said...
I've got a cure for all that garbage ladies. You tell that sorry overseer or his wife or your husband that if they don't like what is cooked, they can cook it themselves. "You got a problem with my cooking, cook it your self"! You are a human being just like they are and you don't deserve to be treated like that. Reprimanded? I'll give those slave driver, control mongers some reprimanded. "You don't like my cooking? Well carry your butt in here and slave in this hot kitchen for a while you jerk and then come tell me about my cooking; but until then, just shut up"!
I've watched a few of those control monger overseers and their wannabe leader nitpicking wifes show up at a serviceman's home to critique the pastor's wife. It's nothing but a bunch of garbage is what it is. Ladies, don't put up with that mess and don't let your husband talk to you like you're his slave either. I watched a pastor do it to his wife right in front of me because he didn't think his food was fixed right. He was acting like nothing but a flat out jerk. I never forgot that. I thought slavery ended years ago? Someone forgot to tell the NTCC leadership.
Chiefster
I was just watching the family feud and the question was:
ReplyDeleteQ: Name annoying groups that go door to door.
The number 1 answer was?
A: Religious groups.
I never thought I'd feel this way but that certainly applies to the NTCC.
DnA wrote..."They don't want to abandon those they have reached."
ReplyDeleteOne need not worry about this; the NTCC does this for you. You are regularly moved.
So, just stop going to conferences so you can save some money (as so many already have), wait for your next move, and then leave after the new Pastor takes over.
You can even get a job (even if you're full time), so you can save even more money quicker.
You'll need money for rent, a car, furniture, etc. And, if you have family you can stay with them during the transition, which is even better.
You’ll find that even though you abandoned your family for all these years, they will help you, and will just be glad you are back in their life again.
Gregory
Greg said...
ReplyDeleteYou’ll find that even though you abandoned your family for all these years, they will help you, and will just be glad you are back in their life again.
Chief said...
It's called love. Something the NTCC leadership hasn't learned about yet. If they read the Bible about 10 more times just maybe they'll come across that concept.
Chiefster
Yes, that friend of yours is in graham and he is flying solo, in other words he is not with his wife. He is living in the dorms. As to the specifics, I don't know what happened, you'll have to ask him.
ReplyDeleteHow come people can't just come out and say what and who they are talking about?
ReplyDeleteThe anon. poster was talking about bro. contrel (I don't know if that is how to spell it) but it is true, he is living in the dorms and his wife is not with him.
ReplyDeleteApparently he is single again because I was told he was talking to some girl there in bible school.
"Apparently he is single again because I was told he was talking to some girl there in bible school."
ReplyDeleteMaybe third time will be the charm...
Chief, I take exception to your statement about the NTCC leadership not knowing anything about love. The NTCC leadership loves all Christians. Well, as long as they pay tithe and give in the offering.
ReplyDelete"All Christians pay tithe and give in the offering".
How you like me now.
Wayne Cantrell is living in the dorms in Graham? What in the world? Are you serious? Boy I've heard it all now!!! You've got to be kidding me? Holy Cow!!! Me and my wife know him and his "wife?" well. They used to come to our house and we would go to their house. If that is true, that is such a shame. Is this a prank? I'm only asking because you never know on these blogs. Thanks for the info.
ReplyDeleteChief
I don't know if there is only one cantrell but the one in graham is the one who knows alot about remodeling and construction, I don't know him well, but that is the one who is now single.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI don't know if there is only one cantrell but the one in graham is the one who knows alot about remodeling and construction
Chief said...
Yeah that is him. Thanks for the info. He's talking to a lady in Bible School? Wow! This will be number 3 for him if they hook up. He's in his mid 50s; somewhere around there in age for sure. Once again, Wow! Boy did his wife put up with some garbage with the NTCC. I feel sorry for her but I'm glad she got out. I hope she is happy. I'm sure she is happy being out of the org but I hope she is ok with them being apart. That is so sad. I absolutely can't stand the NTCC.
My wife is not happy about it at all. She is real sad to hear this. The NTCC sucks.
Chief
Here is the other question. Is Peggy Cantrell ok? I hope nothing happened to her? Of course I wouldn't know. I have no way of getting in contact with Wayne Cantrell and it's quite likely he wouldn't talk to me even if I could. In most cases I'm dirt in the NTCCs eyes.
ReplyDeleteChief
Chief said...
ReplyDeleteIt's called love. Something the NTCC leadership hasn't learned about yet. If they read the Bible about 10 more times just maybe they'll come across that concept.
Chiefster
LTravis said...
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
What really helped me to leave the ntcc was the complete lack of love by the leaders. God said His commandments are not grievous, do yourself a huge service and look up the meaning of grievous. Jesus said...
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
I ask you; tell me of any leader in the ntcc that fits our Lord's description of Himself. Meek and lowly in heart those are God's own words.
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
The greatest thing in the Bible is God's love, John 3:16.
I'm only asking you to look at the scriptures, alone with God, and He will reveal the truth.
God is teaching me that true holiness has everything to do with loving Him and others, as I embrace heaven I’m able to let go of this world.
I'm speaking from my heart and I know the hurt and pain the ntcc produced in my life. I have been set free to once again experience real grace from God. The devil twisted the scripture to make his own doctrine so does the ntcc.
Is anybody helping out Sister Warwick from a few blog posts below?
ReplyDeleteMaybe if someone knows how to get in contact with her, we all can donate what we can and be of some help if the NTCC won't do it.
I don't mind helping...just paying it forward and looking to help those who are in need.
=)
Dawn said...
ReplyDeleteMaybe if someone knows how to get in contact with her, we all can donate what we can and be of some help if the NTCC won't do it.
Jeff said...
Hey Dawn, it's good to hear from you. I hope everything is going well with you. What you've suggested initially did cross my mind but here is the conclusion that I've drawn. As far as we know, she is still a member of the NTCC. I'm sure she pays tithes to the church. Lets say we pitched in and sent her $150.00. She is going to pay tithe to the church on that money. Please don't get upset with what I'm about to write but I'd rather throw my money in the trash than see one more dime of it go to the NTCC and that is exactly what would happen if we gave her money.
In addition to that we'd be doing no more than putting a band-aid on a sucking chest wound. The problem isn't her husband getting in a car accident. The problem is them giving too much of their money to the NTCC and that is why they are broke. The other problem is the NTCC teaching that it's a sin for a woman to work when the Bible says no such thing. Proverbs Chapter 31 shows totally the opposite and "keeper at home" means to be a good house keeper or to be domestically inclined which means you have the tendency to spend time around your house.
My wife is a good house keeper and she has the tendency to spend time around our home and she also teaches 1st grade at the local school. If something were to happen to me, she would still have money coming in. If I sent money to every broke person in the NTCC I'd be broke too and then who is going to send me money? The NTCC certainly isn't going to do it and not only that I don't want someone to send me money. I work and my wife works and by the grace of God we have a pretty good chunk of money coming in. If it means taking care of my family I'll work on the weekends or the evenings. People in the NTCC generally won't do that because it interferes with their sorry man made schedule and as a result a lot of them are broke.
I hope this serves as a good wake up call for Sis Warwick. Letting a church keep you broke and refusing to work is the wrong answer. Well that is my thoughts on the whole issue and I sincerely hope you understand where I'm coming from. I respect you having a good heart and I totally understand but I can't give my money to such a crooked organization. I used to but the light came on and now those days are over for good. It's bad enough to know the NTCC is still earning interst off the money I gave.
Chief
Oh and I forgot; she would put some of the money in the offering. I might as well send my money to the NTCC. Now if she leaves the church that is a whole different song and dance. But for now, that is like giving your money to someone who is addicted to gambling. All they are going to do with it is gamble it away. You give money to someone in the NTCC and all they're going to do is give it to the crooked NTCC leadership in tithes and offerings. "All Christians pay tithe and give in the offerings right?" Wrong!!! All brainwashed suckers pay tithes and give in the NTCC offerings".
ReplyDeleteIn this case I could see the NTCC buying this lady a car. They would highlight it, she would stand up and testify about the generosity of the NTCC leadership. Next thing you know, everybody would be giving even more money to the NTCC. It's trick and I saw that stunt pulled on a church by a guy who was a con artist. This situation really took place and a TV show was made about it. The church leader con artist was what the show was all about. The guy knew that if he gave people money like he was doing some charitable act, they would give far more money than he gave back to him so that is exactly what he did and it worked. The Sheriff even came into the church and read off this guys criminal record in front of everybody which included being a convicted con artist and a convicted felon. So guess what the con artist did then? Gave more money back to the people and what did they do after? Gave way more money than he gave back to him because they thought he was so charitable. It was nothing more than a con game and the crooked preacher even admitted it and there were still tons of people who wanted to stick with him. I was amazed while watching this show that these people in his church could be such a large group of brainwashed suckers.
Well the NTCC is the same way. With all this information available? People who are in the NTCC are some serious suckers. All you'd have to read is what Kekel wrote in the previous thread and anyone with good sense would leave the NTCC.
But they won't and you know why? Because they have to believe in something and they can't bear the thought of having to admit to themselves that they've been suckered out of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. They can't face their family and admit that they've been took. Well the moral of the story is I ain't giving one more penny to the NTCC.
Chief
One thing I hated was when the spouse would rat on the other spouse to the pastor or leadership.
ReplyDeleteI am saying this because I have known of many stories like this where one or the other are put in a bad light with the org.
It seems that the org, doesn't promote marriages because if it did, then they wouldn't pit one toward the other, no matter what. It seems that they don't want the couple to have any solidarity to each other.
Because then we'll have couples leaving the org. together, jut like the shunks and the reeds.
I feel sorry for this man cantrel, because he is without his soul-mate.
I never was around them so I really don't know what kind of people they were but going on what you say of them, chief, they seemed like good people.
It is sad that the words of the vows don't mean anything when you are put in a situation when you have to choose between your spouse or the org.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI never was around them so I really don't know what kind of people they were but going on what you say of them, chief, they seemed like good people.
Chief said...
They are good people and I still don't know for certain what happened to Cantrell's Wife? I'm fairly certain they are not together but I know none of the particulars. I don't know if he left her or something happened to her or what? I don't know if she stayed in Texas or what happened? I just hope she is alright. I know Bro Cantrell is brainwashed pretty bad but that still doesn't explain what happened to his wife? I could speculate and I'd probable be right but if I'm wrong it makes me look non-credible.
I know Cantrell thinks Olson is the greatest and I think Olson is the worst of them all. I have more respect than Davis and Kekel than I do for Olson. Olson is like Haman in the book of Esther except Olson's boss is a crook and Haman's boss wasn't. Olson is a weasel.
Chief
Not long ago, I was thinking about a few couples that have been a part of ntcc for 20 or more years.
ReplyDeleteThe last I heard was that they are not in the ntcc as ministers but they've decided to leave the city they were pastoring and go to be with family.
One couple in particular comes to mind and it is not to say that maybe they didn't do ALL they could do for the work of God, but they did EVERYTHING they knew, and Still their homelife didn't improve.
I find it interesting that now that they are away from ntcc, their lives have been improving, little by little, while the other couple that stayed close to the org. is still living the same life and even having more problems.
The husband ratting on the wife, saying that she doesn't want to do the will of God and all that garbage. And this poor sister is having all kinds of medical issues because she is put in the position that she is the one who doesn't want to do anything for God.
She probably feels trapped not knowing that she will be better off leaving.