Hopefully this year will bring new opportunities and blessings to all. My family is doing fine while continuing to make forward progress. We went out to dinner this evening with another couple who also used to be in the NTCC. We had a very enjoyable evening, we ate some tasty food, and then we went to a store where I bought my wife a present which she likes very much. It made me happy to give here a nice gift that she really wanted while watching her smile.It truly is better to give than to receive and that is a lesson which I'm sure Mike Kekel and RWD would do well to learn. Unfortunately it is unlikely that will ever happen because they believe that everyone is supposed to give to them, not visa versa. You know; the old take care of the "man of GAWD" trip. I think they've been taken care of for long enough but what do I know? I guess it wouldn't hurt for another thousand sisters or so to go and clean Kekels house don't you think? While they are at it, make sure that if old RWD comes to visit, you pay for all his lodging arrangements and food. How could he possibly remain a multi-millionaire if a bunch of struggling church members don't continue to provide for him every time he comes to visit their church? It would be an absolute shame if they let old RDUB pay for himself!!!
For that matter everyone needs to make sure they financially cover all the overseers when they come to visit. The NTCC INC couldn't possibly have enough money to take care of their own overseers as they travel across the country. Didn't you know that it takes a lot of capital for the continual upkeep of the RWD and Kekel estates? How could there be any money left? Let's not forget about what it costs to raise the son of the NTCC CEO especially when he has to attend a very upscale grade school academy that costs more for yearly tuition than the average college.
I guess I should feel guilty for taking care of my family while watching people like RWD struggle so much because of their extreme sacrifice which is a direct result of them coming to visit your church. Everyone needs to start taking up the offerings now in preparation for the visits from the "men of GAWD".
Jeff
36 comments:
..."I don't eat cake, I eat pie!"
And make sure you fix my coffee just right.
You bought your wife something instead of putting it in the offering!!!!???
I don't know what I was thinking? Do you think there might be some mercy left for me?
Oh me oh my,
Jeff
What! Oh Jeff you are so wrong. You must'nt not being in the conference where it was said that the ladies didn't have anything to say in any affairs of the finances or other things, they were to be a flower, smell nice and to clean and bake the cookies and cakes.
You see what you get when you don't listen: you treat your wife "nice" (sarcastic mood today)
blovd
No Jeff,you should have bought the Man of Gawd some new tie,or watch,ect. Not on your own wife or family!
Then man of Gawd is to be blessed above all else. Didn't you know that.
So spend your free time. Washing his car,or spit shinning his shoes. or running his wife errands. (using up your gas not his). Make his house look splendid.
You are not to think of your own family's Wants or Needs before the Man of Gawd!!!
CM
snd it better be PORK, no beef
Hey Jeff,
You might want to look up folks you may have known in ntcc on Facebook. Look at there profile pictures. And any that are allowed for public viewing.
i was on there just searching around. Wow,the poofs are dying out of style. Now it is more flopped down. Trying to look more stylish with there dead dull hair!!
Especially Crystal Riptka. Is she in or out. WOW! With her straightened hair. That does not look as long as it should be!Allowing folks to visit family. IF IT WILL KEEP THEM HAPPY and stay IN NTCC!!
I find it ironic. I could not tell if folks were in or out of ntcc!! Usually by looking at a few picture's or what there groups on FB are,what music they list,ect. But now there is just about any music listed. And WOW,HOBBIES!! I am not sure if there in or out of ntcc.
What happened to that seperation,HOLINESS!! Saw a few more kids giving the gangster sign in there picture's! Denium all over the place!
Nope ntcc is becoming MAINSTREAM! No matter how they try to look like other churches. They are still evil,underminding,steal money whereever they can.
Oh and get this. Ministers tell Washington. We are leaving ntcc. Oh,you can keep your fellowship card. Come back if you'd like! WHAT IS UP WITH THAT. What happened to,if you don't like it. There is the door POLICY!!
So much for NOT COMPROMISING! So much for being ye seperate sayeth the Lord! So much for Sacrifice to be different,HOLINESS!! It is all out the door.
And guess what folks that are still in ntcc. ARE LOVING IT! one sister told me,We like ntcc the way it is now! They are not leaving. Why would they. Getting a little taste of freedom. And still doing what the THINK God wants!
Watch out folks. When Mike K. thinks he has done enough Damage control. the ole SWITCH A ROONEY!! He will put back,standing in line to get permission,stop making symblols trying to look cool and like the WORLD!!! Oh no more visiting family. There just a bunch of sinners! Denium skirs for the ladies. That is trashy looking. We need to be ready to Meet the Bank president. Right Verna Davis taught that!!
Ntcc is no different then it has ever been. DAMAGE CONTROL is all that it is!!
CM
Any year away from ntcc is HAPPY!
AXP
CM said...
You might want to look up folks you may have known in ntcc on Facebook.
Jeff said...
I've seen a lot of what current NTCC folks post on the internet. It's rather amazing. Thank God for the world wide web. I don't understand why these NTCC folks have this unquenchable desire to post information that proves their hypocrisy and can be openly viewed over the internet. Pictures of them at sporting events the likes of which were preached against, Mayers previously trying to sell sermons online, nudity allowed from friends on their facebooks and spark pages, a pastor's wife with finger nail and toe nail polish being worn (and I saved a picture of it) all kinds of slang ghetto terminology being used by ministers wives and the list goes on and on.
Hardly the kind of stuff you'd expect to find posted by quote "holiness" folks. They are not only not even coming close to living the kind of stuff that they preach but it is often the total opposite. Who would have known that Kekel himself attended a jazz / blue grass festival if it weren't for the world wide web. Oh, I know exactly what you are talking about CM, and it was quite an eye opener when I first started coming across that stuff, but none of it surprises me anymore.
Someone that is truly trying to serve Jesus would do good to leave the NTCC. Who in the world would want to hang around a bunch of folks that don't even come close to living the kind of stuff that they preach? That makes no sense to me other than birds of a feather flock together. CM knowing what I know now, I wouldn't let some of those NTCC hypocrites lead me to a toilet if I was blind. I would rather poop on myself in peace than be lead by some blow hard hypocrite that will poop on me the first chance he gets.
Jeff
Jeff, Jeff, Jeff,
Someone that is truly trying to serve Jesus would do good to leave the NTCC. Who in the world would want to hang around a bunch of folks that don't even come close to living the kind of stuff that they preach? That makes no sense to me other than birds of a feather flock together. CM knowing what I know now, I wouldn't let some of those NTCC hypocrites lead me to a toilet if I was blind. I would rather poop on myself in peace than be lead by some blow hard hypocrite that will poop on me the first chance he gets.
Jeff
January 05, 2010 12:55 AM
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Son, you are one sick puppy, and I am loving it.
Good thing for me I had 'taken care of business' just before reading that, or I might have had an 'emergency' on my hands (so to speak) I was laughing so hard when I read that!!
Once again, Way to go. Your humor is great.
BitG
Yeah that is kind of funny however I want to make sure I'm clear BitG. I truly believe that most if not almost all NTCC ministers start out good. I believe that.
The problem is the NTCC transforms them into jerks and either they become and remain jerks or they have a hard time in the NTCC. Once they've seen all the garbage that takes place in Graham, sooner or later they must leave the NTCC if they really have a conscience.
It may take a long time and it quite often it does, but sooner or later a person with a conscience will in fact leave the NTCC. The one's without a conscience stay and continue to perpetuate the phony bologna stuff that they've seen RWD, Olson and Kekel perpetuate all along.
If a man or a woman has a true conscience, they will eventually get disgusted with the NTCC and I believe that without doubt.
Jeff
If a man or a woman has a true conscience, they will eventually get disgusted with the NTCC and I believe that without doubt.
Right again, Jeff.
God and time and, unfortunately for some, personal pain all contribute to the Exodus from ntcc. Whatever it takes it is worth the cost if one does wake up and stop drinking the ntcc kook-aid (why malign the beverage manufacturer's good name?)...
BitG
My hubby and myself were listing off all the CHANGES that have been going on in ntcc. Within the last five years!
You know the changes that Mike K. is trying to deny. So he can keep those gullable ministers. That want to pretend that nothing has changed.
Ministers and there wive's are taking Secular college classes. Getting degree's. RW told wives it was USELESS for them to even worry about that. If there husband dies before them,no need to worry. Yeah right,tell that to sister Espinoza!!!
Ministers children are now playing on sports teams. Since the upper echelon leaders kids wanted to play sports. You do know it was hidden for sometime. before Mike K. had to do damage control on his blog. As if it was not denied to many kids through generations!
Fingernail polish is now allowed. I was afraid while in,even to use the clear nail hardener. I was sinning,just to want to brush helpful nail hardener on my nails! First came the fake nails,now fingernail polish!!
When I was stuck in the cult. It was ONLY Southern Gospel. Now I see on folks FB page. Country,classical on there music like's. Because Mike K. has allowed it.
Folks still in ntcc. Think oh we got it made now. Look at how much of a REAL LIFE we got. It is only because your master has allowed any of this to happen! Slowly ntcc is becoming watered down,full of COMPROMISE,SINNERS!
I know there is TV on the internet,like Hulu.com. New little TV's that look like PSP's. You know Grant is watching TV. So if it is Ok for Grant. The kids in ntcc have to be watching TV!! First Mike K. said it was alright if members watched TV. That was damage control. Lets look hype and not stuck in the stone age! Next actual TV's will be in the home. If they are not already!
What else has CHANGED in ntcc? folks add some more. I am not remembering everything. There is NO REALITY in ntcc. There is NOTHING special,different about ntcc. So why go to there church? Instead of a church that has MUCH MORE TO OFFER YOUR FAMILY!! Do you want to dress dowdy,men all parting there hair the same,wingtips(are those still being worn) women with there bulky out of style blazers over a long dress,kids being dressed to look like mini's of the adults,those gawd awful scarfs that Tanya love's with her slinky shoes. So she can SHUFFLE into Church. And then can't raise her arms,her cloths are to TIGHT!! Do they even still raise there arms as on Command at the start of ALL service's?
We ALL need to get the message out. ntcc has CHANGED. Make sure you warn folks. Not to ever walk into a ntcc church service. Once there claws are in. Your STUCK!!
CM
A hand symbol usually performed while drunk, in public, in front of a camera by an ugly wannabe scenester chick. It is performed by holding up the middle and index fingers accompanied by some hideous snarled lip or grotesque tongue wagging.
While originating with British folks, and a sign used by gang bangers, and most commonly done by Asian people whenever they get their pictures taken these stupid scenester wannabe hookers seem to think it looks cool or hip.
While in all reality they look dumber than ever and every guy and cool chick is laughing their asses off at them both in person and every time they blind themselves by looking at their pathetic myspace pages.
Hey check out that fat ugly aging emo/punk/rock-a-billy/wannabe scenester whore doing the whole stupid V sign in front of her own camera so she can post pictures on myspace of how cool and stupid she is.
I was curious what this symbol really stood for. Was it some innocent sign for Yo,what's up! NO IT IS NOT!
ntcc is showing off WORLDLY symbols!
CM
Good points CM...what does scenester mean?
scenester
magnetsa person who tries very hard to fit the stereotype of a certain scene. often having to do with a specific genre of music emo.indie.punk.rock. dresses and acts in a prescribed fashion. image focused. vain.
they got all dressed up to hang out with their scenester friends.
I guess you could not look up the definition. So here you go. I googled it.
CM
Guess what folks. I copied this message to Mike k. about the Gangster signs. They are not innocent,folks just having fun symbols that they want folks to believe! It is trying to be like the world. I knew he would not listen to me. He thinks he is right in his OWN EYES!
But just like they think they don't give up on folks. I sent it in hopes he would accept the truth. NTCC IS CHANGING.
This is what I got back from him!
Dear Mrs. Michalik,
Here's hoping you and your family are well, and that you have a happy new year. I do not address you as Mrs. Michalik to imply that you are not a Christian, but in keeping with yet another old and somewhat lost American tradition of respect, I will not use your first name without your approval.
I realize you may not have understood the acronym in my recent response, but someday you might. If I send someone this acronym, it is usually my final reply before eternal silence. Once you get the GSYH, it is over. In other words, you wouldn't get this note, except I wanted to convey one last thing to you; you should take a long hard look at how cynical your words in this email, as you can taste its bitterness.
You even cursed in paragraph 4, and all your emails are nothing but the venting of a volcano seething and bubbling with hate. If you were a Christian, you wouldn't be sending me this constant stream of bile, and it's sad to see. You should try to uplift others, might help you with your SELF problem. Isn't it funny? There's no logic behind your criticism of those who go farther than you in, ostensibly, the same direction.
Obviously, you are the one sweeping behavior under the rug of self-justification, and you can never be the same, after being in NTCC, because the word of God is embedded in your conscience and cries against you daily. I don't care what church you attend, right is still right, and wrong is still wrong. Not only are you wrong, you have tried to negatively affect others with your evil speaking, and this is an abomination to God, to sow discord among the brethren.
Proverbs 6
12 A naughty person, a wicked man, walketh with a froward mouth. 13 He winketh with his eyes, he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth with his fingers; 14 Frowardness is in his heart, he deviseth mischief continually; he sowetha discord. 15 Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly; suddenly shall he be broken without remedy. 16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proudb look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
You people are out, because you reject truth, and I feel sorry for you. Please don't send me any email, and if you continue, I will block you. There will be no further dialogue between you and me.
Thanks, Mr. Kekel
PS: GSYH
Sorry, I'm not reading your trash...you just need to get right with God and clean up your attitude. Take care, GSYH
Has anyone got this GSYH from Mike? Says it is his final singing off. No more communication with that person if he write's this.
He just can't take the heat,the truth. So he has to Dodge,dodge,dodge. Or else everyone would leave. Which they will eventually!
I received the GSYH message from him in response to an email i sent him. Jeff said it means "God send you to Hell"
I am not sure, to me the guy is a coward and doesn't have enough guts to say something straight up!!!
The ironic thing about my view of Kekel is that i can tolerate him a lot more than his hill-billy dirt bag father in law, at least Kekel is trying to take the business to a higher level in some ways-
I would give anything i posses to have 10 minutes with the bitter old man in his youth- i would love to give him a good beating (done in love of course)
I absolutely despise these cretins, they are the scum of the earth!!! stealing money from innocent Christians- teaching lies in hypocrisy, pride, arrogance permeate them, given over to foolish teachings...and on and on..
Oh and the worst is how they are so bold and courageous behind a pulpit when they are tearing someone apart- but come out from behind the pulpit they are feminine, fake and moody...cowards
just a thought for today!
T
kekel IS CONDEMNING HIMSELF in his letter to "Dear Mrs. Michalik,"
kekel quotes the sixth chapter of proverbs to condemn Mrs. Michalik, when he is the one guilty of those sins listed. kekel could be the poster boy for those sins. Let's give specifics:
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
In one class at the B.S. kekel told students to raise their hands "if you were prejudice before you got saved."
Talk about sowing discord among brethren. kekel just does satan's job for him, getting all those racial tension juices flowing.
And kekel lied. He did not raise his hand. But he is a white boy from a Detroit, MI suburb. You know that was a big lie not to raise his hand in answer to that question.
Then kekel called the students who didn't raise their hands liars, "now all you liars who didn't raise your hands..."
Then kekel humiliated this one brother for wearing, "we used to call them f*ggot glasses..."
Might as well spray paint a target on that dude's back because you know when they left the classroom it was open season on him thanks to kekel.
kekel, you hypocrite: GSYH
BitG
Cm
I read your posts. About the whole facebook thing, I'm seeing people on their I haven't seen in a while and I just have to say something.
There are people on there still parading around as if they are holiness christians better than everyone else when I first hand witnessed them abusing their children in Puyallup.
They used to have these retarded soul winning contests that Mike Kekel would put on. A person who formerly lived in my apt complex wanted very badly to impress Kekel. Do you know why she got kicked out of the apt for? She lived in absolute squalor with two boys. I know because I stupidly tried to help clean it up for the boys instead of calling cps.
One day when I was home Sat morning because I was sick of ntcc and refusing to go anymore, I watched this person pull up, drop her two kids off in front of my apt and drive away.
She wanted to win Kekel's soul winning contest so badly she didn't care if there was anyone to watch her own kids. I immediately called the landlord and Mike Kekel. The landlord told me to call cps. Mike Kekel told me not to and that he would talk to her.
If Davis and Olsen and Kekel don't make you want to leave, then the absolutely disgusting reprehensible sick behavior of some of those there will.
When I see their pics on facebook it makes me very angry. They are wolves in sheeps clothing ready to beat and abondon their own children to get kudos for bringing someone to "church".
I could say more but I'm too ticked off right now.
The whole thing makes me so angry. You can be the sickest person doing horrible things and saying "forgive me Jesus" but still judge the non christian who is doing humanitarian work. And have someone like mike kekel backing you up because you're bringing people to church.
It's a sick world. I wish I never would have seen these people's faces now.
We lived in an apt complex where many preachers and their wives and kids lived in Puyallup. The landlord(s) had a lot of pull in ntcc. I don't think many people took me seriously up there.
The woman landlord took every chance she could to insult me and at the same time was very nice to my husband. When I called the landlord about these two boys who had been abandoned in front of my apt and were knocking on my door looking for a place to stay... she also took this as a chance to insult me that I was stupid for letting this woman dupe me into watching her kids.
I repeated very carefully the situation again, that I was not stupid or duped, that I had nothing to do with these people, they had since moved away and two abandoned kids were at my door.
She finally said call cps and Mike Kekel. Unfortunately I called Mike first and he insisted that cps would immediately remove the children from her and that he wanted the chance to talk to her first.
When you are in ntcc and moved far away from any family and friends you had before, it is very isolating and there's the whole hierarchy and control issues and when something like this happens... instead of knowing what the right thing to do was... I was needlessly confused and felt the need to call Mike Kekel.
That's what ntcc does to a person.
Here's hoping you and your family are well, and that you have a happy new year. I do not address you as Mrs. Michalik to imply that you are not a Christian, but in keeping with yet another old and somewhat lost American tradition of respect, I will not use your first name without your approval.
Said by Mike K.
Does anyone know about this information? Is it true? Can you find any links to show this in our history!
If I was to guess. It is just Power trip for MK. He said that to someone else before. Said it was rude to call him by his first name without him first allowing you to do so?? What in the world is this?
Even if this is true. Just shows ANOTHER example of ntcc living in the PAST and not the PRESENT!
Rw loves to preach about women in the 20's-30's. Wearing cloths that covered there entire bodies and no pants for women. Not until WWII. And women worked in factories. They got a taste of not being under a Man's thumb!
Rw has no respect for women anyways! Why else does he bash and use his own wife negatively over the pulpit!
CM
Nicole,
I just read your posts about the woman living in squalor with her two kids and then abandoning them in an attempt to impress mc kekel with her soul-winning.
That is so shocking! And I definitely believe you. ntcc breeds such twisted mentalities.
They don't care what wrong you do as long as you keep their number$ up and don't get caught to the point where you would make the org look bad...
And i can relate to not being able to type it all in one sitting. Some of the stuff we've seen and lived through is so vile it takes time to process it all.
Jeff, thanks for the blog. I know your primary intent is telling true stories of life in the ntcc so other will know what's really going on. But it does also heal people who have lived it to tell their stories and read others stories. THANKS AGAIN!
BitG
BitG,
Thanks for believing me. I was also in the class where Kekel asked "if you were prejudice before you got saved." My husband (who attended there several years before me) told me about a class where he kept saying the word n*gger testing people's reactions and as you put it, increasing tensions.
I've written off and on through the last few years. A LOT of things happended in the 8 years I went and sometimes something happens that jogs your memory and makes you upset again.
It's just one of those things that only people who were there can relate.
I believe GSYH means Go Soak Your Head, although it wouldn't surprise me if they want you to think that while actually intending a cruder meaning. But Mike isn't from Detroit; he's from Flint. He always did have a thing about first names. It's part of an elitist mentality he shares with RW. They do their best to insulate and separate themselves from the hoi polloi, and being mysterious about their names and ages and anything personal about their lives is part of that effort. They can afford to hide behind their money and superiority, while despising the poor and fleecing the flock.
Nicole said,
It's just one of those things that only people who were there can relate.
January 11, 2010 1:09 AM
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Right, Nicole. It's hard for people who have not been in ntcc to understand the
CONTROL
FEAR
BELITTLING
BADGERING
BRUTALITY
I mean, they are looking at the label: New Testament Christian Church. Nothing in that label suggests the cult experience that one encounters once you are in ntcc...
But we who were there can certainly attest to the fact that ntcc is a cult that belittles, badgers, and controls people through mind contolling cult tactics. It is a brutal and ugly environment that has nothing to do with true Christianity, the New Testament, or even Church.
Disgusting.
Thanks for your posts, Nicole. I want to highlight some other thingss you brought up in other posts...
BitG
Nicole said,
A LOT of things happended in the 8 years I went and sometimes something happens that jogs your memory...
Right. Nicole, you just reminded me of something...
BitG said,
I remember difrancesco rebuking a student for looking at him once while he was teaching. He went on and on about how there was no need to be looking around. Students were expected to hang their heads over their notes while he was teaching...
Can anyone say CULT!?!
BitG
CULT CULTURE OF COVER-UP and SELF-PRESERVATION
Nicole said,
When you are in ntcc and moved far away from any family and friends you had before, it is very isolating and there's the whole hierarchy and control issues and when something like this happens... instead of knowing what the right thing to do was... I was needlessly confused and felt the need to call Mike Kekel.
That's what ntcc does to a person.
January 08, 2010 11:27 AM
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BitG said,
I've given lots of thought to this area of ntcc and how they do control people through fear.
IN ntcc YOU ARE TAUGHT:
1) ONLY ntcc IS RIGHT WITH GOD
2) LEAVING ntcc EQUALS LEAVING GOD
3) ntcc 'LEADERS' ARE MEN OF GOD
4) THEREFORE (3) OBEY THEM
5) KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT
6) IF YOU MAKE US LOOK BAD, YOU WILL PAY...
The manner in which these lessons were driven home was brutal. Those who disagreed were publicly humiliated and or driven off.
Those who left were considered forever lost and not to be associated with.
Your choices boil down to strict obedience to all ntcc doctrines or eternal damnation outside of ntcc.
In view of all these things it strikes me that you were placed in quite a batttle.
It is confusing and not your fault.
The ntcc 'leaders' are sick twisted individuals. They twist everything to gain wealth and power.
They say one thing but do another.
They change rules to suit their whim$ and preference$; and they do it all at your expense.
You basically were in a no win situation. To tell or not you were going to suffer either way.
That's why I titled this cult cover-up and self-preservation.
Life in the ntcc is like trying to walk on the edge of a knife. Basically anything you do or don't do will get you into serious trouble. And leaving gets you eternal damnation.
It's an unholy mess.
Glad you overcame their lies and left. De-programming may take time, but God is still real and His love is unconditional.
I know I haven't fully addressed this issue. But some of the points have been made. Time to post.
BitG
"My husband (who attended there several years before me) told me about a class where he kept saying the word n*gger testing people's reactions and as you put it, increasing tensions."
If he said that in front of everyone, what do you think was said about other races behind closed doors?
Those of us who were around in St. Louis know that RW used the word nigger freely and without hesitation back then. One of my friends bought a burgundy suit once, and RW asked him where he got the "nigger suit." He often told "nigger 'jokes'," and also ridiculed other ethnic groups regularly. At some point all this went underground; I guess he got tired of the loss of income produced by alienating these brothers and sisters and running them off.
With that being the case Vic, RWD is a bigger jerk than I had previously though, if that is possible.
Jeff
I was with rdub and a large group (~20 people) in a Mexico, Missouri restaurant during conference one year. One African American couple was with the group; I believe he was recently appointed as a board member.
The prejudice white folks who ran the restaurant did not want to seat or serve this AA couple who had come with the group. KKK is thick in them thar Missouri sticks...
Well, the AA couple deferred and tried to placate the prejudice folks, telling rdub, 'That's fine sir.'...
That didn't surprise me. As a Christian I understand loving your enemy who does not know the love of Christ.
But what I could not and still do not understand was rdub's decision to stay and order a meal.
If that had been my call as leader of a group, serve one and serve all or you ain't gettin' none of my money at all.
Twenty folks at $8 bucks a plate (being conservative too considering board member$ were there and we know how verna likes to put on the ritz)...that's a pretty strong message to folks who would be just swattin' flies if you hadn't gone in their hole-in-the-wall greasy spoon.
And then I'd probably discuss the situation from the pulpit so others would know what kind of people ran that place. I'd rather eat ramen noodles with a brother than fund someone who it trying to hurt my brother.
I still don't get it except to say rdub must be just as prejudice as those he paid to feed him pork pie...
BitG
"I guess he got tired of the loss of income produced by alienating these brothers and sisters and running them off."
Using the N-word no longer proved profitable.
For those that think this was distant history, don't be mistaken. The MOGs(Men 0f God) were still using racist terms in the early 2000s!
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