12/31/2011

The Rich And The Poor. The New Testament Christian Church. It's Set Up That Way.

To the left is a picture of an NTCC van with a cracked windshield.  Kind of like the one down in Jackson, Mississippi.  

RWD always taught that we should aspire to be like New Testament Christian Church Pastors.   Sorry but you can have it.  For those of you who don't know, Pastor R. Terry is now the pastor of the NTCC in Jackson Mississippi since Pastor Barnes left.  The church van/bus in Jackson, Mississippi is Pontiac Montana with a cracked windshield.  The Pontiac Montana is no longer made and received a "Poor" rating by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). It was also ranked the "Worst Performing Vehicle".  Not exactly what I'd want to be riding to church in.  Point being is that this van has "low budget" written all over it which is typical to find driven by someone in the NTCC.  I wonder why the NTCC would buy such a cheap, low budget van?  Why don't the Kekels live this way?  Are they that much smarter than everyone else or do they just receive preferential treatment?  Are the Kekel's so much more spiritual than everyone else that the Lord primarily blesses them?  Which one is it?  The Kekel's sure live better than the Terry's, of that you can be certain.  Aw, they let Terry lead song service during conferences.  I guess that makes it all worth it.  All you've got to do is give him a bone.  Crumbs from the masters table baby.  

Additionally why is it that the NTCC hasn't updated it's "official website" reflecting Pastor Terry as the Jackson, Mississippi Pastor?  He has been there for a good part of this year.  What is the NTCC trying to hide?  That Bellamy and Barnes have left?   The NTCC official website is simply a lie.  They've had more than enough time to update it.  

Anyway I wouldn't want to live like Pastor Terry is living at around 50 years old.   My family deserves better and so does Pastor Terry's wife.   The Terry's live in a low/special income apartment dwelling in Jackson.  Other than the Kekels or a few other special privileged NTCC preachers,  is that what an NTCC pastor has to look forward to at 50 years of age?  Driving a low budget outdated crappy Pontiac van with a broke windshield and living in a low income dwelling place?   WOW!!!

Serve almost 30 years in the NTCC and this is what you have to look forward to?  Get sent to pick up the pieces of a church that the long time pastor (Barnes) left, and live at or below the poverty level?   At about 50 years old?   And Terry was sent there specifically and primarily because he is black and there is a fairly sizable population of blacks there who don't have a problem paying tithes and offerings? There are Whites in Jackson too you know. I guess there aren't too many white pastors who've had a whole lot of success getting tithes out of the white population in the south. So does God primarily care about the blacks in the south? The NTCC sent Terry down there in an attempt to attract the blacks; same reason they sent Mayers to Atlanta and Davis to Macon and Solomon to Dothan.  White Pastors before Mayers didn't fair so well in Atlanta.  They tried to mix up the Atlanta deal with a couple white helpers but that didn't work out too well cause they all got sick of Mayers shenanigans and left him. After a while Mayers didn't work out too well either.  If he is even still with the NTCC, he has been riding on auto pilot for a while now.  Money and numbers baby; that's what it's all about.  


Tanya Kekel can spend the money blacks give just like she can spend the money whites give.  I don't see the NTCC sending the Kekels down to Jackson to live like that?  You can keep that mess.   This is the NTCC way.  If  you don't see it you are blind.  By the way, why did Barnes leave the NTCC?  Maybe he knew something that the people who are still with the NTCC don't or don't want to admit.  Barnes won't be sending his church money to Graham anymore or paying for more RVs.  He won't be taking in anymore money which could be used to put G. Kekel through a Catholic college either. Has anyone even asked why Barnes left?  No because most are scared.  The NTCC leadership wouldn't tell you the truth anyway.  I wasn't a big fan of Barnes but he was smart to fly the coop.  

Chief

12/30/2011

Oh The Hypocrisy That Drove A Man To Murder And Suicide.


This is a tough one.  Not quite as easy as I expected but nevertheless, here we go. There was a man in the NTCC by the name of Roland Moreno.  Roland personally observed his NTCC pastor leaving a whore house in Japan.  Roland confronted the pastor and a heated confrontation erupted between Roland and his pastor concerning the obvious impropriety and truly unchristian-like conduct committed by the supposed "man of God".    According to the account which I was personally told, the pastor said that his conduct didn't classify as adultery because he wore a condom during his sexual act with the whore.   This pastors name was  Phil Kinson! 

 Roland was somehow able to provide notification to the NTCC leadership concerning Kinson's misconduct and Mr. Kinson was later removed from Okinawa Japan and replaced by another minister.   This is when Roland's big troubles began.  The minister that replaced Mr. Kinson was Mr. Ashmore, and Mr. Ashmore promptly proceeded to blacklist and ostracize Roland Moreno.   Never again was Roland Moreno treated justly by the NTCC leadership.   The NTCC leadership to include R.W. Davis systematically targeted Roland Moreno and his wife from that point forward.  Word to the wise;  (At which point in time you elect to challenge the authority, credibility or morality of an NTCC pastor, you better be prepared to promptly leave the New Testament Christian Church for good).  You'll never win that battle and Roland had to find that out the hard way.  

At a later date, M.D. Reed had the fortitude and courage to confront R.W. Davis directly concerning  this scandal.   Pastor Reed wanted to know why RWD would promote Mr. Kinson (who was known to have committed adultery) to the position of overseer within the New Testament Christian Church.    R.W. Davis pointed his finger in Pastor Reed's face and essentially scolded Pastor Reed for involving himself in another man's adulterous affairs.   M.D. Reed posted a statement on this blog, where you can read it on the previous thread. 

Ultimately Roland Moreno was blacklisted by the NTCC leadership because he uncovered Mr. Kinson's sin.  The blacklisting obviously occurred because Kinson is the son-in-law of an NTCC overseer and in case you haven't figured it out yet, the NTCC is a family business.  This resulted in Roland succumbing to extreme depression which caused him to take the life of himself and his family.  Plainly put, "The NTCC leadership drove Moreno mad".  

Attached below is a news article which addresses Mr. Moreno's death. 


This is a true story which has been verified by the credible and reliable.  I was told this first hand and to the best of my knowledge I'm reporting factual information.  Make no mistake; double standard hypocrites who preach fire and brimstone will eventually be found out.  This is tragic and truly sad for all parties involved.   These crooked preachers need to do the honorable thing and leave the pulpit and stop judging everyone but themselves. 

I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints  (Mr. Moreno's blood and the blood of his family is on the hands of the NTCC leadership)

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.  For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.  For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.  How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.  Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. 

12/08/2011

The Floor Is Open

This is a time to get back to business.  The floor is open.  The New Testament Christian Church is as corrupt as ever.   Go Broncos.   

Chief 

11/01/2011

Standing With Bro Briggs

We are in your corner Bro Briggs.   We wish you a full recovery.   Several people have elected to make statements and write scriptures that may be uplifting to Bro Briggs during such a difficult time.   He has been diagnosed with cancer and apparently it's pretty far advanced.  Probably no one (with very few exceptions) can legitimately begin to understand what Bro Briggs is going through during this time.  You can trust the Lord but that in itself doesn't totally take away from the natural fear that someone experiences who's been diagnosed with such an illness.  


So under these circumstances many feel it's good to use this blog exclusively for the purpose of encouraging Bro Briggs during this time.  Feel free to contribute and write things that may serve to ease and to calm the Brother's soul.    I've started this thread at the request of someone who posted a message on the previous thread.   


I respectfully request that you don't use this thread as a means to discuss the "NTCC".   I will move or delete such messages.  We want this thread to serve as a tool for encouragement.   We are pulling for you Bro Briggs and we sincerely wish you and your family the best.  


Jeff

10/02/2011

A Complete Lack Of Wisdom

A while back, Mike Kekel wrote an article on his blog called "Ain't Misbehaven".  Yesterday, Don and I were talking on the phone, and we were both astounded that Mike would even publish and openly display such information.  Approximately one year ago I posted an article referencing what Mike wrote titled "The Irony Of It All".  Directly below is a link which will take you straight to that article. 


Anyway, I wanted to repost what M.C. Kekel wrote because I'm still amazed  that he'd be so careless as to throw his father-in-law, RWD under the bus in such a fashion.  Either that, or it's part of yet another New Testament Christian Church master plan to allow in what they've called "compromise" for decades. 

M.C. Kekel wrote...

"I do not make the rules, and have only recently had opportunity to affect them. In the past I have only been in the unfortunate position of having to enforce them. That doesn't mean I agreed with them. If so be they were mistakes, they weren't mine. As for the church organization? I have nothing to do with policies and doctrines of the organization concerning things like TV (which ministers aren't to have if they carry license in NTCC- unless it is solely as a gaming monitor or something, and not connected to TV input) and couldn't change them if I wanted to. If that gets changed, Rev. Olson will have to do it by mandate or through board approval. I have no such power. Even in the Bible School realm I am limited."

"My influence on the bible school rules has only been to lighten them, not increase them. Further, since I wasn't a bible school student during that time, I was not UNDER those rules. The sports rule was not bible based to begin with, and was for bible school students. Not me."

Chief said... 

These statements absolutely amaze me!!!!!! They're jaw dropping.  I don't know how anyone in the New Testament Christian Church could ignore these statements if they have a conscience or any intelligence and common sense.  Do you really trust the NTCC leadership with the task of guiding you to heaven?  Really?  There are two people who are key leaders in the NTCC;  R.W. Davis and M.C. Kekel.   These statements (written by one NTCC executive board member, namely M.C. Kekel) made a complete mockery of the Founder of the NTCC, namely R.W. Davis.  Who do you think came up with all the rules and or endorsed every last one?  RWD!!!   Basically Mike wrote, (and of course I'm paraphrasing here) that he was the unlucky scapegoat who had the dubious distinction of having to enforce a bunch of bogus rules that he didn't agree with and had nothing to do with in the first place.   Boy if that ain't throwing RWD, and the rest of the general board under the bus, I don't know what in the world is?  

Listen here people and please listen good.  Armed with this information, I'd have no reason to believe that God inspired one single rule that RWD ever spewed out of his big fat mouth.   "Ask permission to go visit who"?  "Ask permission to stop where"?  "Ask permission to accept a job"?  "Ask permission to date or talk to who"?  "Stand against the wall just to talk to a woman"?  "You said it's a sin for all women to work"?  "Where is that rule found in the Bible, Proverbs 31"? "REALLY, ARE YOU SERIOUS, ARE YOU KIDDING ME"?  

Obey them that have rule over you?  When I know that they have a history of coming up with a bunch of stupid rules that Kekel doesn't even agree with, and he considers himself as being unfortunate for even having to enforce them?  REALLY?  Huh!!  Never again.   I'm a grown man with a family to look out for.   You can follow a bunch of stupid rules and con artists if you want to but I'm not the one.

Cha Chief, Cha Chief, Cha Chief Chief Chief  

P.S.  I wouldn't follow M.C. Kekel or RWD to find a toilet (say no less as spiritual leaders) if I had diarrhea blowing out my butt like it was shot out with an air compressor at 200 PSI.  

10/01/2011

Saturday College Football

Life is good.  Me my boy and my beautiful wife are watching College football.   It's that time of the year.  Thanksgiving is coming and fall is almost here.  This is my favorite time of the year and I am truly blessed.   Good food in the house, a loving family.  What more could you ask for?  God has been good to me.  Today is a beautiful day; around 71 degrees in Southern Georgia. A little windy though at about 20 mile an hour.  Maybe I'll take my wife out to a nice restaurant today.   Money sure is not an issue.   It can't get much better than this.  I'm just so happy right now I'm smiling inside.  Thank you Lord for looking out for me and my family and for providing us such a great life.  I don't guess I deserve it but I'm not going to complain.  Life will throw you some ups and downs so take the good while you can and enjoy it as life is short and tomorrow ain't promised.  My little boy makes me so happy.  

If you don't have children, your missing out on a TRUE BLESSING FROM THE LORD.  The real deal.  My little boy makes me so happy it's unbelievable.  He is the greatest blessing and joy.  God is good.  Life outside the NTCC is absolutely gerrrrrate like Tony the Tiger.  This post will only stay on top today and then I'll knock it down a few notches.  I just felt like expressing how happy I am.   Hey, me and my little boy just ate a couple big green salads.  He likes Zesty Italian and I like Hidden Valley Ranch.  We eat the salads in big ceramic bowls.  Makes the salad taste better than plastic bowls.  You know what I'm talking about.  Just took a pound of Oscar Mayer oven roasted turkey breast out of the big upright freezer.  Me and my boy like deli sandwiches with the good meat.  Sliced turkey and sliced chicken breast; the deli fresh kind.  

Only the best for my little boy.  Life is too good.   If you are in the NTCC and you aren't living like me and my little boy you need to ask yourself why?  The Good Lord is blessing me, why ain't he blessing you?  I'm not talking about no bargain basement deli meat.  I'm talking about the good kind.   Low fat baby.  0% saturated fat.  I don't think you NTCC dudes know what I'm talking about.  The Lord doesn't have me worried about what I throw in the grocery basket.  I'm almost out of lettuce and I'm totally out of fresh carrots and tomato's.   I'll have to make a trip to the grocery store cause my little boy needs his green salad just about every day.  Life is good.  Oh, he is not drinking all that high sugar NTCC Kool-aid either.   Only real fruit juice.  The kind you NTCC folks don't get during fellowship. Kekel and Kinson get the good stuff.  Some of the other well-off pastors get the good stuff also.  Your dollar.   The crooks get the good stuff and the struggling church members and struggling ministers drink Kool-aid.  

Chief 

1 NTCC Chapter 6:66: That they may teach the young women to be keepers at home, unless they are real estate agents and owners / managers of rental properties while employing their husbands as maintenance men or if they serve as NTCS teachers. Under only those conditions may they keepest a job lest they transgress and livest in sin.

 
Recently we learned that a former NTCC lay pastor by the name of Kelly Merz, murdered a women in an apartment that is owned by Mr. Merz ex-wife, Cherlyn Merz.   Information surrounding this tragedy can be found by clicking on the below linked Mountain News - WA article.  


The interesting part of the article has nothing to do with the murder.   It has to do with Cherlyn Merz association with the NTCC and more specifically R.W. Davis.  It was reported in the article that the NTCC sends Ms. Merz  a steady supply of tenants from the NTCC.   The article also said that RWD instructed NTCC students, who felt they could buy a house should do so through Mrs. Merz.  My question is why?  Who is Ms Merz to RWD?  

Ms Merz left the NTCC years ago so why would the NTCC send her a steady supply of tenants?  The article said that Ms. Merz at some point in time paid tithe to the NTCC, no doubt from her real estate business proceeds.   First off, why did the NTCC leadership condone Ms Merz having a job when it is commonly taught that it's a sin for a women to work?    She would be considered a sinner according to the NTCC leadership by all accounts.   So being that she would clearly be considered a sinner by the NTCC leadership, why would the NTCC support her sinful endeavors by providing her with a steady supply of tenants?   The only logical answer is quid pro quo, (you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours).   

RWD doesn't own enough rental properties to rent to and make extra money off of all the NTCCers in graham and not only that some NTCCers have no desire to rent from RWD anyway.  So what is the next best solution.   Send them to rent from someone who would pay tithe to the NTCC on all the proceeds. Quid pro quo.  Doesn't matter if it's a woman.  You Sisters are really getting played if you don't get a job now with all this information.  Not only that, Ms Merz could use the tithe as a tax write off.   Then, even though Mr. and Mrs Merz got divorced she could still use her ex husband (Kelly Merz) to maintain her properties while he delivered pizza on the side for extra money.  Sounds like old Kelly Merz was getting used by everyone.   NTCC gets extra money from an NTCC qoute "sinner" woman who shouldn't have ever had a job in the first place (according to NTCC commonly known standards)  and Ms Merz would be provided an endless supply of tenants, compliments RWD and the NTCC.   Forget holiness or abstaining from the very appearance of evil.  This agreement will work.  

So Kelly Merz was being used and so was everyone who the NTCC sent to rent from Ms. Merz.   You better believe that somehow the NTCC and or RWD got kickbacks in some form or fashion from Ms. Merz or Ms Merz had something on RWD and a constant flow of tenants was simply used to keep her mouth shut, one or the other. The NTCC wouldn't send NTCCers to rent from an EXNTCC SINNER WOMAN if somehow it didn't benefit them.   Not only that, Kelly, who was no longer a member of the NTCC was constantly associated with the NTCC tenants because he was the maintenance man.  Why would the NTCC leadership want that when you know they constantly try  and keep their faithful people away from exNTCCers.     Sounds fishy to me?  If it swims like a fish and smells like a fish then you better believe it's fishy for a reason.  

You know what, I'm sick of not getting a piece of the cash from all these suckers.  I need to go to Graham and buy a few four-plexes and then here is what I'll do.  Contact Kekel and tell him if RWD will send me a constant supply of tenants to rent from me, I'll take down this blog for good and leave no trace and I'll pay his org tithe so I can have a good tax write off.   Believe me this blog costs the NTCC a lot of money.  There is no telling how many NTCCers have left the org and how much tithe they've lost as the direct result of this blog.  

Hey Kekel, here is another offer.  You want this blog down and gone without a trace?  Call me with a monetary figure and if it sounds good, this blog will be gone and I'll never post another message for good.   NTCC tithe payer money hard at work.  Quid pro quo.  Don't forget the fresh supply of trusty NTCC tenants in Graham for my new four-plex.   Hey, it's pretty clear that these NTCC people are going to continue to be suckers so why shouldn't I get a piece of the pie, Ms. Merz does.  Everyone wants to make money off of NTCC people. RWD rents to them, gets work out of them, they pay tithe, they rent from Ms Merz, they clean Kekels house, they do things around RWDs house, shine shoes, give special offerings, stand guard around the compound.  These folks like being used. It's in there new nature, you know the brainwashed one.   Well it's time for me to get a piece of the pie, I'm tired of being the nice guy.  I only accept cash, you know like RWD on his rental properties.  That way no one would ever be able to prove the NTCC paid me to take this blog down and I'd never admit it.   

Mr. Kekel, don't worry about your people getting suspicious when this blog is gone because  I openly made such an offer right here.   Give them some ridiculous explanation for why my blog got coincidentally taken down right after I made this offer.  Tell them that the Lord warned me in a dream or something.  In fact here is a good plan.  Prophesy to the church saying, "The Lord told me by sunrise this Friday, Jeff Collins blog would be gone forever" and then send me the money.   I'll take it down by Friday 6:00am on the money, they'll buy off on it, you'll be a great prophet and I'll get paid and you won't have to worry about this blog tormenting you anymore.  Quid pro quo.  

Your people are so brainwashed they'd buy off on any explanation.  They bought off on Olson's most ridiculous explanation of the land deal where the NTCC donated you and Mrs. Kekel 39 acres of land valued in 2008 at $373,000 dollars.   If they bought off on Olson's lame explanation, they'll buy off on anything.  Remember, I only accept cash.  NO CHECKS.  I learned well from RWD.   You want this blog down or what?  

Chief

A Group That Tries To Seperate You From Your Family. Maybe A Cult, Do You Think? Chances Are That's What You've Got

In the previous thread Edward wrote...

My mother died 11 years ago and my father-in-law died 10 years ago. I literally cry when I think of how I wasted the last few years I had with them by being dedicated to those who absolutely could care less about me. I was only a tithe check and a warm body to forget about when I had enough of the bondage. My mother and I were really close before my coming to NTCC.  And for those of you that will say that it is not NTCC fault, I beg to differ. My pastor of the serviceman's home would constantly share stories of those that went to visit family and would stop serving God. During Bible School they warned us that our family could lead us away from God. That will make anyone cut off their relationship with their family. 

Jeff said...

Yes Edward, the NTCC leadership constantly taught that you should distance yourself from your family.  I had a pastor who didn't even think it was a good idea for me to visit my family prior to going oversees for 3 years.   They tell you that your Mother and Father are the devil.  The NTCC leadership has always equated leaving their church with leaving God.  There could be nothing further from the truth.  Leaving the NTCC is the best way to find God.  One regret that is uniformly shared by virtually everyone who leaves the NTCC is the sorrow they experience as a result of how they treated their family while they were a part of the NTCC cult.  

Do yourselves a favor NTCC people.  When some NTCC leader tells you that you shouldn't go visit your family or to distance yourself from your family, you need to tell them to back off and mind their own business.  Then when they blast you from the pulpit because of it, you need to stand right up during that very service and blast them right back.   Unless your NTCC pastor leaves the NTCC the same time you do, he won't be there for you.  Take that one to the bank.  When you've had enough of the NTCC and you leave, in most cases, your family will be there for you.  You better think about it real hard or you will have the same regrets that Edward and I have one day.  Either listen to me now or you'll learn the hard way.  Tell the NTCC leadership that the relationship you have with your family is none of their business and they need to BUTT OUT.  

That is one of the biggest problems with so many in the NTCC leadership.  They are a bunch of busy bodies who concern themselves with entirely too much that has nothing to do with them.   Your Mother and Father took care of you when you couldn't take care of yourself.  The Bible says you should honor your mother and father.   Involvement with the NTCC is not a justifiable cause for you to throw that commandment completely out the widow.   Unless you had a Mother or Father with some serious issues, the NTCC leadership will NEVER love you as much as your Mother and Father have.   The fact is, the love the NTCC leadership has for you is conditional anyway.  Pay tithe and we will act like we love you.  Stop paying tithe and there is the door.  Stop being a blind zombie and there is the door.  Start thinking for yourself and there is the door.  You call that love?  When your Mother and Father were putting food on the table because you couldn't provide for yourself, their only concern wasn't much money you could bring into their house.  In contrast, the money you bring into the NTCC is Davis' only concern and you are seriously delusional if you believe otherwise. 

Jeff

9/21/2011

The Systematic Targeting Of The Borderline Retarded

 
As I pondered the Merz tragedy this morning, I came to a stark realization.   The borderline retarded have been easy prey to the recruiters of the New Testament Christian Church. This morning I began to think about the mentality of a bunch of brothers who I've personally known living in the serviceman's homes. A good many of these dudes had loose screws and they absolutely were and are NOT playing with a full deck.   I can think of 5 guys right off the top of my head who lived in the serviceman's home at Ft Hood Tx who really had something wrong upstairs.  I can think of 3 in Columbus Ga who fell in the same category. Of this bunch, 4 immediately come to mind who wound up becoming minsters in the NTCC.   

These are the people who give marriage counseling.  These are the people who give financial guidance.  These are the people who give spiritual guidance.   One such person, (by all accounts) recently murdered his room mate. The NTCC has issues.  Would you want your child to receive life altering guidance and counseling from the likes of these kind of guys?  The NTCC is sick in the head both literately and figuratively.  

The reason these types are such easy prey is because they are so odd, they don't have many friends to begin with.  Then here comes this "friendly" NTCC recruiter who picks up the mentally impaired for church, goes to dinner with him or her, has them spend time or stay over at the serviceman's home and the fish swims right into the net.   Easy prey.  It's even easier to get the mentally impaired to part with their money but here is the sick part.   The NTCC leadership will occasionally let one of these types become a pastor and they routinely allow them to become ministers and worker bees and in the process they attract more of the same.   The NTCC is FULL of dudes who ain't playing with a full deck.

I'm telling you, some of these guys that come to mind absolutely didn't have it all upstairs and they never got it all upstairs and in fact they got worse as the years went on in the NTCC.   They not only were "off" to begin with but they totally lost touch with reality as a result of their involvement with the NTCC.  That's how you arrive at Mr. Merz.   He wasn't the first and he won't be the last because the NTCC targets those kind of guys.   Guys who are mentally impaired are easy to get  to church, (numbers) and  it's easy to convince them to part with their cash, (money).  With RWD it's all about two things and he openly said it over and over again in conference, (money and numbers) and a mentally challenged individual contributes to both.

So the end result is you have an abnormally high percentage of mentally challenged in the NTCC who've become ministers.  I could name names right now but I won't for the sake of the guys who fall in this category but you better believe this; I'm 100% right on this one.  The NTCC leadership takes advantage of these dudes and I know of one in the NTCC right here in Columbus GA.

Chief