Nicole wrote in a previous thread...
"In one of the classes that Davis taught, two sisters were bickering or mad at each other for something, so one tattled on the other that she had started going to Curves. Davis got very angry and told our whole class that if we have money to attend Curves, he was going to raise our tuition. "
Jeff said...
This is as usual a totally startling revelation. I really wonder what it will take so that NTCC folks will wake up and forsake old RWD and the NTCC. Does everyone understand what Davis was saying????? He was saying that people would spend THEIR money the way he, (RWD) saw fit or he would create a institutional financial requirement that would totally effect the amount of money that his students had to spend. He would create a situation that would require them to spend money which would go to the NTCC so they wouldn't have enough money left to spend on what they wanted. The mentality that RWD possesses is so sick, controlling, conniving, and crooked that it is almost beyond understanding.
Who is RWD to dictate how grown folks spend their money? Not only that but do all the readers here have any idea how many NTCC woman currently attend fitness centers such as curves? LOTS. It's all over the internet because that is a good percentage of what NTCC women talk about; hence my last thread. So what kind of double standard garbage is that? It's called using a school to indoctrinate your psychologically manipulated slaves and minions. That was proof that RWD was after their MONEY. More importantly and more accurately than that, it is proof that RWD truly feels deep down inside that HE, (RWD) should have control of YOUR MONEY, PERIOD. Additionally, it is also obvious that if he thought you were spending your money on something other than HIS CHURCH, he would create a church requirement that would result in you not having any money left to spend elsewhere. That is sick and RWD is a complete con artist and I have no problem or fear of writing it or saying it.
Jeff Collins
P.S. How long will some folks let the likes of RWD and Kekel control their entire life, because it is not God who is doing it. God doesn't say that he will raise the tuition of a non accredited bologna school because you spent money to try to stay in some kind of physical shape. I didn't see RWD telling Tanya and Mike to stop spending money when they were spending about $20,000 a year on Grants school, which included Grant playing football and basketball and who knows how many other physically related activities. Can't you NTCC folks see and understand what I'm saying? I'm not against you, I'm trying to point out some things that you may not be aware of because that is the purpose of this blog. I have no control of how Kekel and RWD spend their money and I'd be an idiot if I allowed them to control how I spend mine, primarily and especially because of what I know about them now. Such a double standard and such crookedness and it is plain to see. What, God holds the Kekel family to a different standard? Has God become partial? No but RWD is partial, and anyone who can't see that after reading this blog is blind. We are not making this stuff up. I have better things to do.
1/14/2010
1/12/2010
RWD Has Women Reduced To This
Just a little trivial information and something that I've noticed. NTCC women generally, are thoroughly obsessed with loosing weight, growing hair, purses, shoes, and clothes. The reason that I'm saying this is because a great deal of what NTCC women post on the internet deals with one of those areas.
Now I understand that most people like to have nice clothing to obviously include women outside of the NTCC. The main difference between these groups (women in the NTCC vs women not in the NTCC) is that women not in the NTCC quite frequently have interests other then the ones that I've listed above; and why is that? Because RWD and the NTCC leadership have reduced women to second class citizens who the NTCC teaches should have little interest in any other possessions or activities. So the result is that if you search the internet you will find that NTCC women discuss little more then loosing weight, growing hair, purses, shoes, and other clothing items; PERIOD!!! Essentially, pure undefiled vanity has become their key pursuit in life.
No goals, no objective, (other than loosing weight it seems) and no real direction other than to follow their man who lives only to follow RWD while watching both he and Kekel gain more wealth at the expense of everyone else's sacrifice. This is done only for the majority of the NTCC women to be left desolate and destitute when their husbands die with the NTCC nowhere in sight while Tanya Kekel sits fat and happy having inherited a piece of what everyone in the NTCC has ever done.
It should be an eye opener when you look at it like this because it is what it is.
Jeff
1/05/2010
R'DUBs Degree Or Lack Thereof
Mark G. wrote...
I did do some checking on R'Dubs degrees. I know all about how degrees work, especially in the field of Religion. Right now I don't have time to expound on the subject and this is not a "Dedicated Thread" for that so I'll try to stay within certain parameters. I asked the same question on Factnet 4 or 5 years ago about his so called "Degrees" and no one had a direct answer. Maybe in the future this is a subject that could be visited on this Blog site.
I did do some checking on R'Dubs degrees. I know all about how degrees work, especially in the field of Religion. Right now I don't have time to expound on the subject and this is not a "Dedicated Thread" for that so I'll try to stay within certain parameters. I asked the same question on Factnet 4 or 5 years ago about his so called "Degrees" and no one had a direct answer. Maybe in the future this is a subject that could be visited on this Blog site.
Jeff wrote...
I can use all the help I can get so I've gladly posted Mark G's statement that I pulled from a previous thread. This is a topic that had been previously discussed on a few occasions but it hasn't come up in a good while and I don't believe that it's ever come up on this blog. Is there anyone out there that can confirm whether or not RWD actually ever truly held any type of degree? One of my NTCC pastors told the brothers in the serviceman's home (including me) that RWD held a Doctorate degree of some kind ( I believe we were told theology), however there have been a good many people who have suggested that there has never been any evidence to even remotely support such a claim. Of course all responses are welcome.
Thanks Mark for a good topic,
Sincerely,
Jeff
I can use all the help I can get so I've gladly posted Mark G's statement that I pulled from a previous thread. This is a topic that had been previously discussed on a few occasions but it hasn't come up in a good while and I don't believe that it's ever come up on this blog. Is there anyone out there that can confirm whether or not RWD actually ever truly held any type of degree? One of my NTCC pastors told the brothers in the serviceman's home (including me) that RWD held a Doctorate degree of some kind ( I believe we were told theology), however there have been a good many people who have suggested that there has never been any evidence to even remotely support such a claim. Of course all responses are welcome.
Thanks Mark for a good topic,
Sincerely,
Jeff
1/04/2010
The Love Of Money and RWD
Mark G. posted this message on the previous thread and I responded. I thought it would make for a good "new" thread and of course we haven't had one for a while.
Mark G. said...
Yep....Something else that I have been thinking about is the fact that I've heard from other people (Not from him personally,or from behind the pulpit) that he asked God to make him either a Millionaire or a Multi-Millionaire. If it is true, and he did indeed ask God to do that for him then I think that in itself is a very revealing statement about himself personally.
Jeff said...
I'm glad you said that because I personally witnessed and with my "own" ears heard RWD say that he prayed to God that he, "RWD" would become a millionaire. That always left a distinct impression on my mind because it made a few things obvious.
First, RWDs statement made it obvious that number one and most importantly, RWD wasn't already a millionaire when he made that prayer to God. Secondly and quite important as well, he is a seriously materialistic dude. I don't blame him for being materialistic but it proves that he is not as super spiritual as some have suggested because we know that the love of money is the root of "all" evil. RWD definitely loves money or he wouldn't have prayed for it and then openly stated that he prayed for money in front of hundreds of people in that sanctuary.
The reason that it's significant that he wasn't already a millionaire is because NTCC loyalists like to claim that RDUB didn't get his riches through the ministry and from the church people. Well that notion is a complete lie. Yes he made good investments, and yes he made good real-estate purchases but the money that it took to make those investments and purchases came from a bunch of struggling church folks in the NTCC without doubt. RWD gained his riches through greed and at the expense of his minister's and church member's sacrifice. We know this because the money had to come from somewhere and we know he wasn't "already" a millionaire when he made that prayer. Why would someone pray to become a millionaire if they already were a millionaire? They wouldn't.
When RWD made that statement, it showed me a lot about his character and his organization. According to the Bible, Solomon didn't even make such a prayer and the Bible emphasized that fact quite clearly. RWD is a money hungry blow hard who makes no apologies for that fact, and he doesn't care if his ministers have struggled so that he could achieve that goal, and they most certainly have. Now Kekel is the same way and you NTCC guys are being duped to live in poverty while those two guys just get more rich off of your efforts.
Get your very own church building and stop sending money up to Graham and stop placing money into an escrow account that you have no control over.
Jeff Collins
Mark G. said...
Yep....Something else that I have been thinking about is the fact that I've heard from other people (Not from him personally,or from behind the pulpit) that he asked God to make him either a Millionaire or a Multi-Millionaire. If it is true, and he did indeed ask God to do that for him then I think that in itself is a very revealing statement about himself personally.
Jeff said...
I'm glad you said that because I personally witnessed and with my "own" ears heard RWD say that he prayed to God that he, "RWD" would become a millionaire. That always left a distinct impression on my mind because it made a few things obvious.
First, RWDs statement made it obvious that number one and most importantly, RWD wasn't already a millionaire when he made that prayer to God. Secondly and quite important as well, he is a seriously materialistic dude. I don't blame him for being materialistic but it proves that he is not as super spiritual as some have suggested because we know that the love of money is the root of "all" evil. RWD definitely loves money or he wouldn't have prayed for it and then openly stated that he prayed for money in front of hundreds of people in that sanctuary.
The reason that it's significant that he wasn't already a millionaire is because NTCC loyalists like to claim that RDUB didn't get his riches through the ministry and from the church people. Well that notion is a complete lie. Yes he made good investments, and yes he made good real-estate purchases but the money that it took to make those investments and purchases came from a bunch of struggling church folks in the NTCC without doubt. RWD gained his riches through greed and at the expense of his minister's and church member's sacrifice. We know this because the money had to come from somewhere and we know he wasn't "already" a millionaire when he made that prayer. Why would someone pray to become a millionaire if they already were a millionaire? They wouldn't.
When RWD made that statement, it showed me a lot about his character and his organization. According to the Bible, Solomon didn't even make such a prayer and the Bible emphasized that fact quite clearly. RWD is a money hungry blow hard who makes no apologies for that fact, and he doesn't care if his ministers have struggled so that he could achieve that goal, and they most certainly have. Now Kekel is the same way and you NTCC guys are being duped to live in poverty while those two guys just get more rich off of your efforts.
Get your very own church building and stop sending money up to Graham and stop placing money into an escrow account that you have no control over.
Jeff Collins
1/03/2010
Have A Happy New Year
Hopefully this year will bring new opportunities and blessings to all. My family is doing fine while continuing to make forward progress. We went out to dinner this evening with another couple who also used to be in the NTCC. We had a very enjoyable evening, we ate some tasty food, and then we went to a store where I bought my wife a present which she likes very much. It made me happy to give here a nice gift that she really wanted while watching her smile.
It truly is better to give than to receive and that is a lesson which I'm sure Mike Kekel and RWD would do well to learn. Unfortunately it is unlikely that will ever happen because they believe that everyone is supposed to give to them, not visa versa. You know; the old take care of the "man of GAWD" trip. I think they've been taken care of for long enough but what do I know? I guess it wouldn't hurt for another thousand sisters or so to go and clean Kekels house don't you think? While they are at it, make sure that if old RWD comes to visit, you pay for all his lodging arrangements and food. How could he possibly remain a multi-millionaire if a bunch of struggling church members don't continue to provide for him every time he comes to visit their church? It would be an absolute shame if they let old RDUB pay for himself!!!
For that matter everyone needs to make sure they financially cover all the overseers when they come to visit. The NTCC INC couldn't possibly have enough money to take care of their own overseers as they travel across the country. Didn't you know that it takes a lot of capital for the continual upkeep of the RWD and Kekel estates? How could there be any money left? Let's not forget about what it costs to raise the son of the NTCC CEO especially when he has to attend a very upscale grade school academy that costs more for yearly tuition than the average college.
I guess I should feel guilty for taking care of my family while watching people like RWD struggle so much because of their extreme sacrifice which is a direct result of them coming to visit your church. Everyone needs to start taking up the offerings now in preparation for the visits from the "men of GAWD".
Jeff
It truly is better to give than to receive and that is a lesson which I'm sure Mike Kekel and RWD would do well to learn. Unfortunately it is unlikely that will ever happen because they believe that everyone is supposed to give to them, not visa versa. You know; the old take care of the "man of GAWD" trip. I think they've been taken care of for long enough but what do I know? I guess it wouldn't hurt for another thousand sisters or so to go and clean Kekels house don't you think? While they are at it, make sure that if old RWD comes to visit, you pay for all his lodging arrangements and food. How could he possibly remain a multi-millionaire if a bunch of struggling church members don't continue to provide for him every time he comes to visit their church? It would be an absolute shame if they let old RDUB pay for himself!!!
For that matter everyone needs to make sure they financially cover all the overseers when they come to visit. The NTCC INC couldn't possibly have enough money to take care of their own overseers as they travel across the country. Didn't you know that it takes a lot of capital for the continual upkeep of the RWD and Kekel estates? How could there be any money left? Let's not forget about what it costs to raise the son of the NTCC CEO especially when he has to attend a very upscale grade school academy that costs more for yearly tuition than the average college.
I guess I should feel guilty for taking care of my family while watching people like RWD struggle so much because of their extreme sacrifice which is a direct result of them coming to visit your church. Everyone needs to start taking up the offerings now in preparation for the visits from the "men of GAWD".
Jeff
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