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| Big Turkey Leg |
To the left are pictures of "finger food". That old turkey leg got picked up by someone's hand and they bit a big chuck right out of it. You see that nice greasy piece of pizza and those fries and onion rings? You pick those up with your fingers. You know why those fries are smiling? It's a happy meal, and it only stays happy if the good little children pick out the fries with their fingers. If those sweet children aren't allowed to, it gets real sad with a pitiful frown. Olson, you big meanie. Don't listen to Olson the control monger and don't let him get you all convicted with thinking you've lost your salvation cause you've eaten these foods with your hands. Practical theology? Are you kidding me? That is more like practical control mongering? That is a bunch of nonsense. That junk has nothing to do with salvation. Keep that stuff for the princes, queens and nobles in the Buckingham Palace. Stop worrying about your spoon hitting the side of your coffee cup while you're mixing up the cream and sugar. How many people do you think have gotten saved because they watched you eating fries, onion rings and chicken wings with a fork for crying out loud? NOT ONE!!! In fact, you've probably driven more people away from your church and Jesus with that mess because they didn't want to be anything like you. That is no more than a bunch of legalistic trash perpetuated by a bunch of control mongers who have nothing better to dream up. I understand good manners and I got that, but picking up fries, wings and onion rings with your fingers has nothing to do with a "lack" of good manners. For RWD, Olson and Kekel to sit there and gawk at you in a judgmental fashion while you are eating is ridiculous. These are the kinds of things I can't stand about the New Testament Christian Church.
Where in the Bible does it say you can't pick food up with your fingers. What do you think they used to hand out and break apart the fishes and the loaves with; a set of tongs? That is just another bunch of bologna rules, no pun intended. Man I'll snatch a piece of bologna and cheese right out of the fridge and role it up like a hot dog and gobble it right down with my hands! Oh, I suppose I'm not saved now. Do you think Jesus was worried about the garbage. RWD and Olson should spend more time worrying about the fatherless, poor and the widow rather than worrying about how you eat some chicken and fries. When they run out of other stuff to NITPICK about, they start watching how you eat. That's called "straining at a gnat". Those guys are the most judgmental hypocrites I've ever met in my life. God could care less about how you eat a chicken leg. God cares about your heart so stop trying to be a man pleaser while being over concerned about how you eat in Olson's, Kekel's or RWD's presents. Chief
They don't want you to enjoy life or ever have a chance to relax. Even while you are eating, (which should be a time of total relaxation) they want to place a bunch of bogus rules upon you. Not for me. I just slapped a piece of chicken between some bread and I gobbled it down and I didn't use a fork. Eat your heart out Olson. In fact while I was writing this message, I just walked to my fridge, took out another piece of chicken with my bare lascivious fingers and bit off a chunk and then, (you better hold your breath) I licked my finger.
ReplyDeleteBoy I'm sure to be judged now. Fooey! Rules, rules, rules, Christianity NTCC style.
Chief
They do not want you to enjoy life or be near your family that is for sure. They would definitely look down on me for attending my brothers basketball game this Saturday. I really enjoy watching his teams, His current team is three games from winning another state championship. If they win it will be win#300 for my brother whos name is Pat. It falls on Saint Patricks Day. If they win these next two games I intend on being there. If I was still in the cult I do not think that would have been the case...Bernie Bassett
ReplyDeleteAnon, that's really cool, I hope they win it all.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a Pastor in the Great State of Texas, I would take some of the brethren, along with our wives to the local high school games on Friday night. Man, those were some great games. Of course RWD didn't know about this because that old ogre would have definitely frowned on me doing that, not because it was worldly, but because I was having fun.
I forgot to say these are girls if they were in the ntcc they would definitely have not played because of the attire. They would have lost out on an oppertunity to play in the sectional final which was held in the Carrier Dome in Syracuse. The next night The Orange picked up win #30 , that is pretty cool!
ReplyDeleteBernie said:
ReplyDelete"If they win it will be win#300 for my brother whos name is Pat. It falls on Saint Patricks Day."
DnA said:
Am I understanding this right, your brother is the coach of the girls team? Anyway, congratulations. That is huge.
The ntcc are a bunch of party poopers. Any thing that brings a little bit of joy into someones life has a sin label attached to it. I hope your brother's team goes to state championship and that nobody lusts after them with those loose baggy shorts that go down past their knees. We all know that Girls play basketball in shorts to entice men. I hope that you get a large Popcorn with butter and eat it by the handfuls while you are enjoying the game. If you get a hot dog make sure you bring a fork and a plate with you so you can display proper etiquette and people won't say, "That guys supposed to be a Christian, but he's eating with his fingers".
The ntcc is just a bunch of fault finding hypocrites that impose heavy burdens on people. I've seen RWD gobbling down chili dogs at Hardees, with chili dripping out of his face, but he wasn't eating them with a fork, and they are pretty messy.
This is a really good scripture that describes the ntcc:
Mat 15:1-9 "Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
But ye say, Whosoever shall say to [his] father or [his] mother, [It is] a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
And honour not his father or his mother, [he shall be free]. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
[Ye] hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men."
Eating food with your fingers or watching kids play basketball is not a sin. The ntcc is teaching for doctrines the commandments of men and not only that, they don't even come close to following their own doctrines themselves. How about that? They just make you follow all of their stupid rules and laugh at you. They know you are stupid, just like we were at one time. They know you will not question them. Meanwhile, in addition to breaking their own rules, these unscrupulous control freaks are committing far worse sins than you ever dreamed of.
DnA
Yes My brother Pat is the girls varsity head coach at South Jefferson high school, he als o teaches Physics there. The near 300 wins is in his fourteenth season coaching girls two state championships 4 final fours 8 sectional championships in 10 years 11 straight league championships... previously he coached varsity Boys for ten years I think ..He will be coaching Boys aau for the second year this spring and summer... He was offered a head coaching position at Saint Lawrence University ..very proud of him check out my facebook page for videos etc Bernie
ReplyDeleteBernie,
ReplyDeleteI seen your facebook posts about S. Jefferson, but didn't realize that your brother was coach until now. We are happy for you, and your brother and all the girls at S. Jefferson and hope they continue to win. Your brother has a remarkable record and that is something that I'm sure you are proud of. To have that many winning teams and championships is amazing especially in a state the size of New York. For a program to have that much success in 10 years speaks volumes about how well coached the S. Jefferson team is. We will be rooting for them.
DnA
The first substantial post Mike Kekel (aka "The Whirlwind") left on FACTnet castigated me for licking honey from the rim of a jar, like it was some kind of mortal sin and prima facie evidence of my reprobation. Well, I still like honey (even keep bees), and will lick a drop from the jar from time to time. My conscience must be seared, because no sense of guilt has engulfed me for this barbaric act. I've even degenerated to sticking my finger in to scoop some out--it appears I've degenerated.
ReplyDeleteLicking jars is way better than licking some NTCC leader's boots.
People in the ntcc are hindered from having success in their lives. There are some really smart people with all kinds of potential in the ntcc that will never become what they can become because of the lies they are being told. It's not the TV, or the basketball, or eating finger food, it's you're joy that they are after. It would be one thing if the hypocrites in the ntcc lived what they preached, but they boldly and arrogantly flaunt their attitude of being above their own man-made laws around for everyone to see.
ReplyDeleteTheir rules are stupid anyway. We were stupid for following them for so many years. Kekel is very ignorant for trying to control people after they leave the ntcc. He's not even having success controlling the ones that are in, not to mention his own son's failure at Christianity. If you can't rule your own house you have no business imposing a bunch of non-biblical rules on others. Think about it you ntcc'rs. You are following liars and false teachers. They are making this stuff up just to keep you in your place. They don't want you checking out the blogs, not because they are ungodly, but because they don't want you to see the plain common sense truth that so many other people have seen.
If you can't be a Christian and eat french fries with your fingers, but you can turn your back on the poor and afflicted of this world, what's that say about your Christianity? As Chief said, it is straining at a gnat. If you have to ask permission to get a ride with another Christian or anyone for that matter, but you can shout amen when the frothy mouthed maniac behind the pulpit runs people off by telling them they are on their way to hell because the women have ear-rings in their ears, or the men have facial hair, what does that say about your Christianity?
Disgusting.
DnA
MDR said..."When I was a Pastor in the Great State of Texas, I would take some of the brethren, along with our wives to the local high school games on Friday night. Man, those were some great games. Of course RWD didn't know about this because that old ogre would have definitely frowned on me doing that, not because it was worldly, but because I was having fun."
ReplyDeleteEwww, I'm telling...I wonder how many times the Kekels or RWD went to one of Grants football games? You have cheerleaders, guys in skin tight shorts, and people that they would look down their noses at but accept their tithe money. What is crazy is that I'm sure that brought more of a sense of friendship and comraderie in the Servicemen's Home in Texas than going to one of those "Barf-fays" (as you so aptly put it) and listening to a bunch of people gourge themselves at the feeding trough. Num-num-snort-num-num. As you think, "Dear Lord, do you really need the 5th plate brother?"
Then you'd have RWD-bag sit back with his stomache distended and full of the local fineries with his hands gingerly folded and him scowling and surveying until that lone brave (foolish) minister asked a question. Sometimes those questions by the ministers were loaded, meaning to direct RWD to a certain subject in order to jack up another minister whose either exercising liberty or, in their estimate, bad judgment or even sin. Sometimes it was to break the tension and to get him talking about something rather than have this awkward silence and having him have someone get the car for him. Of course if that happened you'd all get in line to shake his hand, hug his neck, and hug his wife. It was the ritual that I'm sure still continues until this day...
Vic said...
ReplyDeleteThe first substantial post Mike Kekel (aka "The Whirlwind") left on FACTnet castigated me for licking honey from the rim of a jar, like it was some kind of mortal sin
Chief said...
They strain at a gnat just like a bunch of rotten, hypocrite Pharisees. Don posted the perfect scripture highlighting their judgmental attitude. "Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread."
Boy that effectively describes those NTCC Pharisees who love to turn their own man made traditions into transgressible laws. RWD, Olson and Kekel might just as well get rid of the Blood of Christ and grace and readopt the law. But some say, "Chief, they teach the Blood of Christ and grace all the time".
Chief says...
You are right, sure they do but in the process they totally void the Blood and grace with all their man made rules and traditions which they claim we sin and transgress against. Licking honey from a jar? Eating fries and chicken wings with your fingers? Having cat? Talking to a woman or a man you want to date without asking permission? Legalism, plain and simple.
Chief
Vic said..."The first substantial post Mike Kekel (aka "The Whirlwind") left on FACTnet castigated me for licking honey from the rim of a jar, like it was some kind of mortal sin and prima facie evidence of my reprobation."
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Kekel ever admitted he was "The Whirlwind"? The things he intimated about people and the mud that he slung around would make you think it would have been someone on the General Board that has all the latest gossip streaming into them from the 4 corners of the Earth. So because you like honey enough to enjoy it in an unorthodox way or like organic food, then you're looked down upon as some hippy, pot-smoking, freak-a-zoid that would rather eat honey than read his Bible (Bible is compared to honey). Maybe if they ate better in NTCC they wouldn't have so many health problem...
Has anyone ever tried to eat ribs with a fork and knife? You look like an idiot if you do. What about chicken wings? Definitely an idiot. Has anyone ever tried to eat a piece of chicken with a fork and a knife? You really look like an idiot if you do.
So they're going to go to some city and get invited over to someone's house (that's if you go and they meet your approval/cleanliness/loyalty standards) and not eat what they eat or how they eat it? What about "becoming all things to all men..." you bunch of snide, uppity and arrogant Pharisees?
Mike finally did admit, publicly, that he was The Whirlwind, although it took a number of weeks after he was outed to extract that confession.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the can of lysol that was forever on the pulpit.
ReplyDeleteWhen in conference, they would give the place to rwd and he would come to the pulpit and spray the whole area where he was going to be speaking at.
I remember rev. ashmore too, he would be ever so strict on the way he ate.
They tell me dennis was that way too. He would have his wife serve him food but one item on a plate at a time. In other words he would have chicken in one plate and rice on another plate and so on and so forth.
Wow!
The whole uber-clean obsession is a sign of psychological imbalance. People with clinical OCD are often freaked out about the invisible germs they imagine are contaminating everything around them. I still have a mental picture of Rear Wheel holed up in his fortified mansion, kleenex boxes on his feet, swilling Nyquil and barking paranoid commands to his obsequious attendants. It would be great if he got himself a spacesuit, like bubble boy. That would hinder him from getting right up in peoples' faces the way he likes to do.
ReplyDeleteThe only times I would eat fries with a fork was at the fellowship after soul-winning. Even before I had that class ntccers would look at me with contempt for forgetting to use a fork. I also remember the look on the cashier's face as everybody asked for a fork at BK, (she thought we were nuts).
ReplyDeleteI actually looked up eating fries in the Emily Post book of etiquette. Fries are considered finger foods when eaten with other finger foods such as hamburgers!