Originally posted 3/15/2010
Thread #10
Mike Kekel has propagated the notion that his blog was created for the purpose of uplifting and edifying the reader and his blog was not created for the purpose of attacking exntcc people in any way because good old holy Mike and his loyal followers would never do anything like that. Mike and his followers suggest that they have no bitterness towards us exntccers but they regularly claim that we are the bitter, evil haters.
In all actuality, Mike Kekel knows that his so called "edifying, good natured, uplifting blog" as anything but edifying or uplifting. In fact; to take it a step further, Mister holier than thou Mike Kekel, the man who claims to have all good intentions does not have holy intentions at all where his blog is concerned and I am going to prove it.
In all actuality, Mike Kekel knows that his so called "edifying, good natured, uplifting blog" as anything but edifying or uplifting. In fact; to take it a step further, Mister holier than thou Mike Kekel, the man who claims to have all good intentions does not have holy intentions at all where his blog is concerned and I am going to prove it.
Mike Kekel created his blog as a direct equalizer / counter to Brian Pelfrey's blog which is titled "ntccXposed". For that matter, Mike Kekel created his blog as an equalizer to every exNTCC blog to include this one. The only difference between Brian and Mike, is Brian did not try to hide his true intentions when he created his website but Mike did. Brian Pelfrey’s clearly stated intention when he created his website, was to expose the NTCC's crooked practices and that fact is evidenced by not only what he named his website, but also by what he named his Uniform Resource Locator (URL). Just follow me a little longer because I am getting to my point.
The true name Brian Pelfrey gave his Uniform Resource Locator (URL) is displayed when you go to ntccXposed. You have to dig just a little bit to find out what Uniform Resource Locator (URL) name Mike gave to one of the devices attached to his very own blog.
This is the title that Mr. Pelfrey gave his URL: http://www.ntccxposed.com/
This is the title that Mr. Kekel gave his URL which he didn't want people to see: http://exntccrsxposed.blogspot.com/
To summarize; it's quiet obvious that Mike's intentions were not pure at all when he created his blog. He created his blog for the express purpose of exposing people who have left the NTCC by opposing the statements made by people who have left the NTCC. For the record and so no one thinks that I am a hypocrite, I definitely created my blog to highlight the NTCC's double standards, inconsiderate practices, lack of common decency, hypocrisy, and to expose specific people in the NTCC.
Recently Mike wrote this statement on his blog: "We have some in NTCC who regularly keep company with railers and revilers on their blogs, facebooks, forums and websites, places where evil and railing appears continually." Well Mike just judged himself because he is a railer and reviler as is evidenced by his very own blog. Anyone who has an open mind will see right through Mike Kekel and they will realize that his blog is no different than this one. He has recently re-initiated all this thread posting for no other reason than to perform damage control against the blog that was also recently started by Deborah Shunk. In fact, it was the very day after Deb Shunk's blog became public that old Mikey posted a thread entitled "Don't Believe Everything You Read". Imagine that? What a coincidence. And then, (also coincidentally) he created all these new threads on his blog shortly thereafter. WOW, what a coincidence!!! If you believe that was simply circumstantial, I circumstantially have some beach front property to sell you in my back yard. Because Mike has turned so many NTCCers into suckers, (which I used to be also, where the NTCC was concerned) I should be receiving offers on the beach front property that I have for sale by COB tomorrow. Send CASH only to Chief and I'll make sure you get the deed to the land, water included.
205 comments:
1 – 200 of 205 Newer› Newest»He also uses countdracula for the name. There is a dragon for the counter. What is his blog trying to portray?
Kekel did have a smear blog at one time, and I'm pretty sure exntccrsxposed was its name. He posted photos and stuff he had obtained through someone who infiltrated the Yahoo support group. It was up for a few months, but they took it down, probably because it revealed their ugly pit-bull nature. I imaging Kekel used the code from that site to model the new one, and the old name is still embedded there.
You miss the whole point here jeff, you see, everything that they do is by the holy ghost and that is it.
I'm been sarcastic with you but you get my point.
The site Vic is referencing is exactly called:
Ex-NTCC'ers eXposed
It reads like a national enquirer type scandal rag.
Here is a link that reaches into this now protected, and now private site, to the 'most' racy of NTCC's 'proof' pictures...be warned, this picture is not for the very old, very young, women who are pregnant, nursing, for the otherwise poor in health, or practicing Christians concerned about there standing with God, the purity of their mind, and soul:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4141/3292/320/Linda%27s%20Dance.jpg
As you will agree, more damning proof, of all the assertions, coming from NTCC.
pdq
Maybe Kekel should address why Davis always screams he hasn't sinned since he has been saved? Just wondering since I heard him say it over 100 times while in NTCC. And I have this nice little Scripture verse here.....
1 John 1:8 (KJV) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 1:8 (NIV) If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
"The site Vic is referencing is exactly called:
Ex-NTCC'ers eXposed
It reads like a national enquirer type scandal rag."
Is more proof of the fact that Mike's blog is just damage control for public consumption necessary? While he's over there playing Pastor FeelGood, he simultaneously has another secret site devoted to dishing up what they regard as dirt on those who are onto the scam that is NTCC. I'm sure it's password protected so no one can refute whatever lies he propounds there. Apparently, only the most trusted koolaid drinkers are allowed in.
The Dr. Kekel/Mr. Hyde revue is in full swing.
When I follow the link to the blog, I get a message saying it doesn't exist. Did he take it down, or did I get the link wrong?
JM
Brother Jeff,
Wow Kekel disabled this blog quick:
Blog not found
Sorry, the blog you were looking for does not exist. However, the name exntccrsxposed is available to register!
Register exntccrsxposed
MLJ
MLJ said...
Sorry, the blog you were looking for does not exist. However, the name exntccrsxposed is available to register!
Jeff said...
That's right, it doesn't exist as an active URL but the name that he gave his device; "exntccrsxposed" is still there because I just checked. The point I'm making is that he may have named his blog; "Michael C Kekels blog" for everyone to see but the URL name that he gave the device connected to his blog is "exntccrsxposed". It is not active; it is just a name, but it shows Mikes true intent.
Mike Kekel is the one who typed "exntccrsxposed" there. The device that I'm referring to is one that Mike Kekel connected to his blog. Look at the first response to this thread and you will figure it out. Anonymous made a good observation.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4141/3292/320/Linda%27s%20Dance.jpg
The above link does work. I just tried it again. I tried it before I posted this before. Past it into your browser and hit enter.
Again, this picture is not for the faint of heart, or for anyone who doesn't want to know the truth about those persecuting NTCC.
pdq
pdq:
That was funny. LOL.
Jeff.
Well, I guess they have photographic evidence of the reprobation of those who depart NTCC. Let that shocking photo be a warning to you all!
BTW, I was at that little gathering; it might be a sliver of my face on the left in the photo. We had an "unconference" up in Maine, where we engaged in such lewd behavior as card playing and movie watching (oops, I guess that's approved now...). And Linda did here Elaine Bennis impersonation, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xi4O1yi6b0
Vic said…
“And Linda did here Elaine Bennis impersonation”
*******************
Thanks for the laugh Vic I needed that.
L Travis
Vic:
She was totally uncoordinated. What a reprobate. She must have learned that dance from the brothers at conference. LOL.
Jeff.
Bro Jeff,
I told my daughter at the tender age of 4 that when she turns 16, I am going to buy her a diamond ring.
She really likes that idea, and I thought having a big ring on her finger would keep the over 24 Kekel wolves at bay!!
I also told her she will only marry a millionaire. Her future groom will give me 500K as a ("gift") deposit. I want to do the Davis - Kekel gift thing, but in reverse.
If the marriage does not work out, my daughter is well to do.
MLJ
Hey Bro Jeff,
You have over 3,000 hits on your counter! You should pass the NTCC website hits in a month.
MLJ
MLJ said...
She really likes that idea, and I thought having a big ring on her finger would keep the over 24 Kekel wolves at bay!!
You have over 3,000 hits on your counter! You should pass the NTCC website hits in a month.
Jeff said...
LOL. How's a brother I supposed to keep serious and hard on the trail after these NTCC folks with you making cracks like that? That was funny man. I appreciate the humor. I hope my daughter marries a millionaire also so I can be like Mike. I want to be like Mike. Ha, ha, ha. Not really. I wouldn't mind having his money but not at the expense of a bunch of young broke GI's that my organization has figured out how to use.
Yep; 3000 hits and counting. You and I probably collectively clicked about 300 of them. LOL.
Hey; someone from China and Australia was on here today. I thought that was neat.
Talk to you later,
Jeff
Yeah, well China is just getting some pointers from ntcc on how to oppress people. :)
Your blog keeps getting better and better! Your older articles are not as good as newer ones you have a lot more creativity and originality now keep it up!
Anonymous said...
Bro Jeff,
I told my daughter at the tender age of 4 that when she turns 16, I am going to buy her a diamond ring.
She really likes that idea, and I thought having a big ring on her finger would keep the over 24 Kekel wolves at bay!!
I also told her she will only marry a millionaire. Her future groom will give me 500K as a ("gift") deposit. I want to do the Davis - Kekel gift thing, but in reverse.
If the marriage does not work out, my daughter is well to do.
MLJ
April 01, 2009 11:10 AM
$$$$
That was some SERIOUSLY FUNNY STUFF!
And really, folks, if someone is under the age of forty, try keeping the age-difference gap for spouses down to 2 or 3 years. AND NO MINORS!!! There's a reason those laws exist! :-D
BitG
http://exntccrsxposed.blogspot.com/
Hey Jeff,
I clicked on that URL...hilarious!
Anon!
mck said...
revile |riˈvīl| verb (I Cor. 6:10)
“criticize in an abusive or angrily insulting manner.”
"So the bible tells us to avoid people who bellow, and jest, and revile and rail upon others in an angry, insulting manner persistently, even if it is in protest."
LTravis said…
Well spoken and that's EXACTLY why I do not attend the ntcc PERIOD.
Big screen TV's,necklace's,baggy pants are now allowed within the ntcc ranks. Seen it myself.
Denium skirts are allowed. Guess they want to look like the Penticostle's. Which is what rw davis loved to share. That if we wore denium skirts and tennis shoes. We would be looking like the Penticostle's!
CM
NOTHING SCREAMS 'CULT' LIKE CENSORING WHAT PEOPLE READ....
Recently Mike wrote this statement on his blog: "We have some in NTCC who regularly keep company with railers and revilers on their blogs, facebooks, forums and websites, places where evil and railing appears continually." --mikey kekel railing on the folks who read his blog AND the non-ntcc blogs....
Sassy says,
(1)
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S ON THE NON-ntcc BLOGS UNLESS
YOU YOURSELF
"REGULARLY KEEP COMPANY WITH" THEM
YOU FORK-TONGUED HYPOCRITE!?!
(READ MATTHEW 23 AND LEARN HOW JESUS SPOKE TO THE HYPOCRITES.)
WAS JESUS RAILING OR REVILING?
JESUS SPOKE THE TRUTH BECAUSE HE IS THE TRUTH.
(2)
WHAT DELUSION OF GRANDEUR CAUSES YOU mikey TO THINK YOU HAVE ANY BUSINESS EVEN KNOWING WHAT OTHERS READ, MUCH LESS RAILING ON THEM AND REVILING THEM FOR
SEEKING THE TRUTH!
(3)
ONCE AGAIN THESE ntcc HYPOCRITES HAVE DONE OUR WORK FOR US, PROVING TO ALL WHAT EVIL, MALICIOUS, DOUBLE-STANDARD, FORK-TONGUED-SNAKES-&-VIPERS, AND HYPOCRITES THEY ARE.
THANKS AGAIN, mUck.
GSYH WRIGHT BACK AT YA!
Angela
NOTHING SCREAMS 'CULT'-2-LIKE A MOLE IN A SUPPORT GROUP....
(1)
ntcc SO ABUSIVE THAT FORMER MEMBERS FELT THEY NEEDED TO FORM A SUPPORT GROUP. THAT ALONE TELLS YOU HOW ABUSIVE AND BAD ntcc IS.
(2)
THE ABUSIVE CONTROL FREAKS RUNNING ntcc INFILTRATED THIS FORMER MEMBERS' SUPPORT GROUP. HOW CREEPY IS THAT?
(3)
THE ntcc THEN USED THE INFORMATION GATHERED BY THEIR LYING MOLE, (HAD TO BE A LIAR TO POSE AS AN EX-ntcc MEMBER WHILE STILL IN ntcc) TO TRY AND DEFAME FORMER ntcc MEMBERS WHO WERE LEGITIMATE MEMBERS OF THIS SUPPORT GROUP THEY STARTED TO HEAL FROM THEIR ABUSIVE CULTIC EXPERIENCE THAT THEY SUFFERED WHILE IN ntcc.
(4)
PURPOSELY GATHERING INFORMATION ON PEOPLE WHO LEAVE YOUR 'CHURCH' (READ CULT) FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO DEFAME THEM IS, WELL,
CULTISH, CREEPY, ILLEGAL?
DEFINITELY NOT CHRIST-LIKE!
(5) ntcc = Not True Christians Cult
Angela
BEING WARNED OF GOD IN A DREAM, PART 2...
Now it strikes me, that God records two different people warning the priest Eli that God would judge his house because his sons were vile and Eli restrained them not.
Vic has recently posted a comment about the ntcc and Eli being a good analogy....
roger and others in ntcc, know of a certainty that if someone else has come to roger and proclaimed this same message of judgment, the Word Of The Lord is speaking to you.
Angela
Sandy, remember the "Your Heavenly Father Loves You" message--it is still true. God still speaks to His children / messengers. If you're still there FLEE!!!!
BEING WARNED OF GOD--YOUR MOUNTAIN IS GONNA BLOW...
(1)
In 1993 at a fellowship meeting in Pembroke, Kentucky at the servicemens' home for FT. CAMPBELL, KY, my husband Eric James Barden stood up to testify.
During his testimony he said,
SOME DAY YOUR MOUNTAIN IS GOING TO BLOW.
Up on the platform, r.w. davis got all excited and grabbed a pen and paper to wright (misspelled on purpose) that down. rdub stood up and picked up on that statement.
rahj, with the dreams and all, I gotta tell ya, I believe YOUR mountain is gonna blow.
(2)
So, it doesn't surprise me that recently double-D (Darwin Durek) said something similar in his post that later he took down.
rahj, with the dreams and all, I gotta tell ya, I believe YOUR mountain is gonna blow.
YOUR MOUNTAIN IS GONNA BLOW.
I'm utterly confused - the exntccers site seems to be a joke about ntcc. I'm disappointed about the Mom Gaylord picture though - that woman was nothing but sweet and genuine. She helped my mother out when noone else would.
Mike Kekel should know I have connections with people in ntcc and I see what they say.
I see the woman who has two children who Mike Kekel himself told me not to report her to child protective services praising God about the serviceman's home in Guam.
This woman was evicted from the Merz apt because of the absolute filth she lived in. She wanted to win Mike Kekel's soul winning contest so bad she pulled up in front of my apt one day without speaking to me and dropped her kids off in the street and drove away.
They came to my door looking for a place to stay and Mike said, no don't report her, they'll take the kids away.
I wish I would have called because now all I see is her bragging about graduating from Ntcc's seminary with one pic of her kids all dressed up and staged in front of the Graham church (they look super stressed out to me).
Christianity says the one unforgivable sin is blasphemy of the Holy Ghost. Well in my book it is child abuse. God can get over it. Kids can't.
I'm going to censor myself and stop here.
Nicole,
Glad to see you're back. Sorry you went through that horrible situation with those poor kids. And I'm glad you've posted this follow-up story.
I think this story alone shows the depth of control ntcc expects to have over the lives of its members.
It shows how ntcc places its expectations first regardless of what God, common sense, and human decency would expect.
God wants a mom to be a mom. That takes time.
You can be sure tanya kekel wasn't out soulwinning keeping that same hectic schedule that the ntcc requires of its members.
But its different for the kekel and davis families....
I remember sitting in r.w. davis's required classes but tanya wasn't there. She was home with grant-o.
Special privileges.
Now this makes one angry to read of such things.
But God hasn't missed a beat.
He knows everything including the heart-- the real gut-level motive for every word and action.
He is not blind.
He is just patient.
"BEWARE THE FURY OF A PATIENT MAN!"--John Dryden
God won't forget any of the ntcc's wicked practices.
Angela
"I'm utterly confused - the exntccers site seems to be a joke about ntcc."
Apparently, Mike let it lapse and someone less sympathetic to NTCC picked it up. I happen to know that this person has the highest regard for Mom Gaylord; the photo should not be construed as being critical of her in any way.
Does anyone know who the two fellas are in the NTTCSC Preparing Youth with Sleuth in Og Mandino Power photo? Are they in or ex?
I just went over and looked at ntcc's website, and saw the page about camp. Restful? I would say the opposite - getting up early in the morning to get ready for church, staying up late after church for fellowship... it always seemed to be go-go-go when I was there, like there was never enough time in the day. No thanks, I'll stay home and curl up with a good book or lounge about with a close friend.
Ralph St. Clair, Richard Blumenthal, and Ray Salvador.
Blogger tagskie said...
hi.. just dropping by here... have a nice day!
Jeff your spam finger is getting a little rusty lol!
I am very thankful that among all the things you have going on that you make time to blog. Thank you sir... Your the best sir. Puke...
Anonymous said...
Jeff your spam finger is getting a little rusty lol!
Jeff said...
Just took care of it. Deleted. I enjoyed the humor.
Thanks,
Jeff
Routine schedule while at the wonderful,restful conference. That is meant to rejuvinate folks souls.
I would get up at Six AM. Jump in the shower. Blow dry the hair I had that was down to my butt and most of that was Dead hair!
Stick some hot rollers in,BURN STICKS> That is what they do to the ladies hair. BURN THERE HAIR!
By then hubby is up. We usually brought our child with us. We could not afford a trip home,or pay someone in Washington to watch our child. Thankfully our child was over four years old. Or else you had to rush getting ready. Still make time to drop your child off at the roating babysitter's. Which usually was at a hotel room. Wow,did our kids have alot to do for the four-five hours that we were gone.
Don't remember enjoying a cup of coffee,or do some bible reading in the AM! RUSH-RUSH-RUSH! To do what?
Arrive at the campground. Sit on those gawd-awful metal chairs. For three-four-five hours. Make sure our child stays enertained while staying put for that entire time!
then sit back and wait to get BASHED! PUT DOWN,Butt of rw davis's joke's. What did he actually share that was uplifting,enlightening...NOTHING AT ALL!
Then when altar call was made. You were soo relieved. Could actaully stand up and leave. One thing I am thankful for. We never stayed on the campground. community showers,and bring your own toiliet paper bathrooms. Nah,we made sure we could afford a decent hotel,condo..
Oh the folks that had kids still in those hotel rooms. With a sister babysitter. You had better RUSH back to that hotel room. To grab up your kid. Or else she would be huffing and puffing,that you took to long. Rush out the door,grab your hubby,and drive down the long dirt road. Just to get to paved road and then drive alot more to find a place to eat. Eat,pretend to fellowship. EX,asking how each other's work is doing!
No conference out in the STICKS is the complete opposite of rest!!
CM
This whole Applebee's Thing really shows the hypocrisy in ntcc.
The fact is davis, kekel and their kohorts have
SUPER APOSTLE STATUS
complete with cape that we call
THE ROBE OF RELIGION
So kekel says it's ok to go to Applebee's on a Tuesday afternoon, but not on a Friday night?
How about the Grand Ol' Opry in Nashville, Tennessee, with its rotating bar platform and half-nude cliff divers?
The gandys, gesangs, and other ntcc preachers were there on the Fourth of July after the ntcc 'fellowship' meeting in Nashville. I was there too with my husband Eric Barden.
You see, SUPER APOSTLE STATUS IS TRANSFERABLE amoungst the ntcc
'in' crowd.
So its ok to go to a place at night serving alcohol--IF you are 'in'; otherwise IT IS SIN!
koz you don't have
SUPER APOSTLE STATUS
Double standard hypocrites!
If any lowly B.S. student, poor precher, or mere member had been 'caught' doing this without the Grand High Poobah's approval, he would have been pulpit fodder.
kekel and his kohorts would have from the pulpit shredded this guy, calling him a reprobate who
'JUST WANTED SIN.'
Angela
P.S.
You know, Elliot, maybe it was just the Holy Ghost suggesting that you take Sandy to a movie all those times you wanted to stop and see one.
Remember telling Eric to take time to be with his wife? Maybe instead of pitchforking that to EJB you should have first applied it to your own life.
Not that I minded. It was good and sound advice. And because of it one Sunday I got to sit with E in the truck and enjoy the view of Mt. Ranier from 224th. That was the day and time that I prayed for the kekel's to have a mountian view home. Hmmn.
ntcc has already robbed you of one wife and the opportunity to raise your own son only to reverse itself on every major teaching that probably caused your first wife to leave.
Why not be honest with yourself.
ntcc has double standards and hypocrisy.
Why not break free and be you?
Don't you trust God enough to lead you without some other man doing all your thinking for you?
You don't need ntcc.
They need you.
(But only if you're a good little whipping boy....)
Eli, listen to Angela. We don't hate you. We miss you. I know that deep down, there's a real brother there, even if he's been buried under tons of NTCC garbage for many years.
These manipulators aren't your friends. Look at what they've done to you. You know Angie's right; you have been used unmercifully as RW's whipping boy. You've done more for them than Mike and the rest of those board member phonies, but it doesn't get you anywhere because they know that they can use and abuse you with impunity.
I'll rejoice with you the day you decide to put an end to all that, and there will be no hard feelings.
Vic, You said it! ... Ange
I see no place to really post this. So here goes!
Me and my family were sitting in our livingroom watching the Opening ceremony of the Olympic's. Enjoying the enertaining,inspiring moments. Very enriching. Since leaving ntcc have had many of these kids of moments. Memory making moments. Guess what folks still stuck in TV. It is not a TIME ROBBER,Nor is it the DEVILVISION!Favorite movie of my son's,Wizard of OZ! My daughter love's,Orphan Annie!
They watch new stuff that we approve of. ntcc just wants to demonize tv. Keep folks secluded,not in touch with socety. Keep them busy,boring,dull. Make LAME jokes and pretend to laugh. I was there,I know most of what is considered funny in ntcc. MOST folks will see as LAME and BORING!
Mike K. has condoned Too Much family time. But he gets plenty of it!
All the family time we have gotten since leaving ntcc has enriched our live's.
Take a step inside a ntcc church,or join a conversation with a few folks that only talk to folks inside ntcc,watch no TV,have limited outside experience's. There conversations are VERY limited! Now I see why the ladies usually talk about coupons,latest dress sale. That is all they GOT!
My life now is so much more broader,fuller,enteresting. As as my husbands and children's live's!
I read on Mike's blog a lady tried to EXCUSE the limited childhood of children in ntcc's past! Saying,parents can be creative. We made sure our kids had as much of a childhood in ntcc. But now guess what,my kids now have what Grant gets! No,not a 20,000 prudish education. Not what I want for my kids. Just more SECLUSION!
Being creative is just a nice way of saying,we had nothing. So for our kids to have something we had to find loophope's,away around the stupid rule's.
I sat in a class where folks asked permission to take there kids to the Circus. Was too SCARED to just take them on our own decision making!
Folks are always quaking in there wingtips,highheels. To think on there own. Condition to let the leaders do it for us.
Thankgoodness we can no decide what we think our kids can see,listen to,friends to be around,cloths they wear. Not waiting for Little treats to be tossed to us by the leaders of ntcc.
Those little treats they are getting now. Will wait and see if they stay around. Or they have a string attached and are YANKED back in!
CM
jeff put this on the front page.
i would suggest that everyone download a copy of this exntccerexposed site and it's pages.
here is how to do it.
go to
www.google.com
type in exntccrsxposed.
instead of clicking on the actual link, click on the word
"cached" and it will be there.
then choose under the options... file and save webpage as and it will save everything.
dth
the word below will bring the pages right up. just copy and paste into the google search box.
exntccexposed
and if save webpage doesn't work, you can still copy and paste it manually and save it to your computer.
any photos you might have to right click on and choose save photo as.
dth
I've followed your directions and I'm not sure what site you're referencing.
You may want to open the site that you're referencing and then copy the web address or URL from the from the address bar and paste it here. I could be wrong but if I'm confused about what website you are talking about I would imagine others are also.
Jeff
Dittos to what Jeff said.
sorry about the confusion.
Kekel or whomever removed the blog you are talking about that was started about exntcc'ers.
I am saying that the information that was there can be recovered. But you either have to
1. Save the web page
Or
2. Copy the text and save the pictures (by right clicking)
I am just saying that the information that was posted on this blog is recoverable.
Just follow these steps.
1. Enter exntccexposed into the search box at www.google.com
2. do not click on the actual web page title instead click on the word "cached" and you will be able to see the information that was deleted.
Thanks dth.
Didn't get the save web page option, but cutting, pasting, and save photo as all worked.
Roger. I was hoping what you were sharing was a way to recover what was originally posted on the "original" (pre-double-D) blog.
Correction: photon vice double-d.
Hi chief: Allow me to use this venue to write a letter that has been burning within me for some days now: Open letter to mck:
Dear sir:
It has come to my attention that some of us who use facebook have been accused of having people that to you are not deemed "pure"
I would like to answer to this accusation with some words I read in the book of Job:" should not the multitudes of words be answered?" Let God be the judge between you and me if what I say here is false. I'm willing to sacrifice husband, family,and friendships. Come and answer to this post and tell me in what way I am wrong. Don't I have the same Holy Ghost as you?I'm willing to take the fall but are you? After all we are in the same boat. If your father-in-law can take all those thing away from me, what makes you think that at the click of his finger he won't tell ms.t.k. to forsake you once you become too much of a liability to the org? She would do it in a heart beat.
Don't you trust me that I have enough God to see who wants to harm me? I guess not. Why is it that only you or the board members can have correspondence with those that have left? Medina has corresponded with you wife. Have you told your wife not to have anything to do with her? I think not. Just because I allow these people to see my page doesn't mean I have any contact with them.
All I want to say is don't come and use your ntcc authority and come and tread on me.
Respectfully yours,
apw
Here's a little tidbit of trivia for those who are interested.
Recently the MichaelCKekel blog added a link to the D Devonshire blog in addition to linking it in the NTCC goodnews blog as the World missions information source. D Devonshire has a News article in that blog also.
If you take a glance at the D Devonshire blog archives, you can see 2 posts for 2010, 9 posts for 2009, 1 post for all of 2008, 2 posts for all of 2007, and 169 posts for 2006. He stopped posting after the 2006 November Asian conference and posted a short note to that effect in Nov of 2006.
Word was that RW Davis really ripped him a new one and jacked him up one side and down the other in that Asian conference for maintaining a blog and posting on the internet when he was a missionary.
Now, upon his return and becoming a Pastor in St Louis, his blog is suddenly linked to MCK's blog and is promoted as the Source for World missions info on the Philippines.
How much info could have been shared about the "glorious work of God" over the last 3 years when he was there, and when the experiences were fresh in his mind? How much more prayer and support could have been offered by the hundreds of readers he had before RW blasted him back into the 1960's missionary environment of total isolation from the "civilized world" ?
It seems MCK is not on the same wavelength as RW concerning the internet and online information.
Things that make you wonder......
I used to corresponde back and forth with Tanya and sister Kinson after leaving ntcc. But after discovering they were ONLY chatting with me. To use it as ammunition to report back to rw or mk. tattle tale on me and my family. I don't think so. So I ended all phone calls,e-mails to Tanya. All she could talk about was gushing about the BS,or great conference. She had NOTHING else to talk about. Because she is BRAIN DEAD! Like most women in ntcc.
God is Good,what a great conference we had,God is on the move,God is winning,on and on and on! NOTHING else comes out of there mouths. Because there Brain Washed,Brain Dead!
One sister just told me. She is not reading these blogs or care's about what others have gone through at the hands of her great leaders. As long as she is right with God. That is all that matters. can anyone say HYPOCRITE!!
CM
One sister just told me. She is not reading these blogs or care's about what others have gone through at the hands of her great leaders. As long as she is right with God. That is all that matters.--CM
IF A MAN SAY, I LOVE GOD, AND HATETH HIS BROTHER, HE IS A LIAR:
FOR HE THAT LOVETH NOT HIS BROTHER WHOM HE HATH SEEN, HOW CAN HE LOVE GOD WHOM HE HATH NOT SEEN: from I_John 4v20.
BUT WHOSO HATH THIS WORLD'S GOOD, AND SEETH HIS BROTHER HAVE NEED, AND SHUTTETH UP HIS BOWELS 'OF COMPASSION' FROM HIM, HOW DWELLETH THE LOVE OF GOD IN HIM:
MY LITTLE CHILDREN, LET US NOT LOVE IN WORD, NEITHER IN TONGUE; BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH. I_JOHN 3V17&18
Here's a hint for that 'sister' straight from the Bible:
You can't "be right with God" and "not care" about what happens to others, especially other Christians.
Angela
Doesn't just common sense tell you that if you say you are a Christian you should be like Jesus?
Would Jesus say, I don't care about what others have gone through as long as I am right with God?
If He said that nobody would go to heaven.
Jesus cares very much about "what others have gone through". Don't lie to yourself. You can't be a Christian and not care. Not possible. You either care OR you are not right with God. You can't have it both ways.
very very simple
Time to grow up boys and girls. Stop believing the lies and lines kekel is spoon-feeding you from the pulpit so you have an easy answer to give people.
Time to wake up and see the world the way it really it is. It is ugly; and the world needs you to stop wasting your time in that cult you are in and get out there and lift up Jesus, not lift up some men, some church, some "organization"...
Angela
Anonymous said..."Word was that RW Davis really ripped him a new one and jacked him up one side and down the other in that Asian conference for maintaining a blog and posting on the internet when he was a missionary."
Deborah and I were there for this Asian conference, and can attest to the truth of what Anonymous shares in this sited instance.
At it's onset Rev. Devonshire's Blog was extremely well written and informative. It wasn't the usual "We are winning!" rose-colored-glasses pap that is de rigueur in everything else NTCC and NTCCers offer online.
It was a true Missionary Blog. We learned about the Philippine culture as it revealed itself to him, in addition to his personal Missionary journey. There was much meat.
We were sorry to see its demise. But in defense of Rev. Devonshire, what else could he do after Pastor Davis shut him down?
Gregory
Anonymous said..."It seems MCK is not on the same wavelength as RW concerning the internet and online information."
Pastor Davis often emphatically states, "All I do is by the Holy Ghost!" and "I have never missed God" in addition to "I can't remember the last time I sinned!"
Gregory
Pastor Davis often emphatically states, ... BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!!
If everything that he does is by the holy ghost then why is devonshire's wife still married to her husband. To me it seems that mr. devonshire is not in the will of god because rwd told us all in the conference that once a woman leaves she is going to leave again to not go back to her or him.
Why all this love towards the devonshires now. Because devonshire can bring people in, why take run him out of the org. He is a good soulwinner and can fill that huge church in st. louis.
BEING WARNED OF GOD IN A DREAM, Part 1...
Somehow the original post of this comment did not make or stay on the blog. I probably lost the innernet connection and it didn't post but I didn't realize it. But IT KEEPS COMING UP AGAIN so here it is again
Being Warned of God in a Dream
I had a dream once, when my husband and I were living in a certain area.
In my dream I was at my parents' house but it was my home (dreams are weird). I was looking out the screen door but it was rusty. My husband showed up outside that door and stabbed me through the screen, murdering me. I woke up.
Obviously that never happened TO ME.
BUT three or four days after my dream a woman in that certain area was murdered exactly like the dream - her husband stabbed her through the screen door, killing her.
Years later I had another dream:
In this dream I was walking toward r.w. davis. He was near the front of a church on the left side near the first pew -- like where verna used to sit in the old Graham chapel with the globe on the end of the building.
As I was walking up the aisle toward him, the presence of God came down so strongly that I had to kneel. I did not want to kneel in r.w.'s presence, but I did because the presence of God was so strong.
It was like Ezekiel said, how he went in the heat of his spirit because the hand of the Lord was upon him.
Like that. Had to.
So I'm on my knees but forcefully pointing my finger at r.w. and PROCLAIMING:
THE LORD IS GOING TO JUDGE YOU!
YOU
WICKED
SINFUL
EVIL
MAN!
I woke up still speaking out those words / that proclamation!
I must say, in view of the previous dream experience, and with the power of that dream,
r.w. davis, God is warning you.
If someone else actually delivered that message to you in person, then this is to confirm that it was
OF THE LORD.
You've been warned.
Angela
Angela said...
BEING WARNED OF GOD IN A DREAM, PART 2...
Now it strikes me, that God records two different people warning the priest Eli that God would judge his house because his sons were vile and Eli restrained them not.
Vic has recently posted a comment about the ntcc and Eli being a good analogy....
roger and others in ntcc, know of a certainty that if someone else has come to roger and proclaimed this same message of judgment, the Word Of The Lord is speaking to you.
Angela
Sandy, remember the "Your Heavenly Father Loves You" message--it is still true. God still speaks to His children / messengers. If you're still there FLEE!!!!
February 05, 2010 1:55 AM
reposted to go with part 1
Angela
Ange,
NTCC has been warned repeatedly, but somehow it gets misinterpreted and directed towards church members. The split was a huge warning, brought on by the churches own compromise. Has there been a sweeping revival or repentance?
It reminds of the Gospels when Jesus had risen from the dead. It was a few faithful women who witnessed He had risen. Then men(apostles) had scattered.
Quite often, a woman's intuition sounds alarm bells when something is not right in the church. I know there are some women on the board who do not agree with what is going on. Yet they are silenced by their husband's "ministry".
Look up the word wisdom in the Bible. It is a feminine noun.
Anon!
SOPHIA is wisdom and a BEAUTIFUL NAME at that ...
A good name...Proverbs
Anon! I know what you are saying!
It's called PITCHFORKING in ntcc.
Psychologists call it PROJECTION.
Whatever you call it, ntcc, esp. davis, has been redirecting the message God's trying to give to him or ntcc 'leaders' for too long. God won't wait forever.
Longsuffering does not mean eternally suffering them to continue in their sinful ways!
And I'm glad to be free of their blood. It is a blood warning whether they receive it or not.
Ange
Mary Magdalene knew what the apostles refused to see or hear.
"It reminds of the Gospels when Jesus had risen from the dead. It was a few faithful women who witnessed He had risen. Then men(apostles) had scattered." -- Anon!
Even before that, Mary Magdalene KNEW that Jesus was going to die.
She brought the ointment and anointed Him for His burial, weeping at His feet, kissing His feet, wiping His feet with her hair - so tender.
I love her love for the Lord. She knew what others would think and say, how they would accuse her...
But that did not stop her from demonstrating her complete abandoned love for the Lord.
And God gave her a memorial too. It's still being told in all four gospels and wherever the gospel is preached!
No wonder Christ revealed Himself to her PRIOR to the ascension (touch Me not) - that was an honor - She had not been afraid to honor Him before men; He would honor her also before men for ages and eternity to come.
Jesus' life and death and time in hell and resurrection and appearing to disciples and ascension are all meaningless to the likes of ntcc who want works to justify. Their faith is in vain. They negate the Word of God with their doctrines of men.
But God is the I AM. He still is what He says. He still saves by grace through faith not of works.
"NTCC has been warned repeatedly, but somehow it gets misinterpreted and directed towards church members."
I was in a conference at the campground around 1994 when Ashmore preached a message about the house of Eli that had RW's name written all over it. RW was too busy sitting on his platform throne and shuffling around with some notes to pay attention to what he was saying, but since that day I've wondered when their Ichabod moment will come.
He talked about how something could outwardly resemble a well-oiled machine and yet be on the brink of permanent failure. How that if a man let his eyes grow dim to where he could no longer fulfill God's call, that another would be raised up in his place. Of course everyone was whooping and hollering and getting all fired up, but the ironic thing was that it was a message of judgment on the leader of NTCC (by a guy who most likely himself didn't even make that connection) that went right over the heads of most present. They frequently target their "enemies" from the pulpit and end up shooting themselves instead.
The Eli analogy totally fits, too. Eli preferred his offspring over God, which is what we also see in the case of RW and his nepotistic tendencies.
Plus he was old and fat.
"I know there are some women on the board who do not agree with what is going on."
There have never been any women on the board.
Jeff, Thanks for putting this topic at the top of the blog again, FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS. That way ntcc is given a fair chance to REPENT.
What they do with the OPPORTUNITY is between them and GOD.
Keep up the GOOD WORK. I'm not just saying that. I really mean it!! I know it's time consuming; but think of the SOULS who will be spared the ntcc experience because of it!! Maybe I'll start a blog. There are just so many folks out there who need that place to share what ntcc did to them! And there are some, like Sandy Gesang or others who know so much about the ntcc's dirt. I wish they would step up and open up that ugly can of worms that is the ntcc! But it does take time for God to work in peoples' lives and help them admit the truth and share it with others, regardless of the personal cost. I needed these blogs to get me out there and sharing what I know. And I've only shared a little so far. It will come out though. God gets His MISSIONS ACCOMPLISHED!
ntcc has been holding the branch to His nose (defiantly provoking Him) for too long. It's like the song says,
Judgment is coming. All will be there. Each one receiving justly his due.
Romans 2v7&8 says, To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. (NIV)
Guess we just do our part and let God handle the rest! We can expose ntcc; but people have the FREE WILL to do what they want with the TRUTH.
Well, thanks again Jeff.
Angela
I was just thinking about the info blog of mck and how that you don't see many of the "players" of ntcc going on and posting.
I was kind of like: "wait a minute, how come all these men of god don't want to come on and write or give comments on this blog written by the great high and mighty, ever so intelligent, that everybody just waits for, to preach at the last night of conference?"
And you and I know why, because all that you write will later come to bite you, you know where. These ministers won't go there with a ten ft pole. They are affraid.
How many went and posted a "sorry you fell" kind of comment for the overseer mr johnson?
I've read in facebook that there is going to be a conference and I'm almost certain that there are going to be sparks flying all over about these so called facebook users accepting as friends the enemies of god.
Many are still "in" ntcc thinking that they owe ntcc something because they have become a better person.
I remember rwd preaching that he had given people self-esteem and that a lot of people had benefited from the teachings of ntcc eventhough they later forsook the org, they are doing pretty good for themselves because he had a hand in their so called success.
With no exception the people that preach in conferences will exhalt the man davis, that if it wasn't for him they would be lost, reid said that he probably would be dead somewhere in the gutter and "so many of you", he declared, to the shouting of amens.
blovd
Vic Johanson said...
"I know there are some women on the board who do not agree with what is going on."
There have never been any women on the board.
I meant married to board members ;)
Thanks
Anon!
blovd said... "With no exception the people that preach in conferences will exhalt the man davis, that if it wasn't for him they would be lost," ... blovd
Why don't they just call him their Messiah and get it over with? Just be honest and make it "official" you Blasphemous Butt-Kissers!
BB
rw davis and his cohorts are politcians. Will take credit for anything they think is postive and good. But if a person fail's in a work,or leave's the Org. Then that it is All on them. Has Nothing to do with him,mike K. none of them will take granite for what is rightfully there's. The negative aspects of there teaching's and the way they have there minister's and families live!
Everything they do is my Gods directions,correct.
They let these people go out into works. All on there OWN. No financial help AT ALL! on ONE income for a family. That usually has at least two kids and a wife,family of four one One income. To pay for the churches expense's and try and squeeze out some money for his own family!
Then he wants to get up there all high and mighty. Look down his nose at us that are in DEBT up to our eyeballs. Because one income,paying for two rents,ect. Is not going to cut it in this day in age! No matter how much he shouts if we just have faith we can do it!
Now we are learning that rw allows women that are oversea's to work on a job. But women here in the US are shunned from working on a job outside the home. We would not be keepers of the home if we did that. AS IF! We would be HELPING out home and our family. I am not one to put a career above family. But some extra dough flowing to pay bills,do things for there kids,ect. is not making a job a idol!!
Anyway,I got off topic!lol
ntcc is to BLAME for many ministers that have left a work,or left ntcc. They are to BLAME for there financial ruin. Ntcc is to Blame for broken marriage's. They are to blame for people even leaving and not serving God!!
that Blood is on there hands!
CM
CM wrote...
RW Davis and his cohorts are politicians. They will take credit for anything they think is positive and good but if a person fails in a work, or leave's the Org, then that it is all on them.
Jeff said...
That's the way they operate.
Someone leaves and the NTCC says; "they just didn't want to serve GAWD". A church doesn't grow as planned and the NTCC says; "they didn't pray and seek GAWD enough". The split took place and the NTCC says; "they were all tricked by the Devil". Here is a good one. Someone becomes broke and the NTCC says; "they didn't give and sacrifice enough".
I can't stand the NTCC crooks.
Here is the real deal.
Someone leaves and I say; "the NTCC is a crooked abusive organization full of nepotism and that is why".
A church doesn't grow as planned and I say; "too much abuse and mud slinging from the pulpit by some abusive, crooked NTCC preacher who's brainwashed".
The split took place and I say; "Too many double standards in the NTCC that would be impossible for a blind man to miss, so a whole bunch of NTCC ministers got sick of it and left for GOOD"!
Someone becomes broke and I say; "The NTCC rules and nonsense church building plan sucked them dry because they sacrificed all while the Kekels became rich and never sacrificed and the org sucked up the rest of the money".
There is the real story.
Jeff Collins
Jeff you have the right idea even though you never attended their bible school. If you had stayed with ntcc or stayed "faithful" to the program of god and let the ministers run your life than probably you would've had a licensed minister's card in you wallet right about now. I heard that some people have this card because they have been with ntcc for years and years.
If I'm not mistaken barnes was given one. I don't think he ever went to bible school.
But you sir, have it down to a t.
blovd
Yes, Barnes was ordained without having to jump through all the hoops. RW makes any exceptions he wants when it suits his agenda.
Bro Jeff,
Greetings and Saluations!!
I saw this on Sis Shunks blog and thought it may be worth copying and pasting to your web site, this COULD bring NTCC down for good...
To anyone interested,
There is a print reporter who wants to do a series on NTCC. He is interested in all sides (pro and con). He said I could post his contact information here. Anonymity is guaranteed if requested.
Bruce A. Smith
Graham reporter
The Dispatch
www.dispatchnews.com
Eatonville, WA
(360) 832-6248
BruceSmith@rainierconnect.com
Thanks,
Gregory
--Bro Johnson
The best way to defeat your enemy is with a surprise attack. Telling ntcc (the enemy) on these blogs what you're going to do ahead of time seems pretty counterproductive in my opinion. Now they may have time to shred all the evidence. Just my humble opinion.
Good point Anonymous.
But, this reporter wants to investigate both sides, to do a balanced story. So, out of respect for his personal integrity and ethics, both sides should be informed.
Plus, I don't like to blind-side people. This is probably the reason I don't like 'punked' type shows, or 'reality' shows. I don't like to see people at their worst, or in embarrassing situations...if I can help it.
Although, with NTCC this usually can't be helped.
Gregory
"I don't like to see people at their worst" Just ask that to ange or others that have suffered.
The words of rwd came to mind when I read this: "Good guys finish last."
That is why you are out of ntcc brother shunk because you are a good guy. You will always have sympathy for everybody even ntcc.
Maybe rwd will give the reporter a ham from north carolina and they'll end up eating it together.
Let's all have a kumbaya moment.
We don't want only one side of the story do we?
blovd
blovd, I understand feeling frustration over ntcc. But Gregory maintaining his integrity is great. We don't want to become like ntcc and be unethical. I'm sure God will decide when and how ntcc is judged. It might just be through a small newspaper article that set out to be objective and finds overwhelming proof of ministerial misconduct in the ntcc. Hang in there blovd. You'll get your peace back. I know it! ;-) The "kumbaya moment" made me laugh. What's with the ham?
Just Wondering
One time the army tried to see what the servicemen's homes were all about and rwd really wooed the officer that came to investigate ntcc. He was a good'ol country boy like rwd. The way the story ended was when rwd told him that he was going to get him a country ham, so the officer found no fault in what ntcc was doing in the servicemen's home and case closed.
good night.
blovd
Selling chameleons is an apt borg-approved business.
Gregory
Jeff, I was just thinking if you could please tell us how it was that this reporter came about to be so interested in writing about the ntcc.
I know that shunk put some info about this guy but it seems that shunk was the first to contact this guy.
Hopefully you are able to read my post.
blovd
I am able to read your message but I don't know "all" the details. Of course I know some but I'm not at liberty to speak for anyone else.
Jeff
looks like Ft. Riley and Ramirez threads are active again!
I remember rwd preaching that he had given people self-esteem and that a lot of people had benefited from the teachings of ntcc eventhough they later forsook the org, they are doing pretty good for themselves because he had a hand in their so called success.
With no exception the people that preach in conferences will exhalt the man davis, that if it wasn't for him they would be lost, reid said that he probably would be dead somewhere in the gutter and "so many of you", he declared, to the shouting of amens.
blovd
RWD is as full of *7^5 as a Christmas Turkey!!!
Soo many people that have even left ntcc. Still given credit to ntcc for this or that.
Why?? They crush people's spirits,leave them dead broke,Unhealthy,LOW self esteem. Doubting God,broken away from there families. Needing to mend relations with families,if even possible.
Dead broke,financial ruins.
Oh but ntcc helped me with this or that. NO WAY do i give them ANY credit for anything. If anything postive came out of ntcc. It was ALL DUE to GOD! NOT ntcc.
CM
NTCC takes credit for all the success, we get the credit for all the failures. Although, we never failed, so we don't get any credit.
Gregory
so we don't get any credit. -- Gregory
nope. but if you stay in ntcc you will be sure to get lots of debt!
Love what you just said Greg. We NEVER failed.
I am pretty sure my hubby is still in turmoil about that. Thinking he failed in the ministry. Right now,is not attending Church. Sure that has a big part in it.
I knew as soon as we left ntcc. We had not failed. We did what was expected of us. Did how they said to do it. Yes,we did try and have some enjoyment in life. A WHOLE lot less then Mike K and his wife and child enjoyed!
I know get to enjoy life to it's FULLEST! Without the blood of people's live's on my hand.
just imagine the torture that Mike goes through daily.
Can put on a good front. Oh I am happy. Why don't you go Soak your head bit he likes to tell people. All a COVER! So nobody knows that deep down,he is misreable. For selling his soul to be married to a leader of a cult. And stay married and continue the same tactics of brainwashing control tactics that his leader taught him.
Now I am the one that is much more blessed today. Then Mike K. ever will be. He will have a mansion,all the vechiles he can dream of. But I got something he can't get. Peace in my soul!
CM
blovd quoted GS saying...
"I don't like to see people at their worst"
Then blovd wrote: "Just ask that to ange or others that have suffered."
Thanks for the support, blovd. ntcc are cutthroats. They will smile in your face to schmooze you into doing what they want. When you realize you are being played for a fool and start to take power back from them they will attack. They are dogs; and you don't come between a dog and his bone.
I'm not being nasty. I'm not upset. I'm just telling you like it is. You are their property.
Stay and be played or leave and be free. It's your choice.
Angela
"Love what you just said Greg. We NEVER failed.
I am pretty sure my hubby is still in turmoil about that. Thinking he failed in the ministry. Right now,is not attending Church. Sure that has a big part in it." -- CM
I've been waiting to address this issue when the "twisted scripture" thread comes out. But let's take a bite at it right now.
I DESPISE the way rdub TWISTED THE SCRIPTURE to force people into doing what rdub wanted them to do.
Miss Deborah discussed some examples in her Beginings Thread.
But this paragraph reminded me of another pet scripture that r.w. davis took completely out of context and used as a weapon to beat down the saints of God.
to be continued...
Angela
GOD IS NOT A "INDIAN GIVER"...
rdub loved to beat down Christians by taking the following scripture out of context and yelling at them:
FOR THE GIFTS AND CALLING OF GOD 'ARE' WITHOUT REPENTANCE.
He used this as a weapon and threat to abuse hurting ministers telling them that they better shape up and get with it because God would not forgive them if they didn't do the ministry he called them to...(small "h" to convey rdub is the he we're talking about.)
A) This whole passage of the scripture there is teaching that
THE JEWS ARE STILL GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE, EVEN WHEN THEY ARE OUT OF HIS WILL
B) Don't worry about not being perfect. God is not going to take away your gift or calling. He is not a "Indian Giver".
And He is not some mean ogre standing there ready to whip and beat you for being human and getting messed up.
GOD LOVES YOU!
If anything this scripture should comfort you. If you are called to preach, God will accomplish His perfect will in your life.
You may not be called to preach. ntcc ministers just treat everyone that way. They'll scream about the bible school so much that they even get the pews thinking they are called to preach. Nonsense.
Maybe you are called to preach.
Maybe you are in a 'wilderness' experience where you are learning to trust God.
Maybe you are in need of healing. Nobody expects a man with a broken leg to run a marathon. (well, rdub would. He would brag that he would claw his way on the ground blah, blah, blah)
but trust me,
FOR THE GIFTS AND CALLING OF GOD 'ARE' WITHOUT REPENTANCE.
God isn't sorry that He called you to do something. And whatever it is, He is going to accomplish His will in your life. All you have to do is trust Him.
Don't listen to rdub. Listen to Jesus and the Holy Spirit and the Father Who loves you so much He let Jesus die in your place.
You'll be fine if you just WALK WITH GOD. He wants to be your FRIEND. HE is not a cruel task-master like r.w. davis and the abusive ntcc hypocrites who say and do not.
Look to Jesus. It'll be o.k.
Angela
Now I am the one that is much more blessed today. Then Mike K. ever will be. He will have a mansion,all the vechiles he can dream of. But I got something he can't get. Peace in my soul! -- CM
and there you have it, folks. That is what counts.
I wonder how many men that thought they were "called" into the ministry. We actually God given called. Instead of sitting in a servicemen's home daily preaching. Being bombarded with,Is God calling you? Reach the Lost souls. I can not remember much about each service. But I do remember hearing about the Lost souls out in the world,ALL THE TIME! The lady would sing,the Lighthouse song ALL THE TIME! There's a lighthouse on a hillside,that over looks life seas,when we are tossed about he sends out a light that we might see.
I can not listen to that song to this day,without alot of emotions being brought up. It does not bless my soul to hear it!
Those men that lived in those's home's heared it 24/7! Bible studies,prayer meetings,multiple church service's each week.
Kind of like putting you in a box,and you can't get out. After a while,you will get worn down. And beging to think,God has called me. God wants me out in the ministry reaching lost souls for him.
We all had willing hearts to do something for God. That is how ntcc snared us.
BUT,what if God had other plans to use us. So many avenue's to reach folks. That DO NOT include knocking on there doors and bothering them. By checking in on them at LEAST once a week. One thing i did hate was going to people's home's to check up on them. Bother there personal,family time!
In my opinion I am not sure if any men were actually called. But pressured into that road of being a pastor.
Look at many that are minister's in ntcc. They do not act like a minister. They puff themselve's up,get on a big pride trip. Think there so much more then they are. Just so they appear the "leader" ntcc wants them to be.
Imagin what God can do with your willing heart outside of ntcc. SO MUCH MORE!
CM
A thread idea Jeff.
We heard it preached over and over.
Lets not look or act like the world.
I hated that saying. It could mean anything they wanted it to mean. Trying to be like the world. What world,what part of the world.
And when we leave ntcc,there escape clause is. Oh they just wanted to be like the world!
As if we are out here sinning,running rampant,breaking laws,going crazy!
I know since leaving I have met some of the Most REAL,strong in faith Christians. Most of them go to Church once a week,and a bible study. They live there life with God. As a relationship,not putting God up there high and unattainable. He is right down there with them in there daily live's. Glad I got to meet them and many became my friends for life!
I would love to know what it REALLY means to be like the world. I know it is in the Bible. But in ntcc fashion they TWIST everything that comes out of there mouths.
What is Biblically correct>
CM
I would love to know what it REALLY means to be like the world...CM
Where's that file photo of the kekels and davises?
Anyone got a photo of their mansions?
Oh, yeah, the 4th of July pics on keks blog... hmmmnnn
"WHAT CONSTITUTES WORLDLINESS?"
rdub was screamin' that message a loooong time ago. Too bad for him he didn't "pray it through" first or just look in a mirror and he'd have the answer to that question...
what constitutes worldliness
---------------------------------
nothing says HOLY GHOST FILLED PREACHER
LIKE THROWING YOUR SET UP IN THE AIR!
313 IS IN THE HOUSE
That's almost as classy as Prince Harry in the Nazi uniform for Halloween...
OH,
but don't go to Applebee's on a Friday night, dawg
we must avoid the appearance of evil
worldly is as worldly does..............
but it's what all the Holiness Preachrs,
no, it's what all the Worldliness preachers are driving (right click on name and open a new tab to see)
did you read the back-story on this pic?
http://truestoriesoflifeinthentcc.blogspot.com/2010/02/old-bait-and-switch.html?showComment=1269653512848#c1524454950038101117
kekel's got it gooood in the world
KEEP SACRIFICING SO HE CAN KEEP IT
man that's a TIGHT SKIRT are you kidding me? why bother. Just throw on some skin tight trous's an' go for it honey, coz that ain't modest!
I can see now why davis didn't want the ntcc to have to pay for safety equipment for the building crew members at the campground like ange was talking about
It sure warms my heart to know that ntcc missionaries who
(aren't missionaries 'coz the GIs can support 'em better than their own loving brothers and sisters in the Lord could...)
around the world are sacrificing, living with no furniture, parlaying with the locals to get a deal on that chicken...
well, it warms my heart to know that just like Urijah (II Sam. 11:11), the leaders in ntcc won't go home and make merry while the rest of the men are out on the battlefields...
no worldliness here in this
COUNTRY CLUB,
silly, no worldliness here in this
ORGANIZATION...
I wonder whose reversed-vasectomy kids are in this photo?
I know kids are off limits. (but it's different when it's your kid)
but do the parents of these kids really think it was okay for davis to tell soooooooo many people to get a vasectomy,
"least they hinder the work of Gawd"
all the while davis has an ADOPTED daughter???????????????? hypocrite
and all the BOARD MEMBERS HAVE KIDS?
WHAT MAKES THEM ANY DIFFERENT?
oH, i forgot, they're special because they have their own kingdom here on earth Wright there in Graham...
speaking of R-V-s, wonder what one of these babies goes for? Oh, i know,
if you have to ask, you can't afford it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ha ha ha ha
jokes on you who sacrifice to make the rich richer
speaking of rvs, here's a cadillac xlrv, valued at $101,000 or so $$$
somebody do call the cops, coz y'all are bein' robbed!
What's with the wigs in ntcc? Why preach a woman shouldn't cut her hair because long hair is her glory, but then they cover it all with phony wigs? i don't get it.
What happened to Gail Olson when she stood up to rdub and said,
"That just isn't true."
even Gail knows he's a liar...
i guess joe olson's come a long way from the days when he was in the Philippines eatin'
fish
and
rice
and
fish
and
rice
no need to cry when you read these posts, joe. they would just be the tears of a clown
what is it with Gil Luna and the tight shirts?
dude, if we can see the nipples on your man boobs, your shirt is too tight!
"What's up dawg"
Boy you gave me a good laugh. I about died when I clicked the title and the image of the "BRO" popped up. Real funny. Of course I've seen it before but it makes me laugh just the same every time I see that crazy picture.
Kekel was flaunting those photos as almost a mockery to RWD because RWD would have gone through the roof to see the homies throwing signs during what would otherwise be considered a "serious" occasion. What a flip flop.
I love the humor in the last ten messages or so. The sick part is if you look past the humor you can clearly see the truth in all the stuff that was written. Those NTCC guys are such a bunch of double standard crooks.
Jeff
"I love the humor in the last ten messages or so. The sick part is if you look past the humor you can clearly see the truth in all the stuff that was written. Those NTCC guys are such a bunch of double standard crooks." Jeff
.....................................AMEN!!!
...........................PREACH!
The Dispatch News, Eatonville, Washington, article on ntcc is available online now. They have a comment box too.
=D
We believe that Christ is the only way," said Kinson, "although the NTCC is not the only church."
really Phil...name one!
Yeah, I was there when kekel was making that same comment about the ntcc, that they were not the only church and there are other but with the caviat that they will look the same and teach the same as ntcc. Huh? Good one k @ k, that is kinson and kekel for you.
blovd
I wonder when they stopped feeling the Holy Spirit's conviction for telling such lies. Well, it's true. That there are other churches out there; that part of the statement is true. Just like satan. Twisted what God said to Adam and added the ONE word, Thou shalt NOT surely die. Well, that is just like ntcc. We're not the only church, BUT...
You're saved by grace through faith, BUT...
I can be saved and do this and that, BUT...
blah, blah, blah, BUT...
Guess they like their big BUTs in the ntcc
no need to worry about mears that's him talking to arlen bradeen at the 4th of July festivities in the file foto link
"no need to worry about mears that's him talking to arlen bradeen at the 4th of July festivities in the file foto link"
That actually gives us more reason to worry about him.
Rev. Kekel has added some new content to his Blog.
Gregory
Rev. Kekel has added even more new content to his Blog.
Gregory
Rev. Kekel has added some new content to his Blog. Gregory
...what a surprise!
I don't know who you are or who this Mike kekal guy your infatuated with but maybe you should seek counseling. I just saying you sound really bitter to the point of embittering your own life I guess.
Anonymous wrote...
I don't know who you are or who this Mike kekal guy your infatuated with but maybe you should seek counseling.
Jeff wrote...
It's certainly possible that you are Mike Kekel. It seems obvious that you've deliberately garbled your sentences which is often an indicator of someone trying to significantly change their writing style so as to ensure the concealment of their identity. You didn't even spell Kekel right and I think the misspelling was deliberate. Just a theory however quite likely? Anyway you know who I am because it is clearly posted on the homepage. So my conclusion is that you are either extremely illiterate or you are just trying to come across as such so that someone doesn't recognize your writing style. I think the later is most probable.
Anyway Mike Kekel is the one of the senior officers who presides over the New Testament Christian Church INC. This is a church which has significantly messed up the lives of countless people. Basically to make a long story short the church leadership had previously mandated many stringent conservative rules over it's members which Mike has seen fit to change and or do away with. Electing to follow these rules (or not) used to be considered a factor which would determine your eternal destiny but now according to Mike they are no more than inconsequential trivial guidelines.
So because Mike is a senior officer within the NTCC and he has seen fit to change all the rules which were once absolute mandates, I've seen fit to expose Mike, his father in law, and their enabler Olson every chance I get. I do this with the hopes that people in the NTCC will recognize his hypocrisy and the organizations double standards and leave the NTCC for a far better life which many of us now enjoy.
Well Anonymous NTCCer, or Mike, or whoever you are, there is my explanation Einstein. One good insult deserves another.
Jeff
I went to NTCC all my life. I left at 18. The damage those people did to me can NEVER be repaired. After 10 yrs of not stepping foot in a church, I am FINALLY back into church!! I am thankful that GOD is NOTHING like PEOPLE!!! That being said....I will NEVER step foot in that church again!!
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I just looked at Mike Kekel's hit counter and he change the URL name. I'm sure he did it a while back but that is yet more proof of his damage control tactics. Had I not identified that Mike named it http://exntccrsxposed.blogspot.com/, I"m sure he would have never changed it to what it's named right now.
Mike Kekel is such a conniving hypocrite. Every time we catch him at something, he rapidly reacts in a damage control, knee jerk manner. He was caught going to a jazz festival and he gave a lame explanation about him being in love with music for so long, it was ok. He was caught allowing his son to wear shorts and he explained it away by saying that shorts on a male is no different that a skirt on a woman. Try wearing some shorts to church and see what you get but women wear skirts to church. He was caught breaking the rules like allowing his son to watch DVDs and the whole sports thing and he explained it away by saying the rules did apply to him.
When are you NTCCers going to wake up and realize that your head honcho Mike Kekel is no more than a conn artist and there is no chance that he is a so called "man of God"? You guys are giving your money and following a FAKE. He couldn't lead me to a urinal if my bladder was about to explode say no less lead someone to heaven. Why would you NTCCers follow such a proven FAKE?
Sure we were all brainwashed but the evidence is plain to see now! You guys are giving your money away to the NTCC and wasting your time day after day and month after month and you ain't no closer to heaven than any other "religious" person who goes to church maybe once a week on Sunday, New Years Eve, Easter and Christmas.
God knows you are willfully following a fake and unless you are flat out blind, you should know that also. The NTCC is no different than any other church other than the fact that it's a WHOLE lot worse!
Chief
Chief,
I remember when you first brought this up. I agree, he probably changed it soon after you originally posted this.
I continue to be amazed that someone who should be so on the ball (Senior Pastor Kekel) can't think ahead farther than what's in front of him. He is routinely reduced to reacting to things.
I cannot recall one instance when he was ever proactive.
I have often said (as have others) that he can't be any other way, since he defends the indefensible.
You or I could easily do what he does (his 3 jobs), and much more effectively. Like you, I have been on a General's staff, been a Platoon Sergeant (for 130 Marines), worked for other G-Sections, S-Sections, and tons of billets at the Company level (NCOIC, OIC, Safety NCOIC, Hazmat NCOIC, Training NCIOC, etc). Many of these responsibilities were concurrent.
I have been staff at PLDC and BNCOC.
I was in charge of deploying and re-deploying our Electronics Maintenance Company's equipment this last deployment with no loss or breakage. 6 full Conex shipping containers, 4 maintenance trailers, plus rolling stock.
Plus, an Adjunct Professor at an accredited College.
Plus, I have been a Pastor/Pioneer in the field, which he has never done...and I become more and more convinced he could never do.
I probably forgot some things, but you get the picture.
To further put things in perspective, it is my opinion he would not even make a good SPC in the Army. I would love to have him as a troop, give him real responsibilities, and put him through his paces by testing his initiative and judgment; just to see what he has.
Am I a proud braggart...maybe/probably, but my point is I have a working testimony of effectiveness and ever increasing responsibility for the past 30 years, all he has had is a 28 year static sheltered position.
The only reason he seems like such a big fish to those still in NTCC, is because he is in an extremely small pond.
Gregory
Gregory said, concerning M C Kekel, "The only reason he seems like such a big fish to those still in NTCC, is because he is in an extremely small pond."
Yep, there it is...He's just "little mikey" the the BIG MOUTH PUNK FACE!!!
Roll Tide!!!
The Tide Rolled and the Broncos bucked the Bungles. Sorry about your Giants. I can't believe they were beaten by the Squealers. I was pulling for the NY Football Giants. I guess the Pats and the Jets are off this weekend.
We watched the games on Red Zone this week. It's not the same as watching an entire game but it was pretty cool watching them all at the same time.
Too bad it's a sin to watch football, or is that one of the new double standard exceptions? It's hard to keep track anymore about which rules were just policies and which broken policies were reversed. If I were a minister in the ntcc for more than twenty years, I would be very confused. I would feel really stupid to be following someone like Kekel. I mean, you would have to be double minded all of the time. You would have to walk a tight rope trying to follow all of the ntcc teachings as they change from year to year, or month to month for that matter.
I mean, think about how hard it would be to actually be a Christian minister in the ntcc. You'd have to willingly take advantage of people to stay in the ntcc leadership's good graces. Accepting tithe and offerings is one thing but paying into an escrow that is off limits is pretty crooked. If you have to pump people for money every time something in the church breaks but you have hundreds of G's laid up in escrow, that is swindling. It's taking advantage. The ntcc plays people for complete fools and they walk around oblivious to the manipulative control they are under. I'd rather watch football than be part of that mess.
DnA
I didn't mean to justify tithe and offering with that last statement. Tithe and offerings seem to be the acceptable norm in most churches and it's hard to find a church anywhere that will turn down a tithe check. However, the ntcc is extremely evil for collecting tithe and offerings under the guise of furthering the gospel. It doesn't take an economist or a financial wizard to see where the money is going in the ntcc.
We all gave lots of money to the ntcc. We were told that if we didn't pay our tithe we were God robbers and hell would be our home. This is false doctrine, plain and simple. I know there are many churches that preach this same garbage and use tithe and offerings to better their own lifestyles while church members struggle to get by. If paying tithe was a vehicle to bring prosperity into a church members life, then there would be a lot of church members prospering in the ntcc. It was a big lie and we were all stupid for believing Davis. We all teetered at the edge of poverty and many were just dirt poor the whole time.
Now that we are blogging about this junk it seems like so many people think that we are wrong and bitter for speaking out. So many people are afraid of the ntcc abusers and carry that fear with them. They take the "high road" while disregarding warning signs. I am starting to realize that there is nothing we can do to change minds or even get people to realize how brainwashed they are. It's not just people in the ntcc, it's people that get out and continue to live under the same condemnation. I can't understand it. Why subject yourself to a bunch of hypocrites when you are no longer a part of them? Why apply rules and parameters to your life that have nothing to do with Christianity while the ntcc drags your name through the dirt and considers you to be a reprobate?
It's really sick. All of it. The ntcc is going to continue to destroy lives while they get richer and richer. People are going to continue to blindly follow them until they are completely used up and worthless in their own eyes. It seems like a waste of time but for some reason, I don't feel any desire to let up.
Hey, My Football buds! I was at the Hawks game...and what a game it was! Look out everybody, cause here come da hawks and they be comin' strong!!
Chief, I have an idea for another thread, now that I watch the "devilvision", so I can be informed about what is going on in this world. I came across the new show "Breaking Amish", I am sure most of you have heard of it. Anyway, the episode last night showed, how when these four young people returned to see their respective families, they where shunned, and abandoned by them. I thought to myself, that is very much the way that the NTCC treats people once they leave, they don't want to talk to you, you see them in a store, they don't want to approach you, in fact, they go out of their way to avoid you. That has been my experience in Graham before I left, and that is called Christianity? These people claim to be saved. That kind of treatment is not of God. If I was to go back to Graham this Sunday, I would be sitting by myself in the pew, maybe the odd person would come to me to say hi, but for the most part, I would be left alone. No thanks...
MDR, you are almost banned from the Blog with your Chickenhawks. If you step one more foot in the Chickenhawks stadium, you'll be disfellowshipped from the Chili Chiefster Blog.
Anonymous said...
Chief, I have an idea for another thread...
Chief said...
I'll keep that in mind. I may just post you're message in the body of the thread cover page. Thanks.
What do you have against expansion teams, Chief? Tampa and Seattle seem to be at the top of your list. I have to say that I believe in football freedom except for the Dallas Cowgirls. Now, the mention of that team should warrant excommunication and a 2 mil MTB.
Don and Ange are excommunicated. They wrote the word "Seattle" on this blog. Done! It was supposed to be the Suckhawks or the Chickenhawks. No more leading song service or taking up the offering on this blog.
Obama has been reelected. As long as I can keep my guns I'm cool. I didn't lose my rights to any in the last four years so we'll see what happens. Plenty of ammo is available. I wonder if everyone is going to go out and buy up all the ammo like they did last time Obama got elected? LOL. Maybe I should go to the PX and stock up on ammo tomorrow before it all (presumptuously) flies off the shelves? I have plenty of 45ACP, plenty of .40 and 357mag. I could use a little extra 9mm JHP as that has become my primary combat handgun. Yeah, I'll pick up some Win 9mm +P PDX1 124gr and some 115 gr Hornady zombie killers. That ought to get me straight with a couple boxes of each.
If we wind up like Greece, I'll be needing it. If anyone needs a good place to hold up and they don't mind pulling guard duty now and then, I got a pretty good setup. Hopefully that won't ever be necessary but if it is I'm pretty well prepared. I've been thinking about starting a gun blog. That would be a lot of fun. My only concern about that would be with the brainwashed NTCCers who might read it. Some of them dudes ain't too well put together upstairs if you know what I'm saying. The less guns some of those dudes have the better. That's where the zombie killers come in; ROFLOL.
Yeah, I'd like to review a few guns and some gear. I shot in a two gun demo this past weekend at the American International Marksmanship Academy. 9mm and M4/AR15. It was a Close Quarter Invitational Demo with SF, SWAT, Rangers and other Law Enforcement. Of course in this particular case, I was invited. It's all who you know baby; ain't that right Kekel? I was the first one to shoot and the SWAT Team Leader and one of his Team Members said that I was quite fast at engaging the targets. Eat your heart out MDR. Anyway, I was pretty flattered and it was quite an honor to be able to participate in an that kind of event with all those professionals. Me and my SF buddy who owns Black Skull Tactical went up there together and I had a great time.
Guns and Football Brother. The right to bear arms and watch football. Second Amendment baby. The NTCC tried to steal one of those rights. What? Y'all didn't know about the second part? That's Chief's Constitution in my Bill of Rights. Come and take it. Won't get fooled again! The Who. That's a rock group for all you judgmental self righteous NTCCers.
Chief
Chief, sounds like a real good time at the American International Marksmanship Academy.
Well, four more years!!! Who would have thunk it!?! It's hard to believe, given our current economic situation, that so many Americans would want to stay the course with Obama. Now that Obama has four more years, he will look at it as a mandate from the people to push his reckless, radical agenda. I picture some serious, radical gun legislation coming our way in the near future...but, we'll see! By the time this dude gets done with the economy, we'll need a wheelbarrow to buy a loaf of bread, much less a gun!
God Help America!
I didn't care for either candidate but we'll see what happens. Hopefully we won't have too many problems. We'll see.
Chief,
You are adding to your original rules that were supposed to be policies. You never said the word Seattle was a sin. As a matter of fact, I kinda like the Seattle Seahawks. What you gonna do now? If you excommunicate me, I'll go around to all the bloggers man homes and steal your furniture and drain all your accounts. Then I'll drive wedges between you and all of your bloggers.
Ain't nobody gonna tell me what teams I can like or dislike.
There are too many people in the "47%" in
this country who live off goverment and entitle-
ments in one form or another. Does anyone
really expect them to put someone in office
who will take that away? ! We might as well
just become another euro style socialist country
and get it overwith.
Well, both these candidates are whores to the banksters anyhow; their differences mostly involve preference for the police state or the welfare state (although either will deliver both, merely emphasizing one over the other). There won't be any hope or change until people get pissed off enough to wake up and turn these hirelings all out of office.
Don't look to the two major parties for anything but the status quo, protecting their "too big to fail" constituents with bailouts and coprorate welfare, while printing money like toilet paper. Look to yourselves for solutions, because we're all on our own. Big Nanny Brother is too busy figuring out how to deceive us and make us dependent.
Fight the Power! Down with The Man!
At least there was good news in Colorado and Washington, though ;-) .
Don and Ange wrote...
I'll go around to all the bloggers man homes and steal your furniture and drain all your accounts.
Chief said...
You are no longer allowed back in church. You've been fellowship. You are reprobate. I'm going to preach about you tonight after I call my special revival service so I can get extra offerings. You'll be blacklisted by tomorrow and you'll be cursed. Everything is going to start going wrong for you because you won't renounce the Chickenhawks.
Your truck is going to break down, you're going to get sick, your husband or your wife is going to leave you and you are going to be bankrupt. Then maybe you'll renounce the Chickenhawks.
Anonymous said...
We might as well
just become another euro style socialist country
and get it over with.
Chief said...
If you can't beat em join em; just like the NTCC. Where is my handout? I want to be taken care of like Kekel and Davis with daily handouts. I want to leech of society just like Davis and Kekel. Davis and Kekel are no different than welfare folks. They are always looking for a handout and that's the truth. Welfare folks leech off society and so does the NTCC leadership.
Vic Johanson my hero said...
Well, both these candidates are whores to the banksters anyhow; their differences mostly involve preference for the police state or the welfare state (although either will deliver both, merely emphasizing one over the other). There won't be any hope or change until people get pissed off enough to wake up and turn these hirelings all out of office.
Don't look to the two major parties for anything but the status quo
Chief said...
Never a truer word written Vic. Under the previous Bush administration, the Dow Jones dropped to about 7000 in October 2008. The price of gas went up to over $4 a gallon. Under his Dads administration the Active Army (right after Desert Storm/Shield) was reduced from about 875,000 down to $465,000. The House and the Senate under Obama took an already terrible deficit and made it even worse. I haven't seen either party make much progress for many years so consequently, I can't stand politics and I'm not for either party. If all hell breaks out in the United States I'm prepared to care for and PROTECT my family and I'm not waiting on the government for that one so I'm not worried about it. I could care less about Democrats or Republicans because they are both full of shit. So Vic, you and I (I think) are on the same sheet of music.
Yep, I can't stand politics. It reminds me of the NTCC and much religion in general. It simply divides people. I have good friends who are Republican to the bone and others who are firm Democrats and they are both real decent people but you throw politics into the picture and here comes Dr. Jekyll. The world is going to come to an end because of the Republicans or because of the Democrats. Whatever. I don't want the NTCC and I could care less about politics because they both create great division between friends and loved ones. Heck, it was pretty obvious that Obama was going to win the election so that shouldn't have come as much of a surprise to anyone. Life will going on today just like it went on yesterday. Alabama is still going to play A&M this weekend and I'll be glued to the same couch that I was last weekend and MDR will probably go see the same Chickenhawks that he saw last weekend.
As much as I can't stand them, if the Chickenhawks win the Superbowl, life will go on for me too. I don't know how but it will.
Well that's no fun Jeff, I can't talk about the Sea oops I mean Chicken or suck hawks or politics? I'm not too crazy about politics but I do vote and pay attention to some of the issues. I'm glad this election is over. I've had about as much as I can stomach.
Me too Bro.
dit,dit,dittos!! The powers that be are ordained from above...so if God is cool with it then so am I.
Now lets watch some football. Brady returns to the field this weekend against the Bills and the Jets come to our house. Go Hawks and the Pats.
C-mon, Jeff! you know you like the Hawks!!!
I might die if the Jets don't win. Someone better pick me out a casket in advance. Go Jets and ? Bills? Ah, I don't know. I really don't care who wins the Bills/Pats game. I don't have a problem with the Pats. They let my Giants win twice. Kekel doesn't like the Chickenhawks does he?
He does! At least think he does because I've heard him speak about them in the pulpit. But, who cares what that "big mouth little punk" likes or dislikes!!!
Hey, Don! Your boyz are lookin' real good with Peyton at the controls. Andrew Luck is lookin' good too but, I still would rather have Peyton Manning as my quarterback then him. The Broncos used to be my favorite team during the Elway years. I still followed them after Elway's retirement But, couldn't bear the Jake Plummer acquisition. So, I was a football fan without a team until 2001 when this rookie quarterback name Tom Brady led his team to the Superbowl. I've been been a Pats fan ever since. This is my story and I'm stickin' to it!!
MDR said...
He does!
Chief said...
And if that is the case, that's why I don't. That's my story and I'm stickin to it. Down with Graham and down with the Chickenhawks.
Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel , "Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land."
Nearly 75 years ago, (when Welfare was introduced) Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land."
Today, Congress has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land!
I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc .... I called a Suicide Hotline.
I had to press 1 for English.
I was connected to a call center in Pakistan . I told them I was suicidal.
They got excited and asked if I could drive a truck......
Ha, ha, ha. LOL. That was funny.
Chief
BTW, I never go to an NTCC Church because The Holy Ghost won’t let me.
Gregory
There you go again Gregory. That's funny. I met an NTCC couple (who I've met before) and the wife is one of the most unfriendly people I've met in my life. Unbelievable. The husband is fine. Of course they both know I moderate this blog but the husband is like "oh well" and the wife looks at me like I'm the Big Boogie Monster or something. It's like I got horns coming out of my head. I can't believe that I was ever a part of that nonsense. I mean this lady is like the Grinch That Stole Christmas. Sour puss big time.
Some women in the NTCC have a husband for one reason and one reason only; because they are in the NTCC. That's probably why they like it in the NTCC. You got a bunch of hard up brothers who'll take the first thing that breaths hot air and who has been determined to be a female because that's what it says on her birth certificate.
I'm not exaggerating one bit when I say that many NTCC people are some of the most unfriendly people you'll ever meet in your life. You couldn't pay me to be part of that mess for another minute.
Chief said "...and who has been determined to be a female because that's what it says on her birth certificate."
My wife ran into "sister" Keener in the store the other day and said hello to her. That ole nasty, stuck-up, witch lookin' bitch wouldn't even say hello. she just looked at my wife with that "Davis scowl".
I told my wife that she should have given here the finger and walked away!
I know what you are talking about. Some of those women (though not all by any means) are straight up nasty. I ran into Sis Hunt the other day and she was quite pleasant and for that matter so was I. I've told the Hunts what I felt about the NTCC on a few occasions but I don't do it anymore. What's the point. I know where they stand and they know where I stand. I can't stand the NTCC and I know for a fact that the Hunts are part of a manipulating, brainwashing, money hungry, text book cult. NTCCers, (even thought they don't know it) are an absolute menace to society and they do mankind little or no good whatsoever.
Chief
Hey MDR ,
I got busy and was not able to get back with you right away. Things are looking pretty good for the Broncos these days. Peyton is playing is good he ever has and hopefully this will continue. As much as I like Peyton Manning, I still wonder what could have been with Tebow. I believe that Tebow brings a spectacular element to the game of football unlike anything we seen before. I also think if he is allowed how to play his game he could have a very bright future in the NFL. But I also have to believe the Elway knows what he's doing. If you are going to replace Tebow, there is nobody I'd rather have then Peyton Manning .
Tom Brady, like Peyton Manning plays like a well oiled machine and seems to have Payton's number more often than not when they go head to head. I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch in the playoffs , or better yet in the NFC Championship Game.
you are also write about Andrew Luck. He is looking very good considering he is a rookie playing on a battered mediocre team. Last week when he threw for over 400 yards, he also had 6 third down conversions for over 10 yards each.
sorry about the typos and punctuation errors. I'm using voice text and it takes too much time to go through correct the little typos . Good luck Matt, I hope the Patriots make it as far as they can but not as far as the Broncos.
Don said "Good luck Matt, I hope the Patriots make it as far as they can but not as far as the Broncos."
When Bray and Manning meet on the field it is an epic event. One, of which, I love to watch. Did you know that they are pretty good friends off the field? During Manning's recovery time after his neck surgeries, Brady called him quite often to see how he was doing. Manning expressed in an interview that he really appreciated Brady's concern and friendship during those crucial months of recovery.
That's just like Davis. You know, kind-a like when he calls you at 3:00 a.m. not to see how you're doing but, to get even with you for waking him up from a nap to tell him that one of your Beloved brothers just got killed in Iraq. He's a real piece of work!!!
The NTCC "sisters" can be an odd bunch...I know, I was one of them.
One that is still in texted me and I did not get back with her until a few days later. I called and she says, "Did you not want to talk to me?"
Give me a break! I told her that just because I don't get back with her right away, does not mean I don't want to talk to her.
It's like she was trying to find something to make me say that I prefer not to be in touch and then it would give them reason to say that when people leave, they won't keep in touch or whatever.
It was really annoying and I told her that too. I said, "That really bothers me that you would say that."
NTCC rules in people's lives way too much. Look around that church in Graham and you will see ladies that look like they are trying to be clones of tanya; big ol' poufs in their hair, teased...but since they can't afford her clothes (except a select few or some that are lucky and find Misook in a kook store) they look so kooky. Old fashioned dresses, unmatched suits, wigs that look so unreal...
It's really hard being a woman in NTCC. They give the husband much more power than he should have.
I remember TAnya Kekel saying in one of her classes that she was teaching, "I'm tired of talking about hair and clothes."
Well, how can you blame these ladies that ask about hair and clothes!!!???? When a preacher says you have to wear a dress or else you are going to hell, and there is such a limited amount of clothes to choose from at the store, especially when living on one income, the women are going to ask for help.
When the preachers preach about women that cut their hair and saying that they will go to hell, it is really hard to control long hair sometimes and style it. There will be questions for help.
It is so sad and so sorry, it's annoying!!!
But the secret is to have as much money as tanya, or else you will still look like crap.
I have to mention tanya's heels too. Not so much that they are expensive, and that they always match her expensive purse, but the fact that when all of us "little people" were spending hours knocking on doors, walking miles, and we would all meet at a fast food place to fill out our books to let our soul winning team "leader" how many people were either:
N: not home
-: negative
D: definite, definitely coming to church
+: positive, but not definite
There was Mikey and Tanya walking around the fast food place, coming down to our level and having a little chit chat, she was in her heels. Do you really think she went door knocking in those heels? NO! It's us pions that have to door knock.
But they say if you don't go soul winning, you are dying and going to hell.
Maybe she did go door knocking in flats, and just changed her shoes in the car. Or maybe she went door knocking in heels, but they only when to two doors.
Either way, they are so full of it! And we let them control our every move.
D.U. wrote..."One that is still in texted me and I did not get back with her until a few days later. I called and she says, "Did you not want to talk to me?""
If she would get a job she wouldn't have so much time to hover over a keyboard waiting for a response.
Gregory
I have something else to add to the "NTCC look that women have to have" I can say without a shadow of a doubt that it helped to end my marriage. I was not attractive to my husband, I did not feel good about the way I looked, I did not try to look good when I knew that I was held to a strict standard of rules for what I could and could not wear, and as I use to tell my husband, I don't see any pretty women in the Graham church, and that is because the only person I could even think of was TK and then she gained weight, and she aged just like the rest of us and guess what, she is not that pretty either, with all her money. She is just like what I use to be plain faced and frumpy. Long hair, no makeup, frumpy clothes, we all looked the same, unattractive and that is the truth. We looked the way the church wanted us to look and look where I ended up, a husband who did not find me attractive, and why would he, I was unattractive. So, I can tell you this, the NTCC took my life, my self esteem, and my husband from me, in a round about way, that is what happened and come to find out these people aren't even Godly, well, I just feel duped and stupid. I don't blame the NTCC but I sure am upset that I didn't even see it, I blindly followed what I was told and look where I got, alone and to think I did it in the name of being a Christian, women in the NTCC if you are smart you won't continue to 1 not go to school to better yourself and 2 continue to dress and look like your Grandma, you will be alone and unable to take care of yourself. Take it from me, I am living with the consequences of my stupidity and blind loyalty to this so called holiness church. Think about it ladies, we are not getting any younger, and it surely will not get any easier.
Gregory said,
"If she would get a job she wouldn't have so much time to hover over a keyboard waiting for a response."
Isn't that the truth!!!??! That is one of the reasons I did not get back with her stat. I work. Though she may find fault with that too, she is the one who wastes her husband's money on gas to go all around town to find the "deals" to save a few bucks with coupons...she could be making a couple thousand bucks a month if she was "allowed" by NTCC to work a job...
and she would not have as much time on her hands to wait for my response....so true!
Anon said "and that is because the only person I could even think of was TK and then she gained weight, and she aged just like the rest of us and guess what, she is not that pretty either, with all her money. She is just like what I use to be plain faced and frumpy. Long hair, no makeup, frumpy clothes, we all looked the same, unattractive and that is the truth."
If her back side got any bigger they would have to put a "wide load" sticker on it!
D.U.,
My wife always looked/looks very sharp. I was/am very attracted to her. But she also made most of her own clothes (so dressed a lot more stylish than she could have afforded otherwise), and she always had money for purses and shoes and anything else she needed/wanted, and had/has a beautiful spirit and figure.
She/we never drove all over town looking for deals. Because, like you said, it was a waste of time and gas.
Gregory
"If her back side got any bigger they would have to put a "wide load" sticker on it!"
I've heard people for years rave about Tanya's looks...Well, I've seen prettier looking Labrador retrievers. I think she looks like a beady eye toed.
This really isn't about Tanya's looks. There are good looking and not so good looking people throughout the world. What makes Tanya not so good looking is her spoiled ways and lifestyle which came at the expense of everyone who's ever been part of the NTCC. That's not Christianity or holiness. That's being spoiled to the max and living a life of entitlement. That's rotten.
Tanya is certainly one of the most spoiled people in existence and that's no exaggeration. Think about it. Even rich kids attend and complete schools of higher education and in many cases really tough schools. Not Tanya. Even rich kids have a job and work for a living. Tanya doesn't know what a job is. Teaching at the seminary is not a job because Tanya doesn't ever have to worry about the stresses surrounding a real job like the possibility of being fired or laid off for example. Tanya had everything handed to her on a silver platter and she is as spoiled as a human can possibly get. She expects everything and she even has people waiting on her hand and foot in her very own house.
The question is, can you blame her? Would you expect her to tell her daddy that she doesn't want all these freebies? I can see it now. "Daddy, I want to work for a living". "Daddy, I want to clean up my own house all by my self with no help". "Daddy, I want to attend a real college and have teachers who hold me to a real standard". "Daddy, I want to be told what to do at some point in my life like everyone else in the world".
It's not happening because people in the NTCC are ignorant and they keep filling her pockets, waiting on her hand and foot while treating her like she's a dignitary. Tanya Kekel may very well be the most spoiled person on earth and that's the truth.
Very good analysis. I don't know how anyone could be more spoiled than Tanya. Everything she has was given to her. It's actually amazing when you think about it. Did she complete high school or was she encouraged to quit like so many other NTCC women? She is possibly the most spoiled person on earth.
Here is a definition for the word spoiled: pamper
Synonyms: baby, cater to, coddle, give in, indulge, mollycoddle, overindulge, spoil, spoil rotten
Do people cater to Tanya? YES! Is she pampered? YES! Oh yeah; that women is spoiled rotten. There can't be too many people in the U.S. who have ever been catered to quite like Tanya. NTCC tithe money hard at work. NTCC laborers hard at work. You NTCCers better clean that woman's house. Get busy. You missed a spot. Don't forget to clean around the toilet bowl rim.
Broncos are rockin steady, playing easy games and winning big. Manning continues to orchestrate Denver's O, like a well oiled machine and the Defense is looking pretty good also. MDR your Pats are looking good, they won a hard fought game and Brady is driven.
Chief, sorry about your NY teams this week. I wouldn't worry about the Giants because this is their MO. They will finish strong as always and become a force to be reckoned with by Playoff time. The Jets are stupid for not playing Tebow. It's not rocket science. Sanchez is stinking things up worse than Orton did last year. This is how simple it is. If you want to continue losing, keep playing Sanchez and you will have a losing season, guaranteed. If you want to win some games and give your team the best chance to get into the playoffs than put Tebow in.
DnA
Hey, Don! I see a showdown between Manning and Brady shaping up for the playoffs. I'm Lovin' it!!
Jeff, your Jets are stinkin' up the joint. Them "Chicken-hawks" as you put it, made "chicken feed" out of those boyz today. The Hawks are officially contenders for the playoffs and the division title, as of today. Yeah buddy!! Go Hawks!!!! and Pats!
Man, forget about them Chickenhawks and yes the Jets have stunk up the joint. The Giants looked pretty bad also. The 49ers tied. You don't see that happen very often.
My Crimson Tide lost yesterday as well however the Georgia Bulldogs murdered the Auburn Tigers. I was at the Georgia - Auburn game and my boy got to shake Aaron Murray's hand. We were actually on the side lines at the end of the game and then as soon as the game ended, we walked onto the field and my Son got to shake the hand of three Georgia football players. It was so cool. I had seats on the 50 yard line. I got four tickets for free because of my military status. Auburn is only an hour drive from my house. We'll be going there more often. Go Dawgs and Roll Tide. Looks like the SEC championship will be between Georgia and Alabama as long as Alabama doesn't lose to Auburn in the Iron Bowl. If they do lose, they don't deserve to go because Auburn stinks this year. Later and down with the Chickenhawks.
That's really cool that you son got to meet those players. Those are some memories that will be etched in his heart forever!!
You know, Jeff, you should have taken him soul-winning/harassing instead! I can't believe you!!! What kind-a father are you anyway?? Going to a football game instead of an church activity. Don't you know that Dub-face would be greatly displeased???
MDR said...
You know, Jeff, you should have taken him soul-winning/harassing instead!
Chief said...
There was a time I would have thought that was really an NTCC standard until all the G. Kekel revelations came to light. M. Kekel should have been taking his son soul winning instead of letting him attend football practice while he was in high school. Davis and Kekel are two of the biggest hypocrites on this planet. I'm just following Kekel's example. NOT!!! I'm not a hypocrite like Kekel. Kekel is on both sides of the fence and anyone in the NTCC who can't see that is stupid.
I left Graham back in July 2010, and NEVER looked back, I got my life back after leaving that cult. As far as the ladies go, TK and all the rest of the so called SISTERS are all a bunch of phony, uncaring women who really never showed me an ounce of real friendship, I think I got more friendship from "worldly" women friends than any of those women, with their holier than thou attitude, it was sickening. If they want to preach about something, here is something they can preach about "women show some true friendship to the other sisters" not the fake stuff that they do in Graham, if you aren't a preachers wife or in BS then you are just not worthy, said but this is the mentality their showed me while I was there. I was "just a member"
Even Kinson said he did not like the fact that this mentality existed, but he said and I quote "my hands are tied" I am sure nothing has changed since I left. And you the call themselves Christians...
Chief said "Kekel is on both sides of the fence..."
That's why he's a PUNK!!!
Greg, I do agree about your wife and I do remember there were some women who had either the means (money or ability) to have nice clothes, and who knew how to properly style their hair and dress for their shape, but the majority don't.
There are many that look so hokey it is not even funny. But, I do admit, there were some very beautiful women there, as is the case anywhere you go.
The main point is the vast difference between Tanya's means and the other ladies.
I was one to drive around to get deals on groceries, but I would do it wisely, such as, drop my husband off at work and on the way home, stop at grocery stores on the way, and then before picking him up, I could stop at others that I missed or go back.
I did get many deals, but did it as wisely as I could.
Oh, I just have to share, I will be getting a hair cut tomorrow, and I don't think I will be condemned to hell as NTCC preaches.
With this thread title being about Kekel's blog, I just had to go over and check it out...
How sad that blog is!!!
His last post was in April...7 months ago!
There is only one comment total in the last five threads he has posted.
The average number of times someone clicks on his "ratings" where they can say "Amen" or "blessing" is 4.
At one time, both Kekel's blog and this blog were at the same amount of views, but now Kekel's is only at 135,744...we are well over that.
Every time I check the site stats here, there is usually about 5 new visitors...and today there were 9 new visitors.
The word is getting out...many good, God fearing people have left ntcc to go on and enjoy their God given rights and lives.
I know Kekel is allowed to run his blog anyway he wants, but isn't it odd...it seems people are almost afraid to comment! Why are there no questions being answered on his blog? Why is there no conversation? I'd bet all the questions that he gets asked never get posted and answered, because I asked a question and he never got back with me...
and it was about women working...
go figure!
He's probably too busy on twitter.
Check him out on twitter...yup...check out all who have twitter accounts! Probably people who preached against the internet. Even one of the minister's wives has a fb account, but with a fake name...
so sad!
228,535 views here!
Well, well, well...I guess MrsKekel has a twitter acct as well!
She is "dipping her toes in the social networking pool" as she said for her first post.
She is "taking baby steps out of the 20th century".
I wonder if she let all the other minister's wive's know that they can do that too...maybe they wrote in their rule book that they are allowed on twitter and fb so that people don't feel condemned to go on there!...but probably not.
Mike probably just explained in a class or over the pulpit that it is okay now.
Check this last post out...and then I will stop typing and go to bed:
Tanya quoted,
"I am thankful for the difficult people in my life. They have shown me exactly who I don't want to be."
Wow. That is all I can say to that. Can anyone explain that one to me?!
Why would anyone want to write a comment of Kekel's blog, let's face it, if it is not a blanket statement like bless you sir, or what a blessing, people can't be real around this "man of God", they are all as fake around him as they can be. I am sure he knows it too.
Thanks D.U.
She's definitely a trophy wife, and I can't begin to describe how enamored I am with her. She is brilliant, both her mind and the light she shines on the/my world.
Gregory
"My wife ran into "sister" Keener in the store the other day and said hello to her. That ole nasty, stuck-up, witch lookin' bitch wouldn't even say hello. she just looked at my wife with that "Davis scowl"."
I really liked Jeanine Keener when we were trapped together in the org. She was always friendly and seemed to have a good spirit. We used to have a blast visiting with her and Rich. He was actually one of the first that learned I left, and the last thing he said to me was to give him a call if I ran out of friends. A few years after we left, we were travelling through. I sure hadn't run out of friends, but had heard that Rich had a bad logging accident, and I wanted to see them, so I called. Jeanine answered and was so cold that I thought I'd get frostbite on my ear right through the phone. She wouldn't let me talk to Rich, and I was astonished at her hostility. It made me realize just how much NTCC messes people up. Eli Gesang acted the same way when I tried to contact him too, and all this happened years before FACTnet and the blogs, when I wasn't yet as negative as I am now about the org (because now these online resources have revealed just how corrupt and wicked they really are).
"The average number of times someone clicks on his "ratings" where they can say "Amen" or "blessing" is 4."
"Funny" used to be there too; I would click it for every post, and shortly thereafter it disappeared. But all his posts truly are hilarious if you compare them with reality.
D. U. To understand tanya the Pharisee kekel's comment, read this:
Luke 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men [are], extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Ok here is the deal. For now I'll keep this word verification thing but not any longer than I have to. Here is how it works. You have to type the letters and numbers with no spaces between the letters and numbers and the letters are case sensitive. Sorry but I got about 1100 spam messages recently and many of them did get posted.
For about a year now, spam messages have been automatically going to my spam folder. Well as of yesterday some drug company's spam messages were able to get through as posted messages and a lot of them. They were generated by a robot system and the only way you can stop that is by enabling "word verification". The last time that happened, I left word verification on for a while, then took it off and went about a year without spam messages. I don't like word verification so I don't plan to keep it here long if I don't have to, and I'll use trial and error to find out.
Ahhh!! Life is so good since our departure from the Ntcc cult!!! My wife and I had one of the most wonderful times together that you could have on planet earth. We went to see the best group that ever hit the stage, RUSH! No, it wasn't a bluegrass concert...it was a rock concert. I won front row tickets with a limo ride to and from the show. We literally had the best seats in the house. Row 1 seats 17/18. All I can say is WHAT A SHOW! Well, now it's off to work, Have a wonderful day, everybody.
You sinner. You should be ashamed of yourself. Rush? Don't you know that the only secular concerts that you can attend are winter/blue grass festivals like the one that Mike Kekel attended and admitted to? You need to get prayed through MDR.
The only college you can attend is a catholic college per the Kekel's example. Your kid, (if you ever have one) can play football and basketball in school and wear shorts per the Kekel's example. You can even have church-land donated to you as a gift per the Kekel's example. Well Rush-attendance was not shown to you by example of the Kekel's so you need to get RIGHT! Don't you know that Kekel is a Man Of Gawd? That's what NTCCers call the entire NTCC leadership. Men Of Gawd. Ashmore, Kekel, of course RWD, Jones, Kinson; all "Men Of God". Right? Men of God?
Really? None of them are "Men of God". They are a bunch of fakes and conn artists.
Wow that's great MDR, we are happy for you guys. He after what you went through, you deserve the royal treatment. I'm sure a lot of church folks will be pointing fingers at you and shaking their heads. That bunch is very good at finding fault with other people. if they would spend half of their energy, loving their neighbor, helping the helpless, worrying about themselves instead of others, keeping their noses in their own business and serving others instead of themselves, the world would be a much better place.
instead, this is what I guarantee you will happen . All the people that are not supposed to be on the blog are going to read this and the gossiping will begin. Not only will they gossip about you but they will also talk about you like a dog. They need to do this to justify their hypocritical lifestyle. Congratulations Matt and Deb, you got to experience something fun that you'll remember for the rest of your lives.
So true!
They point fingers while secretly wishing they could go too.
Hope you smoked a well rolled "J" and tossed back some tequila!!!! Hell Yeah!! I would have worn my wingtips to that show!!!
Thanks, Don! It was truly spectacular. If I never go to another concert again as long as I live, I can say I've been to the best and I didn't need dope or alcohol to enjoy it. Neil Peart, Alex Lifeson, and Geddy Lee are three of the most talented musicians on the planet. They played a 28-song set which included three Neil Peart drum solos, two encores, all in all a total of three hours of stage music. Incredible!
"Little Mikey" said he left the bluegrass concert when it started to get bad...well, our concert never got bad, so we stayed for the whoooole thing!
MDR wrote...
I didn't need dope or alcohol to enjoy it
Chief said...
I'm with you Bro. I don't need it either. I went to the Georgia - Auburn game and I didn't use or need either one. I may have left the NTCC but smoking dope isn't an option for me. It's just not my thing.
Now on the other hand, Proverbs 31:6-7 says:
6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.
I could live with a little of that but of course the NTCC hypocrites don't like either of those two scriptures. That goes against their false doctrine. Here is another:
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
Notice the deacons were extorted not to be given to "MUCH" wine! Imagine that! Well RWD and Kekel broke the rules in that scripture because they both are greed of filthy lucre. I just looked that one up, (even though I already knew what it meant) and I quote: "greedy for money".
So they violate that scripture by teaching that it's a sin to drink a little wine and they are both greedy for money. Boy they both got that whole scripture twisted up backwards. What they teach is a sin isn't, and what they don't teach is a sin, is!!! They don't commit the one that isn't sin (as far as we know) but they do commit the one that is!!! Davis and Kekel, the two biggest hypocrites that I've ever met in my life. Two extremely greedy dudes of filthy lucre.
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