The Blogs And The NTCCs Inability To Cover-up The Facts

I thought it was interesting how this hit counters recent visitors map suddenly shifted from all over the U.S. to a much more centralized region somewhere around the middle Missouri area. Imagine that. Couldn't be because of conference hey? I just can't imagine that many NTCC folks essentially betraying Mike and the good old org just to read my ex-er hater blog. It certainly would seem to be the case if you've followed my good old hit counter.

Maybe Mike and old RWD don't have quite the grip on those folks that they'd prefer? I wonder how many folks Mike and RWD ran off this conference? There has been a little pressure on the org with the Shunks starting a blog and the reporter hanging around.

Come on. You've got to admit that it is a weird mind set for all these guys who are trying to marry off their teen age daughters to do no more than live a life of poverty and struggle. Folks need to stop trying to be so spiritual and see things for what they really are. The NTCC has got you duped. My daughter is going to college. Do you think Mikes son will be doing any different? Time will tell won't it. I may very well be wrong but based on the Kekels history I somehow doubt it. Can you blame them? I may not care for Mike but he ain't no dummy. You think he is going to send his son through the NTCS? If he does he will sure prove me wrong but I highly doubt it.

It's probably going to go something like this. Someone is going to come on any number of different blogs and complain about how Kekel's son is attending a secular college after they were guilt tripped into sending their child through the NTCS. Then Mike is going to start a thread about folks not "listening" and misinterpreting what RWD has been putting out for years. Then he'll say he prayed about it and it seemed good to the Lord that GK attend Duke or Yale or a Military Academy or something like that. Then he will say that everyone else who "thought" their child had to attend the NTCS were no more than a bunch of knot heads.

Jeff

The False Prophet

Mike Kekel wrote this statement on his blog...

"I remember a certain prayer meeting at old Forest Ave., where I was down at the altar. We were all praying in the dimly lit chapel and God was moving; Debbie Blumenthal was right on the other side, praying in tongues. We were pouring our hearts out, and I noticed her sincerity most of all. I still believe she had something from God."

Jeff wrote...

Mike wrote quite a bit during his tirade toward Greg Shunk. The particular part above, highlighted in red, really caught my attention. I'm guessing that many people overlooked that small portion of his long statement, but it really stood out to me as a testament to Mike Kekel's character and psyche.

The first thing it tells me is that Mike has quite a high opinion of himself. Overblown to say the least. I wonder why Mike is so naive that he quite obviously seems to believe that he should actually be considered some kind of spiritual critic just because he married the big guy's daughter? The second thing it tells me is that Mike considers himself some kind of spiritual analyst. What qualifies Mike to make determinations concerning whether or not someone had quote, "something from God"? The fact that his father in law has systematically promoted him to head honcho henchman of the NTCC? I'm no spiritual guru and don't claim to be, but I doubt that Mike has quote "something from God". Mike wouldn't be in that position if he hadn't married the corporate head's daughter. So because RWD gave Mike preferential treatment, that qualifies him to be some kind of spiritual analyst? I don't think so and hence the title of this thread. The false prophet. That title fits him more suitably.

According to about 40 years of NTCC standards, Kekel is about as worldly as they get. So what you have is an egotistical, pomps, dude that is fooling himself and he works hard to learn how to attempt to fool others. I'm not fooled. Mike Kekel is no more qualified to evaluate Deb Shunk's former spiritual condition than I am to evaluate the structural rigidity of the golden gate bridge. Mike Kekel may have put in many hours in an attempt to continually control folks lives but we all know that didn't get him to the position he is in. His daddy in law did; plain and simple, and anyone who thinks differently can be the first to test out the strength of the bridge that I'm getting ready to build.

The next issue. Mike wrote...

"He began to obsess about what would happen to his wife if he died, would the church support her. No NTCC answer was given to such a foolish and unlearned question."

Jeff wrote...

What on Gods green earth is so quote "foolish and unlearned" about that question? Mike Kekel is living in the wonderland that has been prepared by his daddy in law so he is unable and unsuitable to even attempt to relate with such a concern. The NTCC is not even interested in taking care of widows so to Mike that would be a foolish question but to Greg who didn't get handed a silver spoon that is a legitimate concern. It's a legitimate concern for me also and I decided that I would no longer put any faith in the NTCC leadership because the only folks they are worried about taking care of is themselves. Even after they've ran you into the ground. It's good to know that Mike thinks it's foolish and unlearned for someone to be concerned about their wives well being.

How is Sis Espinoza doing? I rest my case. She certainly ain't living like the Kekels but I forgot, that was all her husbands fault, right? You know that she had to go find a job and all, getting paid probably around minimum wage? Foolish and unlearned hey? As usual what a bunch of garbage.

Jeff

Now You Have The Rest Of The Story

On Mike Kekel's blog Mike Kekel wrote...

"**No April,that is a fallacy. We maintain accurate records of the monthly support sent to Missionaries, and none of them have ever been forgotten. If you are referring to Casey Hayes and some of the things he said on Jeff Collins' Blog, no wonder. He wasn't forgotten, he was receiving support from the org AND WORKING a job, and still told everyone he was starving there. He tried to push the Cespedes' into "upgrading" their life and spending money on better furniture, criticizing their things, while he was moving to the "highlands" and putting his kids in the nicest music schools, etc. He NEVER got a building, never started a church, in all those years. The other Bro and Sis didn't get that, so they started their own thing and had a building, services and people in a few months. Casey Hayes stayed there in Puerto Rico for a few more years, and only went to their services ONCE. He wouldn't even go to church with them. He was flying to Florida with the boss, and golfing, etc. So now, how is that NTCC's fault? He should have been cut off really, but who knew? When he got back here, he told me he'd never seen such an outpouring of love. He posted to Collins' Blog that he saw NO love. Uh..? When the support money ran out, (money raised from NTCC people for Casey's endeavors,) it went red to the tune of 40k, just to keep it going. Now someone doesn't know what they are saying. What you call NTCC Fog, is the clouds that you see, and we're up above them in the sunshine."

Jeff responded with facts....

I talked to Casey Hayes and found out that some of what Mike Kekel wrote about him was ABSOLUTE lies. Now there are four possible options here. Either Mike Kekel willfully wrote an outright lie, or Mike Kekel was told an outright lie, or the story became an outright lie after it became completely distorted due to the grape vine, or Mike Kekel's recollection absolutely stinks and through simple minded ignorance he tells outright lies. Which ever the case, Mike Kekel wrote absolute falsehoods i.e. lies about Casey Hayes.

I asked Casey FOUR times if he played Golf in Florida and he absolutely said NO. I asked Casey so many times that it almost became insulting to him. I literally questioned him because I wanted true facts and I listened very carefully to his answers. He said that he never played golf even one time during the entire time he was in Puerto Rico or anywhere else say no less Florida. Casey simply did not play golf during the entire time-frame which was referenced by Mike Kekel so what Mike Kekel wrote was an an outright lie.

Casey also said that he suggested to the Cespedes that they "DIDN'T" spend their money, not the other way around so that was also an outright lie. He said that he suggested that they hold on to their money because it was expensive to live in Puerto Rico. Mike got that one completely backwards. Mike said that Casey had his children in the quote "nicest" music schools and Casey said that that his daughter was in a public school that taught music and the school was absolutely free unlike the school that Grant Kekel goes to at a cost of approximately $20,000 a year. You want to talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Mike Kekel said that the Cespedes got a building and services started but what Mike didn't tell you is that the Cespedes showed up to Puerto Rico with well over $10,000 at their disposal. According to Casey the amount reported to him was $14,000 that the Cespedes showed up with but don't take that to the bank because if the amount was actually $14,175 then Mike Kekel would get all rapped up with semantics and say that Casey was a liar so just know that the Cespedes showed up with a bunch of money that Casey Hayes didn't have. Therefore it shouldn't come as any surprise that the Cespedes were able to "AFFORD" a building. I don't know if the money was their own money or given by the NTCC, but the fact is that they reported to Casey that they showed up with about $14,000 US Dollars.

If you know Casey Hayes you know that he is one of the most happy go lucky guys that you will ever meet and he is very easy to get along with and Casey said that the Cespedes didn't even want to fellowship with Casey and his family so naturally Casey didn't want anything to do with them either. This next part is part speculation but I'm convinced that the NTCC leadership no doubt told the Cespedes that Casey was considered by them to be a dead beat so it comes as no surprise that the Cespedes showed up to Puerto Rico with a chip on their shoulder under the notion that they were sent there to save the day.

The NTCC is full of ministers that according to their controlling standards never did anything for God but the people they slander and smear are the ones who have left. Oberhauser received a congregation from Hunt of approximately 70 - 80 people or more and Oberhauser successfully knocked the congregation down to about 10 or less because of his lack of leadership skills while listening to Briggs poor guidance. I don't see Kekel starting a thread to discredit him? If he left the NTCC and had anything bad to say about the leadership then Kekel would slam him also. Tell me I'm lying? The only people who Mike writes about by name in a negative manner are the people who leave!!!! Go figure that one. Now you got the "Rest Of The Story".

Kekel simply wrote lies. Much of what Mike wrote wasn't even half truths and the majority of what remained was little more at best then a half truth. The only thing he wrote that was true is that Casey wasn't successful at building a church. Well join the club because that ain't no strange occurrence in the NTCC. Casey wanted to go to Connecticut in the first place anyway and RWD wouldn't have it because Casey had family that lived in the area. If the NTCC leadership wasn't so lousy they wouldn't have sent Casey there in the first place. Casey had been with the NTCC for about 20 years and they hadn't figured out yet that he wasn't some super pioneer church builder? Casey is one of my best friends but it is what it is and that is not an insult. The NTCC leadership dropped the ball on that one so they shouldn't blame their placement error on anyone but themselves. Oh I almost forgot; I thought it was God who told RWD to send Casey there in the first place. I guess God is the one who messed up. RWD better stop asking God where to send his people because in the case of Casey Hayes, according to Mike Kekel a mistake must have been made.

Get some of that Mikey and I didn't get it from the old devil either. You make the devil a whole lot more happy than I do. The devil wishes that I would shut down this blog because he likes the fact that you guys are misleading so many people with all your kooky rules that we are regularly exposing right here. We are messing up the devils game. I took that page right out of your NTCC super spiritual rhetoric book.

Jeff

Even More From The Dispatch

Don't let your eyes get too wide with this one but when I thought I'd seen it all, yet another good article has been written by Bruce at "The Dispatch". Justice is slow but it's sure.

Here is the link below. By all means leave your comments at The Dispatch if you want to add anything to the good article which has been written by Bruce.

It's amazing what a little persistence can accomplish when the right people put their nose to the mission. It is nice to taste the fruit of our labors and we can accomplish a lot when we work together. The NTCC could divert much or all of this negative publicity if their leaders would suck up their pride and apologize for all the hurt they've caused so many. I expect that is unlikely to happen.

http://www.dispatchnews.com/main.asp?Search=1&ArticleID=2578&SectionID=6&SubSectionID=6&S=1

Jeff

True Racism At It's Best Coming Directly To You From The Church Behind The Fence

Abraham Lincoln would be very unhappy about this one. I thought this type of racist conduct was on the way out the door and especially in churches, but hardly is the case where the NTCC is concerned.

Monique Navarro wrote...

I would like to confirm that what John D. stated about comments made about African Americans over the pulpit is correct. I am African American myself and have often heard racist comments being made about Blacks. Many of us have personally seen him make monkey gestures during one of his sermons as he stated that "hip hop music is "monkey music." I have also heard negative comments being made about African American women wearing braids and about mixed marriages. I have had a questionable experience in which a church member noticing my grandparents nice home asked how a "nigger got a house like that?"

When I brought this issue to Rev. Kekel's attention it was swept under the rug. He made it appear as if I was the one in the wrong. He personally told me that, "I shouldn't have gotten offended." He would just tell people that I had heart issues.

Sir we can't all be wrong. There are way too many in agreement that have left NTCC. Honestly sir, it looks to me like the only one with a heart issue is Rev. Kekel himself. I believed that this man loved me and my family. He destroyed my belief in him and in their organization. I and my family have since left. We are attending a new church where we are valued. God knows that what many are saying is true and we are not just "bitter people looking for revenge." What would be the point in doing that? That would be fruitless. Many of us are hoping to spare others a "look behind the fence". We that have left all know what goes on behind the fence and it isn't pretty. Save yourself the gas, the time and the money and don't bother visiting this church.

Jeff said...

As usual that is another "Real Story" about life in the NTCC. I suppose this lady is lying as well. Do you think? I copied this excerpt from "The Dispatch" and pasted it here on this blog. A link to the dispatch can be found in the thread immediately below. This is yet another example of one of the many reasons why I left the NTCC and why this blog exists. The NTCC leadership "OWES" folks some serious apologies with Monique not being the least of which who's deserving one. Unfortunately it will probably never happen. All fancy rhetoric aside; it really is sad when this type of conduct exists in what is supposed to be a Christian church. The NTCC leadership should be ashamed while making dire attempts to rectify and fix this highly unhealthy and hurtful situation that clearly exists within their corporation / organization.

Jeff

More From The Dispatch

Below is link to the second article about the NTCC printed in "The Dispatch", a South Pierce County Washington news paper. Looks like old Bruce (who wrote the article) took a heat round from Phil Kinson while attending service with the NTCC. That is a typical NTCC tactic and it's childish. Phil took Bruce's presents as an opportunity to take a cheap shop at journalists. I've seen NTCC pastors use that tactic so many times that it is utterly sickening. So I suppose that's how to win folks to Christ? What a joke is all I can say.

The next article will address folks opinion of the NTCC as a cult and I'm interested to see what is written.

http://www.dispatchnews.com/main.asp?SectionID=6&SubSectionID=6&ArticleID=2569&TM=63829.67

Jeff