Wow!!!! Read What Appears When You Click On The Link Below

Just click on the link below. There is not much else that I can say. It's clean, don't worry. I don't post inappropriate trash, never have.

http://newtestamentchristianchurchdebswtnss.blogspot.com/2010/10/ntcc-lies-and-broken-promises-ntcc.html

Jeff

To Halloween Or Not To Halloween Is The Question

There have been extensive discussions on another thread concerning this topic. The discussions began to inundate the thread so I decided to transfer the data here. Some folks believe that observing holiday's like Halloween and Christmas are quite pagan in nature, and others don't see a problem with it. I personally could care less one way or the other which is why I didn't chime in on the discussion. For once I'm a neutral party otherwise known as a "politician". I'm usually very opinionated but in this case I'm not. All posts pertaining to this topic have been transfered here from the other thread.
Jeff

Oh The Drama And The Propaganda

Extra, Extra, read all about it. A daring rescue was made which saved an NTCC pastor from impending doom and FIRE! All you "had" to do is go to Pastor Briggs blog to read the article. Since then Pastor Briggs set the article so that you have to sign in to read it. After I posted this thread, his article stayed up for about one day before Pastor Briggs set his website requiring people to sign in to read the article. Apparently Pastor Briggs was considering resigning his position as an NTCC pastor, or leaving the NTCC altogether, or both. If someone really wants to serve God there are plenty of places to go. He made it out like R DUB and Olson saved the day?

If they'd convinced me to stay with the NTCC, (knowing what I know now) they'd have ruined my day. It would have been the same as getting thrown back into the fire. Many of us know that life is a whole lot better now that we are no longer with the NTCC.

Who knows? Maybe one day Pastor Briggs will realize what the NTCC is truly all about. The fact is, now the NTCC leadership thinks Pastor is wishy washy if they didn't already. The NTCC "leadership" (if that's what you wan't to call em) have been around long enough to know that when you start thinking about quiting the NTCC, those thoughts don't just go away. Maybe Pastor Briggs will come around, stop being double minded and face the facts. I think he's starting to come to his senses.

When my wife and I finally had enough of the NTCC's crap, a pack of wild dogs wouldn't have turned us back to that cesspool. I knew what I'd witnessed in the NTCC and I'd had enough. Now when I run into those NTCC folks I usually give them a piece of my mind. Isn't that what they did practically every time they got behind the pulpit? Give folks in their congregation a piece of their mind? Well now it's my turn hence one of the purposes of this blog. This is our pulpit and we're not tired yet, are you tired? NOOooooo, I'm not tired yet. Just so people know, I generally don't read Pastor Briggs blog but someone else tipped me off to his article.

Jeff

You've Got To Be Kidding Me!

Either the official NTCC website is wrong or the Atlanta church is down to only 2 services a week. You've got to be kidding me. Mr. Mayers would have placed us in guaranteed hell if we only made 2 services per week while my family was in the Atlanta church. Guaranteed HELL!!!! Do not pass go and do not collect $200. Blasted, belittled, raked over the coals, benched, blacklisted and shunned and that is just where the list starts. For the 18 months that my family attended the so called "church" in Atlanta we were in boot camp and Mayers was a hard, cold drill sergeant. I actually don't blame him. He was taught that garbage at the school of rules and he closely followed RWD and Olson's guidance. For the most part Mayers didn't think that garbage up on his own and of that I'm convinced. Kekel and Hunt like to blame Mayers but Mayers followed the NTCC leadership's guidance far more closely than Kekel ever dreamed of. Mayers messed up because he trusted Olson and RWD and he listened to other abusive NTCC pastors.

I can't tell you how many times he raked my wife and I for some of the most nitpicken stuff which he learned at the NTCCs seminary otherwise know as the school of rules. Once again the NTCCs official website shows that services are being conducted only on Thursdays and ONCE on Sunday. Church appears to be held in a hotel from what I can tell looking at google earth which means they are going backward. It used to be in a store front for years. 1230 Sunday service is probably the only time the hotel will let them have the room. I wonder if Olson is still saying, "Were winning" because he must have said that at least 25 times while he was in Atlanta.

Buddy the more I dig around the more sickening it gets. I can't tell you how much money was put into that store front. Cantrell busted his butt totally remodeling it and my wife painted the nursery. We worked our tails off putting the pews in and it was all for NOTHING. Everyone got ran off and rather than upgrading to a stand alone building they appear to have down graded to a hotel or the NTCCs official website is dead wrong. There was a time you couldn't have convinced me that I'd see this day but nothing surprises me anymore with the NTCC. This is crazy. Only two services a week? I explicitly remember one night that S. Mayers was bragging to me about how much more progress he was making than other NTCC ministers in such a short period of time and I never forgot that. It would appear as though all his progress has reversed. When will people learn. Believe it or not this is actually sad for me to see because many people wasted a lot of time and money for the church in Atlanta. It is Pergamos and Laodicea put together. The NTCC will never learn but what do I know. I was just a church member. The facts speak for themselves.

Jeff

More Of The Same Psychological Garbage

Mike Kekel recently wrote on his blog that God, "moved incredibly again and in much the same way" during conference. How did God move? Did he ease around the sanctuary? Did God jump around or did God walk up the isle? I'll tell you what I think. Just more of the same mumbo jumbo religious rhetoric. If I've heard someone in the New Testament Christian Church say, "God moved" once, I've heard them say "God moved" ten thousand times. Think about it people. "Boy did God move during the service". "Boy, God sure did move tonight"!

Folks I'm past all that rhetoric. I'll tell you when God moved. On mount Sinai or when the Hebrews crossed the Red sea, of when Jesus came up out of the water and people heard an AUDIBLE voice proclaiming, "this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased." Religious people working themselves up into an emotional frenzy does not by any means necessarily mean that God moved anywhere!!!! Especially all the times that I've heard NTCC people use that same exact jargon. God moved, God moved, God moved, God moved. Stop saying that and wait for a real true appearance from God and you might get something other than an emotional outburst. There get some of that!!!

Then later Mike wrote...

People whose heart is perfect toward God want to be there, and God always makes a way, and rewards such, that they don't leave disappointed!

Jeff said...

What a bunch of psychological trash. Oh really? So if they don't want to be there that means that their hearts aren't perfect toward God? Is sleeping in a tent or a slummy motel room while Mike is living high on the hog the same as God making a way? Is leaving conference broke or without a job because in order to attend you had to quit your job? Is that the same as God making a way? I remember RWD stand up and sing Bro Saunders praises because he quit his job to attend conference. I remember folks at conference who were monetarily broke. Is that God making a way? I remember folks with vehicles broke down while Mike Kekel was riding fat in his RV and that was supposed to be God making a way? I know of a pastor who had to ride back with a brother because his vehicle was broke down and that was God making a way? According to Mike Kekels train of thought if you were still breathing that mean that God made a way. That is a bunch of psychological crap used for no other reason than to make you feel better about being broke or broke down or sleeping in a tent just so you could attend conference so that Mike could tell you your heart was perfect toward God.

Why does God even have to make a way. Capitalism, which the NTCC leaders preach to justify their wealth at your expense is anything but God making a way. Capitalism is about you making a way and managing your money so you can do things like attend conferences without worrying about God having to quote, "make a way". Kekel ain't worried about God having to make a way. As long as all your money keeps rolling up hill in the NTCC Kekel doesn't have to worry about anything. Go to Kekel and say, "Hey Mike, maybe God will make a way for you to attend the next conference", and he will look at you like you are out of your mind. RWD and Kekel have folks in the NTCC so brainwashed that it is mind boggling. So there is no misunderstanding I understand that God looks out for people whether they have money or not. That is not my point and I know what Mike was talking about. Having enough Money!!! Someone with tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars isn't worried about having enough money to make it to conference because money is not an issue. However someone who is broke is worried about it and the problem is that 95% of NTCCers who are broke are broke because the NTCC system is set up in a way that keeps them broke. It's also set up to keep Mike and Tanya swimming in dough.

Oh I get it. So If your heart is perfect, God will make a way so that you can feel him move like he always does during the NTCC conferences right? God just gets a little stiff in between conferences because during those times he doesn't move that much. It's time for me to sign off before I throw up.

Jeff