I'm from New York and I enjoyed the outcome of this World Series. We don't have cable, (because we live too far out in the country, cable is not offered and I don't like satellite) so I didn't get to watch game 6. I did however follow the game on the internet. While in the NTCC I wouldn't have even followed the series because we were taught by our sorry NTCC leaders not to follow sports, period! We adhered to these directives only to find out that Mike Kekel's son had been participating in organized sports such as basketball and football all along. What a slap in the face because I'm sure that RWD knew about it and he and Kekel are both hypocrites. I'm sure other NTCC ministers knew of such information as well. You guys are some sick demented individuals who teach such things while all along knowing about your leader, (Mike Kekel) and the lifestyle that his family leads.
It's not as though there is anything wrong with sport participation but we were simply being obedient to our NTCC leaders when we were taught not to have any involvement with sports. I heard this stuff preached by virtually every NTCC pastor that I ever had numbering 6 pastors. These guys are actually not pastors which is why I always make the "p" lower case, but rather misguided control mongers and hypocrites. Now Kekel says that sports participation is all right and there is nothing wrong with wearing the quote "lascivious" uniforms worn while playing in such sports.
To all six of my NTCC pastors: Thanks you bunch of jerks for deceitfully influencing folks to rob their children of such activities while all along you knew that Kekel's kid wasn't being robbed of anything say no less sports participation.
Oh by the way; I prayed, (like Mike Kekel) and it seemed good to the Lord that I get cable as soon as it is offered in my area. Even though I don't like it, maybe I will get satellite first, that way I can actually watch the next world series game. Hey Mike Kekel says that it "seems good to the Lord" to give him permission to change every NTCC rule that he can think of, so why not me also, especially now that I don't have to answer to those crooks anymore.
Jeff
"it seemed good"
ReplyDeletewhat a profitable..um I'm mean prophetic statement!
I prayed for the Phillies to win. "It seemed good" to the Lord, but the Yankees won anyway! I'm confused. God gave me a sign by having Alex Rodriguez strike out with the bases loaded. So according to ntcc logic, it must have been the devil that allowed NY a win, because my prayers didn't get answered-- and there's no way in you-know-where that God is a Yankees fan! lol
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Acts 15:28 (King James Version):
ReplyDelete28For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Anon!
Sure, Jeff, and what takes the cow is when rwd told the audience in conference, that "he" doesn't tell kekel how to run his family.
ReplyDelete"he doesn't ask me for my opinion on what to do on things and I don't want him to, that is his business. I don't want to get involved in his family life. So he let's his son be in .....ah, you know throwing that ball, playing football, there is nothing wrong with that. There are people finding fault with that in the computer...Just a bunch of fault finders. You can't build a church with people like that." And on and on.
Anon quoted...
ReplyDeleteFor it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things
Jeff said...
And I totally understand and respect the scripture, and I most certainly had considered that scripture as well. The problem is that the phrase, "it seemed good to the Lord" has been totally abused and misused by the NTCC leadership. How in the world would something "seem no good to the Lord" according to RWD but the same thing "seemed good to the Lord" according to MCK?
That is the problem and that is the hypocrisy. What, God can't make up his mind? Did God make a miscalculation while making certain practices "seem" no good to RWD and as a result have to change his previous decision to make the same practices "seem" good to MCK? Are we all stupid and ignorant that we should all blindly buy off on that ridiculous notion? Either God didn't tell RWD any of the stuff in the fist place or God never told Mike Kekel to change the things that he supposedly told RWD, or God simply didn't in any shape form or fashion speak to either one of them which is almost certainly the case.
It's a bunch of garbage and anyone with a free functioning brain could see right through the double standards. But go ahead and keep following RWD and MCK and you are in fact the blind being lead by the blind. Sports or no sports? Lascivious clothing or no lascivious clothing? You can't have it both ways but it is apparent that many NTCC guys want it both ways because it is obviously not about holiness with these crooked politicians. A politician wants it both ways so he or she can appease the masses and the NTCC leadership wants it both ways so masses will continue funding the "corporation".
That's alright, you can put GK through college next by funding his living quarters, tuition, food, transportation, and his DVD collection. You are a sick, irresponsible dude if your family and children are even remotely going without while you are financially taking care of the Davis/Kekel corporation otherwise known as the NTCC INC.
Jeff
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteSure, Jeff, and what takes the cow is when rwd told the audience in conference, that "he" doesn't tell kekel how to run his family.
Jeff said...
Yeah and RWD never had a problem telling everyone else how to handle their family matters. His pastors never had a problem telling everyone how to run their family either. That was 50% of their messages. Don't do this and don't do that and that's fine, but you can't give Kekel a free ride just because he is your son-in-law or a pastor who is senior to you.
If you went to RWD or Olson to speak against Kekel, Olson would say, "what you are doing is dangerous". He would threaten you into keeping your mouth shut or simply run you off from the NTCC and then smear your name. I know this for a fact. It's like the mafia except the NTCC simply runs you off when they think you know too much or if you are simply speaking against their double standards and hypocrisy. Any pastor who has spent any time in the NTCC knows what I'm writing is true. Next time you have a problem with something in the NTCC or RWD or Kekel, just go to Olson and see what happens? He will shut you down and then after that, the NTCC leadership will make you feel as uncomfortable as they possibly can until you just leave the NTCC for good. They are like communists. Suppression of free thought and suppression of free press. They don't want their dirt to be broadcast and Olson is notorious for running folks off who broadcast the NTCC dirt. They will have you on the red carpet in a minute. Go ahead and question them and see what happens. Ah, ha!!! Try to broadcast their dirt and you will be dirt!!!
Jeff
I don't know whether God is a Yankees fan or not but I'm sure that he is a Cowboys fan.
ReplyDeleteAfter all, why do you think that the top on Texas stadium is open?
So he can watch his team on Sunday, of course.
Mark G. said...
ReplyDeleteI don't know whether God is a Yankees fan or not but I'm sure that he is a Cowboys fan.
After all, why do you think that the top on Texas stadium is open?
So he can watch his team on Sunday, of course.
LTravis said...
Preach it brother...
Go Cowboys...It seemed good to build a new stadium...
It seemed good for New York to have a new ball park built as well. It has always seemed good to the ladies for the baseball players to wear tight base ball pants.
ReplyDeleteTo all the frustrated NTCC women: You can go watch GK play football in his tight football pants. Trust me, it's ok. Kekel said that it seemed good to the Lord for GK to wear them. RWD was wrong the whole time and the Lord verified that with Mike Kekel because it did "seem good". Tanya gets a little excitement on the side that all the rest of you ladies have been denied. She gets to watch a whole team of YOUNG STRONG MEN in their tight football pants showing their nice tight rumps. Ha, ha.
Guess who?
Tanya gets a little excitement on the side that all the rest of you ladies have been denied. She gets to watch a whole team of YOUNG STRONG MEN in their tight football pants showing their nice tight rumps. Ha, ha.
ReplyDeleteYou know, I want to say something about that but I'm afraid that it may be deemed as inappropriate and it is not my wish to offend anyone's delicate sensitivities.
and yet if the women in NTCC wanted to get out and exercise for their health they had to wear long as heck skirts that they would TRIP ON. Try running full speed in a long skirt around a track.. unless you hold it up like some lady from the 1800's your gonna trip on it.. Try running on a tred with a long skirt on.. ain't gonna happen. Doing leg presses or any exercises that require the use of your legs...the list goes on. A majority of the women in NTCC are so out of shape and not even close to being healthy because 1. they can't afford to buy the food that is healthy for them to eat (seems to me the healthy food always costs more) 2. all they can do is walk and walking isn't going to make you fit and strong and healthy.
ReplyDeleteAnd about the time I left NTCC .. weight loss fads were in high swing... adkins this, south beach that, etc etc. Ok I'll tell you right now the adkins diet is only good for a while. It is NOT ment to be a diet you follow for life...if you do you end up with major medical problems.. just ask the guy who founded the diet...
1. If your going to go on a diet you are better off seeing a nutritionalist big deal if they charge you.. They know what they are talking about more then a book or a pill does. They will suggest a 100% organic diet and its actually pretty yummy tasting once you get it down.
2. you have to exercise. And that means more then walking. That means using exercise equipment and that means you can't wear a skirt ladies!
A proper diet only works if you are also exercising. Loosing weight doesn't make you healthy if you are NOT exercising. How can you get on a proper diet if your a female in NTCC.. You can't afford the training on how to eat right and what to buy because the training is pricey and the food is expensive (especially if you decided to go organic WHICH IS BEST FOR ANYONE but is a little on the pricey side unless you grow your own fruits and veggies and animals). And if you can't exercise in nothing but a stupid long skirt then your definately not going to get in shape.
To those of you who are in NTCC and you would love to loose weight.. If you succeed in one of those crack pot diets they are only good for so long and then your going to put the weight back on. And if you can't exercise properly then what is the point in going on a diet? Your gonna loose weight and still not be healthy. Get my point yet?
You skinny women.. you can be skinny all you want but if you don't exercise your not healthy. And according to doctors, chasing kids around all day is not considered proper exercise.
"don't kekel how to run his family"
ReplyDeleteHuh? but I thought he did run everybody's family and marriages.
Just ask those countless couples that are NOW child-less because it "seemed good to the Lord" that they didn't' have kids because the Lord wanted them to go into servicemen's homes. Some of these people were robbed of that blessing. Because it is a blessing to have kids, the bible says so. Isn't that running somebody's marriage? Of course it is! So don't give me that garbage of what he doesn't tell his son-in-law to do or not to do.
blovd
I remember the ole snip snip being promoted back in the day. If it seemed good why didn't it start at the top? I always say lead by example. Hey everybody you can do whatever you want just say those words out loud "It seemed good to the Lord"
ReplyDeleteWhen we were still in ntcc I was going to Curve's. There circut workout works. But I would carry my workout cloths there and change. Now I go to a gym and I am already in my workout cloths. And those cloths are not skin tight. Actually quite baggy! I have alot of excess weight from so many years of being sedated to work off. But I am determined to get it all off. My goals is to eat healthier and exercise. Go bike riding with my family or on hikes. Making memories. Without huffy and puffy!
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Good for you CM. You women really did get a bad deal while in the NTCC. It's not like the guys got a good deal but you ladies really got stepped on. If an NTCC husband dies the wife is likely left with nothing and no trades and no marketable skills with no other hope but to find another broke NTCC husband who will also one day leave her destitute.
ReplyDeleteIt is a sad cycle for the ladies in the NTCC. NTCC pastors wives have been wearing pant for decades while exercising. Once again the old double standard. Almost 25 years ago I remember an NTCC pastors wife wearing pants to exercise. I know of one who does now because she told my wife. Didn't you know that the bible says that "a woman can't wear that which pertains to a man, unless she is exercising?" Some but not all of you ladies missed that scripture.
Later CM and the best of success with your exercising. Unfortunately I've seen some NTCC woman that have turned GIGANTIC. It's somewhat inherent due to the NTCC's "control and keep down the women system". It would do many of them good to get a "real" job and help their husbands like the Bible teaches in Proverbs 31. The NTCC doesn't like that chapter. It is contrary to their bogus female domination false doctrine. RWD is a sexist big time and so are many of his pastors. If they had their way Proverbs Chapter 31 wouldn't even exist.
Jeff
Now that we are on the subject of diet,Exercise, etc... I've come to the conclusion that none of the diets out there really work. Oh, don't get me wrong, you will lose weight but the problem with that is usually whenever you go off of a diet the pounds creep back up in a matter of time. You simply have to change your lifestyle and make permanent changes and avoid certain foods if you are going to lose the weight and keep it off.
ReplyDeleteAlso, it's been my observation that eating healthy doesn't relly cost much more than eating junk food.
**We can forgive a Child that is afraid of the dark: The real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. Plato
what the ....? We were constantly told, exhorted, preached at, counseled, talked to, et cetra about how to run our families, whether in the Bible college, serviceman,s home or civilian church. alot(the majority) was unsolicited advice. and NOW rwd wants to say that he doesn't tell anyone how to run their family?!!!???!!?!?!?
ReplyDeletethey do tell you how to run your family.
you know it. I know it. and if you are in ntcc saying it was only certain pastors, stop lying to yourselves. you know it too.
I will say again: it is not the fact that kekel's son actually plays sports and has a great life. good for him. it is that the REST OF US were discouraged (through the fire and brimstone preaching), and outright told not to let our kids get involved in sports, or other clubs and extra-curricular activites, because it would cause them to want the world and thus be lost without God. you all know it's true.
fiona
what kind of treatment did those ladies that gained a good amount of weight get.
ReplyDeleterw's fat joke's. Tell there kids,you will end up looking like your mama. And that was not a compliment. But hey,anyone seen recent picture's of chubby Tanya K. She is getting even fatter. Most likely her depression/anxiety medicine. Most of those "leaders" wives are on some kind of MEDS. To get them through there days, And allow them to sleep at night. Knowing the lives's they have ruined!
Anyone else remember when RWD preached about vanity and women walking a circuit from the parking lot and down the road in Graham. I believe something was said about eating popcorn at that time as well. The humorous thing about my recollection of the event was that Tanya Kekel and Mrs. Giseng were the primary culprits.
ReplyDelete"Anyone else remember when RWD preached about vanity and women walking a circuit from the parking lot and down the road in Graham."
ReplyDeleteI remember that well. This guy has refined psychological torment to a high art. He mocks women for being fat, and then ridicules them for taking action to reduce their weight. His entire focus is keeping those around him off-balance. We never knew what we had to do to avert the "Man of God's" ire, so we walked around on eggshells. It didn't matter; he would always find something to criticize. And then for no apparent reason, he would lavish some phony love on the objects of his scorn. Mike Kekel behaves similarly; he's been an eager understudy for years.
Emotionally shellshocked people are much easier to control and manipulate.