The Irony Of It All

Yes SIR!!! I'll follow your rules but first, can I go back to pick up my brain? Maybe I can figure out where I left it?

The word is, Kekel took down many of the threads which he had previously posted on his own blog. I guess old Mikey decided (or it was decided for him) that much of his propaganda was not good at helping the NTCC's cause.

Which ever the case much of the data would appear to have been removed, away from the public eye. It doesn't surprise me. He did make old RDub look pretty bad with the "Ain't Misbehaven" thread. Mike basically said that he never supported certain rules which old RDub had initiated. Before the information became un-viewable, here is some of what Mike wrote:

"I do not make the rules, and have only recently had opportunity to affect them. In the past I have only been in the unfortunate position of having to enforce them. That doesn't mean I agreed with them. If so be they were mistakes, they weren't mine. As for the church organization? I have nothing to do with policies and doctrines of the organization concerning things like TV (which ministers aren't to have if they carry license in NTCC- unless it is solely as a gaming monitor or something, and not connected to TV input) and couldn't change them if I wanted to. If that gets changed, Rev. Olson will have to do it by mandate or through board approval. I have no such power. Even in the Bible School realm I am limited."

Jeff said...

Look at what Kekel wrote. He wrote that he was in the "unfortunate position" of having to enforce the rules. WOW!!!!! He should have just slapped old RDub in the face with that statement. Then Mike wrote that it didn't mean that he agreed with the rules. In other words he didn't. What Mike was saying is that he didn't agree with his father in law because let's face it, RDub is the one who came up with the stupid rules in the first place. Now Kekel is openly stating that even though they were in fact NTCC rules, it didn't mean he agreed with them. Well isn't that a novel concept. Kekel doesn't agreed with God? Isn't RWD and the General Board supposed to be considered men of God? In conference I heard RWD say, "if you have a problem with me you have a problem with God". Well it's obvious that Kekel had and has a problem with RWD's rules. None of us could have gotten away with that one. That is nepotism at it's best. Then Mike suggested that the rules may have been quote "mistakes". I didn't know that God made mistakes because surely RWD had openly stated that he'd never missed God and everything he did had been directed by the Holy Ghost. Then Mike said that he had quote "NOTHING" to do with certain policies and doctrines of the organization. The bottom line is that Mike Kekel (in writing) dogged his father in law, the NTCC leadership and the organization. I don't know how you could look at it any other way.

Then Mike wrote...

"My influence on the bible school rules has only been to lighten them, not increase them. Further, since I wasn't a bible school student during that time, I was not UNDER those rules. The sports rule was not bible based to begin with, and was for bible school students. Not me."

Jeff said...

So Kekel is admitting here that the rules were too stringent hence the need to, and I quote, "lighten them". Boy that sure does put old RDub's and the general boards decision making abilities in question. Mike said that "the sports rule was not bible based to begin with." So I wonder what rule these control mongers have come up with over the years that have been quote "Bible based"? Mike said the sports rule wasn't for him. I guess the NTCC leadership forgot to tell their sorry abusive pastors (who'd incidentally had been taught by the NTCC leadership), that the rules against organized sports participation shouldn't apply to church members either. They sure preached against it enough, I can tell you that. The fact is at this point, any sensible person should question every decision, standard and or rule that anyone in the NTCC leadership ever came up with.

I don't believe in following some bogus guidance that Kekel has clearly pointed out isn't and wasn't Bible based to begin with. I don't know how you NTCCers can stick around and follow these control mongers who's decision making abilities are clearly in question here. I'd rather follow a blind, three legged dog if I was blind also. I'd make it a whole lot further in life. How in the world can an intelligent person deny what I've just typed? I didn't write Kekel's statements, he did, and they just confirmed what I've been saying all along. What do I know, I'm just a bitter, hater who turned down the opportunity to attend the NTCC's "SCHOOL OF RULES" who an NTCC pastor said of me that "my house meant more to me than the calling of GAWD". Well knowing what I know now, I'd rather follow someone who "called" me to shovel crap than attend a non accredited school full of ridiculous rules that according Kekel himself aren't even Bible based to begin with. Get some of that. Above and highlighted in red are some excerpts of what Kekel decided to remove from his blog. When are you NTCCers going to wake up out of your slumber. Thank God that he gave me the fortitude and clearness of sight and mind to leave the NTCC, move on with my life, and get it back in the right direction. Nothing wrong with following Jesus but the NTCC leadership is corrupt and self serving and this blog is full of evidence which proves as such.

Jeff

The Split, Ron Denis, And A Bunch Of Morally Weak NTCC Ministers

The NTCC leadership didn't have a problem with him as long as Denis pushed one of these to Graham after every church service. He was the greatest but then came the spit.

Thread originally posted on 4-10-09

Thread #15 I don’t even know where to begin but here we go. When the split took place I was attending church services with the NTCC in Columbus Georgia. Columbus Georgia was significant where the split was concerned because Ron Denis had spent a substantial amount of time in Columbus during a few month period leading right up to the day of the Split. Denis was doing much of his departure planning in and around Savannah Georgia at that time which resulted in him going back and forth to Columbus because it was close. J. Hunt was the pastor of the Columbus church and he had direct knowledge of certain split plans and preparations that Denis had made prior to the event ever taking place.

What's interesting here is that Hunt always, without exception, had only great things to say about Denis prior to Denis leaving the NTCC. I know; I was in his church. I must emphasize that J. Hunt the pastor in Columbus and S. Mayers the pastor in Atlanta would speak so very, very highly of Denis and they would always place Denis on an enormous pedestal. To them Denis was the man; he was great; he was the ultimate leader; he was a great example of what we all should have strived to be as Christians. In fact I had never heard anyone EVER speak a single negative word against Denis prior to him leaving the NTCC. RWD obviously thought he was great because RWD strongly influenced the general board to promote Denis to not only the Director of all Servicemen’s Homes but also to Overseer, which are two very significant positions for a minister to hold within the NTCC.

Then all of a sudden the split takes place, and it is such a significant event that it rocked the very foundations of the NTCC. J. Hunt told us, his church members, while in his church building, that he knew that the split was going to take place but he elected not to tell anyone to include RWD. Why?

M.D. Reed and I lived in the servicemen’s home together at Ft. Hood Texas in 1985 and we were friends. I mentioned that so you understand our association with each other as close friends and brothers living in the same servicemen’s home together. While I was at conference and I must note; after the split, Matthew Reed told me that he hadn’t liked Denis one bit and they actually had a verbal altercation with each other.  I talked to M. Kekel on the phone approximately one month ago and he told me that he didn’t like Denis one bit but yet his own father in law, RWD continued to promote Denis right up to the end. Why? L.D. Jones told me over dinner one day in Columbus that he didn’t care for Denis but he also elected to keep his mouth shut. Why?

Because other than Kekel, they were all scared of getting blacklisted by RWD and his henchmen. The one important thing to note here is that these people that I mentioned had no problem talking bad about Denis to me, but they didn’t do so until after Denis had left the NTCC. I guarantee had I asked any of them, they would have either said nothing or they would have had only good things to say about Denis prior to his departure. This isn’t speculation because as I've already stated, some of these folks always said only great things about Denis prior to his departure. Of course Denis convinced a whole bunch of folks to include ministers to go along with him when he left the NTCC but this does not change the fact than NO ONE kicked Denis out of the NTCC; he simply left on his own. If Denis was as bad as all these influential NTCC folks only NOW say he was, why did he just keep getting promoted and why wasn't anything ever done about his alleged abusive practices. That dude kept doing his own thing with RWDs and the General Boards stamp of approval right up until the day he left the NTCC. Had Denis not left on his own he would still be in the NTCC and no one would be talking all this trash. You all need to quit making Denis out to be the only guilty party because Denis only served where he did because RWD and the General Board put him there. PERIOD!!!

So what does this tell you? That not only are NTCC ministers morally weak unlike Mordecai, but if what they said they felt about Denis is even true, they were all scared to say anything to Olson or RWD because they are afraid to be considered jealous or they are afraid to get blacklisted as has happened to so many of their fellow NTCC ministers before. I happen to know this is also true because I was told this by at least three of the people that I mentioned above. That may not have been exactly the way they said it to me, but that is exactly what they were saying. RWD leads explicitly by fear and that folks it the worse type of leadership that can exist in any unit or organization. To fear God is healthy but to lead your church by teaching them to fear you is sorry leadership.

Denis may be a crook, (just like so many NTCC pastors) but I got sick and tired of hearing weak NTCC ministers talk bad about Denis because they weren't saying that junk while he was there. So many of you are using Denis as a scapegoat to help explain away all your abusive practices as if Denis didn’t learn these things from RWD himself. All that I ever here from NTCC ministers is how bad Denis was and now he is gone, but you weren’t saying that before he left. Don't forget NTCC ministers, it wasn't anything that you did which resulted in Denis leaving because you are weak. Never forget that Denis LEFT ON HIS OWN because you were too weak to tell someone of your supposed grievance with Denis. RWD and Olson were two ineffective leaders anyway who are too insecure to have listened to you or they just didn't care because Denis had brought in so much money to their greedy organization. They weren't willing to part with such a financial asset as Ron Denis hence the picture posted up above. 

One last thing: Please don't anyone insult me by suggesting that God set up Denis’ departure because that is the excuse that you guys give every time to justify your failures. Denis was a free moral agent who left the NTCC willfully and totally on his own.