Norman Schwarzkopf, A Truly Great American

Today a truly great American has passed away.  General Norman Schwarzkopf was a Vietnam and Gulf War Veteran.  He was awarded the Purple Heart (One Oak Leaf Cluster), Silver Star (Two Oak Leaf Clusters), and Bronze Star (With V device for Valor and Two Oak Leaf Clusters) just to mention a few.  He was a great Soldier and once again a truly great American and it was an honor to serve under his command during the Gulf War.  General Schwarzkoph knew the meaning of sacrifice having put his life in eminent grave danger for the sake of his troops.   We lost an outstanding Soldier and a great American today and I felt compelled to pay my respects here on this blog.  May he rest in peace.

Below is a link to his Bio for all who might be interested in reading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Schwarzkopf,_Jr.

A Little Tidbit Of Information About Mike Kekel's Blog

 Originally posted 3/15/2010

Thread #10    Mike Kekel has propagated the notion that his blog was created for the purpose of uplifting and edifying the reader and his blog was not created for the purpose of attacking exntcc people in any way because good old holy Mike and his loyal followers would never do anything like that.  Mike and his followers suggest that they have no bitterness towards us exntccers  but they regularly claim that we are the bitter, evil haters.

In all actuality, Mike Kekel knows that his so called "edifying, good natured, uplifting blog" as anything but edifying or uplifting. In fact; to take it a step further, Mister holier than thou Mike Kekel, the man who claims to have all good intentions does not have holy intentions at all where his blog is concerned and I am going to prove it. 

Mike Kekel created his blog as a direct equalizer / counter to Brian Pelfrey's blog which is titled "ntccXposed". For that matter, Mike Kekel created his blog as an equalizer to every exNTCC blog to include this one. The only difference between Brian and Mike, is Brian did not try to hide his true intentions when he created his website but Mike did. Brian Pelfrey’s clearly stated intention when he created his website, was to expose the NTCC's crooked practices and that fact is evidenced by not only what he named his website, but also by what he named his Uniform Resource Locator (URL). Just follow me a little longer because I am getting to my point.

The true name Brian Pelfrey gave his Uniform Resource Locator (URL) is displayed when you go to ntccXposed. You have to dig just a little bit to find out what Uniform Resource Locator (URL) name Mike gave to one of the devices attached to his very own blog.

This is the title that Mr. Pelfrey gave his URL: http://www.ntccxposed.com/

This is the title that Mr. Kekel gave his URL which he didn't want people to see: http://exntccrsxposed.blogspot.com/

I found this URL connected the hit counter that Mike linked to his blog and no one else could have created it other than Mike. How do I know? Because you must have a password to create or edit the hit counter, and I know because I have it on my blog also.  What Mike named the URL that I copied and pasted above is proof of Mike's true intent i.e. "exntccrsxposed".  

 Mike is no more than a common con artist. If Mike's intentions were so pure, someone please explain why Mike would name a URL "exntccrsxposed"? 

To summarize; it's quiet obvious that Mike's intentions were not pure at all when he created his blog. He created his blog for the express purpose of exposing people who have left the NTCC by opposing the statements made by people who have left the NTCC. For the record and so no one thinks that I am a hypocrite, I definitely created my blog to highlight the NTCC's double standards, inconsiderate practices, lack of common decency, hypocrisy, and to expose specific people in the NTCC. 

Recently Mike wrote this statement on his blog: "We have some in NTCC who regularly keep company with railers and revilers on their blogs, facebooks, forums and websites, places where evil and railing appears continually." Well Mike just judged himself because he is a railer and reviler as is evidenced by his very own blog. Anyone who has an open mind will see right through Mike Kekel and they will realize that his blog is no different than this one. He has recently re-initiated all this thread posting for no other reason than to perform damage control against the blog that was also recently started by Deborah Shunk. In fact, it was the very day after Deb Shunk's blog became public that old Mikey posted a thread entitled "Don't Believe Everything You Read". Imagine that? What a coincidence. And then, (also coincidentally) he created all these new threads on his blog shortly thereafter. WOW, what a coincidence!!! If you believe that was simply circumstantial, I circumstantially have some beach front property to sell you in my back yard. Because Mike has turned so many NTCCers into suckers, (which I used to be also, where the NTCC was concerned) I should be receiving offers on the beach front property that I have for sale by COB tomorrow. Send CASH only to Chief and I'll make sure you get the deed to the land, water included.

 

Chief

To the left is a picture of a woman with a JOB!!!  Something that apparently Tanya Kekel knows all about.

On the previous thread Double Ugh, (D.U.) wrote...

A recent conversation got me thinking about how much better my husband and I are doing since leaving the NTCC. I have a good paying job...which I never would have had if we stayed.

Before we left, we spent much time in the Word reading and talking about whether a woman can work on a job or not. We came to the conclusion that it is not against the Bible for a woman to work on a job.

When I talked to Tanya Kekel about the fact that my husband and I decided to leave the organization, she of course wanted to know why, and I gave her some explanation.  I told her that I had decided to work. 

I was amazed at what came out of her mouth next! She said it's okay if I have a job and that there are many women in the NTCC that work.

I told her that my understanding was that it is looked down upon and preached against.

She said it is not preached against! Then she asked me when was the last time I heard Kekel preach against it.

I told her I can't remember, but I know it has been. She almost made me feel stupid...but we all know better. I told her that I don't want to get preached at for having a job.

Now, I know I did not just imagine that the NTCC preaches and teaches against women working! Kekel even wrote in his blog that it is against the Bible!!! So, did she flat out lie to me?!?

Chief said....

Imagine that and the answer is YES; she flat out lied to you.  She knows better.  Nothing about the NTCC leadership surprises me anymore. Flip flopping, double standard hypocrites.  That's all you have with the NTCC leadership and Tanya is no exception.  Look at Tanya's response:  "Then she asked me when was the last time I heard Kekel preach against it." 

So they've flip flopped on that one now also!!!  I guess Kekel doesn't preach on that anymore, do you think?  Who knows with the NTCC leadership.   Who knows what they believe and what they don't.  I know one thing they believe along with so many other crooked churches:  "All Christians pay tithe and give in the offering".  "You can't out give Gawd".   They won't ever flip flop on that part.  

Write Whatever You Want. The Last One Is At About 200 Posts

Lots of good stuff came out in the last thread.  The NTCC is in conference I guess.  It's that time of the year for some more good old fashioned brainwashing.   I'm glad I'm not there.  I wasted enough vacation time and money on that nonsense just to listen to old RDouble Cross Davis tell everyone where they could find the door if they didn't like it in his church.   I had to listen to him tell everyone how great Kekel was while bragging on Barnes and Denis.   

We know what happened to those two and if Barnes and Denis are any indication of the quality of RWDs judgment, you know what you are getting with Kekel.  Barnes basically ran off with his whole church (minus one or two) and Denis tried to run off with the entire NTCC and partly succeeded.   Kekel doesn't have to run off because first, he is not black, and second, the NTCC/RWD is giving him more than enough money.  Denis and Barnes ran off because they didn't feel like they were getting their fair share and Denis said the NTCC was full of racism and frankly he was right.  

They used to throw the "N" word around like it was candy and tell enough racist jokes to make me sick.  Well, there you have it.  Write whatever you'd like.  The NTCC is still a control freak organization full of narcissists, nepotism, and men pleasers.   Good night.  

The Plot Thickens

On the previous thread, Bro Edward Bellamy wrote...   

For those of you who were wondering about Rev. and Sister Brill, (yes, this is Rev. Olson's daughter and son-in-law.) They left NTCC a month before I did; approximately March 2011. This is the story behind his leaving.

When Rev. Brill was in the Army, he was diagnosed with cancer. They did surgery and he was medically discharged, but he has been very sick throughout the years. They have now found out that the procedure which was used to remove his cancer will eventually take his life. It makes even getting a common cold life threatening. He had become very sick while Pastoring in Amarillo, Texas. The doctors told him that he needed to stop most activities if he wanted to live. This was around conference time and the doctor also told him that he could get worse if he traveled. He told Pastor Davis that he was not coming to conference, because he was sick. They called him and chewed him out, saying, because Sister. Brill was Rev. Olson's daughter, it would be a bad testimony if they missed conference. So Rev. Brill went back to the doctor and the doctor strongly advised him not to go. So Rev. Brill sent Sister Brill to conference and he stayed home. During conference they called him and chewed him out. So he got on a plane and came to conference.. And just like the doctor predicted he became very sick. He then realized, (like all of us) that they DO NOT care about anyone but themselves, their pride, and their ego. They put his life in danger for show.

Much, much, much more to follow...

Later on the same thread Chief wrote...

You've posted some serious information with this whole Bro Brill situation. I mean just think about it for a moment, (which is what I do, and unfortunately for them, too many people don't).

If Olson's own son in law and daughter got the old "NTCC shaft", why should anyone else think they are exempt? The only ones who are totally exempt are the Kekels and it's apparent that the Kinsons get a break also. Maybe Johnson is more of a man than Olson (which is certain) and maybe he simply won't allow it, but either way, for certain Kinson gets a break also in the NTCC. When I say a break, I mean that he's clearly not been held to the same standard as the average NTCC minion, which also clearly Bro Brill fell into the category of.

I've been writing the words "double standard" for years now and they still ring true with the NTCC leadership. If the NTCC leadership road roughshod on Mr. Brill, then dog gone it, you better get your butt out of bed and get your sick self to conference. If you don't, you're going to get blasted and the NTCC leadership ain't taking no excuses and Bro Brill found that out the hard way.

If you read this message and you are part of the NTCC, you are out of your ever loving mind if you still want to remain part of that crooked, sick, twisted, sadistic, conniving, sorry, sad excuse of a "Christian Organization". R.W. Davis, Olson, and Kekel don't know the first thing about common decency or how to love their neighbors the same way they love their sorry selves and Bro Brill is stone cold proof!!!!  

If you want to read more of what Bro Bellamy wrote, you can find it all on the previous thread.  It's fairly extensive.  Incidentally, Kekel is an idiot.  

Take Care Of Your Family And Stop Being Stupid!!!!

You know Don and Ange, people think we are just mean spirited but they are missing the whole point. We are talking REAL LIFE, not some fairy tail. You believe in Christ and you don't live in some fairy tail land where you throw "RESPONSIBILITY" completely out the window and thats what too many NTCC people just don't get and unfortunately Robert Briggs (as nice of a guy as he was) didn't get it either. Is that mean spirited? Is telling the truth while trying to help folks so they don't make the same terrible mistakes being "mean spirited".   Sometimes the truth sucks and it seems cruel.

Take care of your LOVING family people. Paul talked about not being married so he could "completely focus" on the Gospel because listen to this; Paul knew if he was married and he had kids that he couldn't totally focus on the Gospel because he knew it was his Christian responsibility and his GOD GIVEN DUTY to place a considerable amount of focus on his family.

So Paul stayed single by choice but when you don't stay single by choice and you elect to have a family and Kids for crying out loud, you can't simply neglect them for the sake of the Gospel and certainly not for the sake of the stinking, greedy, control freak NTCC our you shouldn't have had a family in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Paul understood that, but NTCC people don't because they've been brainwashed by RWD and Kekel the conniving crooks.  

   And that is the problem with the NTCC and I hate it. The conniving NTCC leadership wants all your time and MONEY and they don't care if your family is neglected as long as you give them your time and MONEY for their greedy desires. You say, "how can you say that about RWD and Kekel".  Because if RWD and Kekel were real caring leaders, they would NOT allow a married man to pastor in the NTCC period, unless he showed proof that he has a life insurance policy for his family in the event that he dies.  You are REQUIRED to have life insurance if you are in the military, no ifs, ands, or buts because unlike the NTCC leadership, the  military doesn't just say that they care, they show that they care certainly in that regard.  The NTCC leadership doesn't show any genuine concern for all that but they do show a genuine concern for a bunch of mansions, RVs, fat cars, expensive and excessive schools for the Kekels are all at your expense????

Is that really what Christianity is all about?????? Is that what tithing was all about as it was mandated in the """OLD TESTAMENT""". HELL NO!!!!! It was never intended for those purposes even then and there is no mention of tithing being a mandate in the New Testament NOW. Don't you think that Paul, Peter, James or John would have made some mention of it being a mandate if it were a heaven or hell issue? Some NTCCer answer will ya?????

 You take care of your BIOLOGICAL family first because that is by far a greater responsibility (with no comparison) than lining the pockets of people like RWD, and Kekel. And all that was done so that someone like Grant can attend a Catholic College because make no mistake, Grant almost certainly wouldn't be there had he not attended Charles Wright Academy at the cost of approximately $20,000 per year (tithe payers cost) for four stinking years while he played football and basketball. He may have attended a local community college but he wouldn't be at a catholic college in St. Louis.  The Kekels and RWD pulled a fast one on you and it should be plain as the nose on your face.  The proof is the young man being at a CATHOLIC COLLEGE of all places.  He could have gone to any college.   He didn't have to go to the college of the "GREAT WHORE" as RWD taught for years.  They called the Catholic Church the "GREAT WHORE" or have you forgot?????  Have you forgot???? Would you send your kid off to be taught by the dog gone "GREAT WHORE" if that is what you believed????  I haven't lost my memory and I ain't no dummy and my memory is still quite active.

 You married NTCC people have it all wrong. Family first and stinking NTCC second because your biological family is your responsibility. If it were me the NTCC wouldn't even be second. They wouldn't be anywhere in my life because the crooked organization wouldn't even exist if I had my way. Now get some of that and I'm being real and that ain't being mean spirited.

He may have been a "good dude" but Robert Briggs was a "misguided good dude" when he put the stinking NTCC before his family for years. As a result he got caught in a trap that wouldn't let go because when he found out that his life was short, no insurance company would give him life insurance because he was already too sick and that is the truth because he told me and I felt bad for him and I don't want to see anyone else wind up in the same or similar situation.

Forget the stinking NTCC and make sure you take care of your family because that is what Paul would have done which is precisely why he chose not to have a family. So either be a monk or take care of your family and either way, you can still have faith in Christ. I'M OUT.

CHIEF

Today I Asked The Lord A Question

I said, "Lord, why do so many people in the NTCC live at or below the poverty level while at the same time the Kekels live lives of luxury".  "Lord they drive expensive automobiles, send their son off to receive the finest education,  they live in mansions Lord while yet at the same time their brethren are often poor and destitute"?   Why is that Lord?  

Well you'll never believe what happened next...  The Lord answered.

He said, "BROTHER JEFF, YOU ENTERTAIN EVIL THOUGHTS CONCERNING MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS". "THEY HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL IN ALL AND AS A RESULT, I HAVE BLESSED THEM BEYOND MEASURE, WHEREAS THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN HAVE BEEN UNFAITHFUL AND AS A RESULT, I CAN NOT BLESS THEM."   "I THE LORD HAVE MADE PROVISIONS FOR THEIR SON GRANT TO ATTEND A JESUIT (CATHOLIC) COLLEGE BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN FAITHFUL IN ALL AND I HAVE BLESSED HIM."  "YOU HAVE WRONGFULLY SUPPOSED THAT THE GREAT MONETARY BLESSINGS WHICH HAVE BEEN SO ABUNDANTLY BESTOWED UPON THE KEKELS ARE THE DIRECT RESULT OF THEM BEING THE DAUGHTER, SON IN LAW, AND GRANDSON OF R.W. DAVIS, AND NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH BROTHER JEFF".   "IT IS BECAUSE THE KEKELS HAVE BEEN WISER THAN THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND SHREWD CONCERNING THEIR INVESTMENTS AND I HAVE MULTIPLIED THEIR SUBSTANCE AND I THE LORD HAVE GIVEN THEM GREAT INCREASE"!!!  

"ONLY CROOKS AND CON ARTISTS RECEIVE GREAT MONETARY INCREASE THROUGH DECEITFULNESS AND CROOKERY BUT  WITH MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS, IT IS NOT SO."  "THEY HAVE BEEN HONEST AND TRUSTWORTHY FAR ABOVE THAT OF THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND AS A RESULT, I'VE TAKEN AT LEAST 10% FROM THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND TURNED IT INTO INCREASE FOR MY FAITHFUL SERVANTS THE KEKELS".  "AND BLESSED THEY SHALL BE FAR ABOVE THAT OF ALL THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND THESE ABUNDANT BLESSINGs HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING HEIRS TO THE GREAT PROPHET R.W. DAVIS AS YOU'VE SUPPOSED".  "HENCE YOU SHOULD PUBLISH THIS FOR ALL TO SEE AS I'VE SEEN FIT TO ELEVATE MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS FAR ABOUT THAT OF THEIR BRETHREN".

 "THEREFOR YOU SHALL LOUDLY PROCLAIM THAT EACH AND EVERYONE WHO NAMETH THE NAME OF THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES OF AMERICA INCORPORATED AS THEIR FELLOWSHIP SHALL IN NO WISE EVER STOP GIVING AT LEAST 10% OF ALL THEIR INCOME SO THAT I CAN USE THAT MONEY TO BLESS MY FAITHFUL SERVANTS THE KEKELS".  "MY FAITHFUL SERVANTS THE KEKELS SHALT HAVE LANDS, AND NICE AUTOMOBILES, AND GREAT AND LOFTY HOUSES,  AND RICHES BEYOND MEASURE, AND YE SHALT GIVE JOYFULLY UNTO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCH AS UNTO ME AND THE KEKELS SHALT BE BLESSED AND IT SHALL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING KIN TO THE GREAT R.W. DAVIS".

"I HAVE BLESSED YOU BROTHER JEFF AND I'VE BLESSED BROTHER VICTOR AND I'VE BLESSED BROTHER DON AND SISTER ANGE AND I'VE BLESSED GREGORY THE WISE ONE, WHEREAS I SHOULD HAVE CURSED YOU ALL BUT I DIDN'T BECAUSE YOU ALL IGNORANTLY SLANDERED THE NAMES OF MY WONDERFUL SERVANTS  THE KEKELS".  "NO ONE IN THE NTCC WILL EVER BE BLESSED AS MUCH AS THE KEKELS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL IN ALL AND MANY OF THEIR FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS SHALT BE CURSED BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SLOTHFUL.  MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS HAVE OPENLY SPOKEN OF THEIR SLOTHFULNESS AND HAVE RIGHTFULLY SUPPOSED". 

"YOU BROTHER JEFF HAVE CONTINUED TO BE BLESSED BECAUSE YOU'VE NOT BEEN SLOTHFUL AND I HAVE BLESSED YOU BEYOND MEASURE".  "YOU AND ONLY YOU, BROTHER JEFF CAN BE BLESSED BEYOND MEASURE EVEN THOUGH THOU DON'T GIVEST 10% OF ALL THINE INCREASE TO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES OF AMERICA INCORPORATED BECAUSE YOU'VE FAILED TO DO SO NOT WILLFULLY BUT IN IGNORANCE".  

Does this sound overly bold, careless, and disrespectful that I should write such a statement?  No where near as bold and careless as Mike Kekel openly proclaiming that his fellow brethren are broke and without money because they didn't incorporate his father in law's teachings into their daily money management habits.  He also boldly proclaimed that he has money because he did follow and practice the teachings of his father in law.   Well I say that's poppy cock.  Kekel is rich for one reason and one reason only.  Because he married Tanya and they've kept him at Graham where he has leeched off the entire organization for decades.  You are an idiot if you give your money to the NTCC.  You are a straight dummy if you believe that God can bless the Kekels but God can't bless you.   Well God sure is blessing me and I'm not even in the stinkin NTCC and I wouldn't give them one more dime of my money.

Complete Lack Of Wisdom, (Part 2). This One Never Gets Old.

A while back, Mike Kekel wrote an article on his blog called "Ain't Misbehaven". I'm astounded that Mike would even publish and openly display such information.  Approximately one year ago I posted an article referencing what Mike wrote titled "The Irony Of It All".  Directly below is a link which will take you straight to that article. 

http://truestoriesoflifeinthentcc.blogspot.com/2010/09/irony-of-it-all.html

Anyway, I wanted to repost what M.C. Kekel wrote because I'm still amazed  that he'd be so careless as to throw his father-in-law, RWD under the bus in such a fashion.  Either that, or it's part of yet another New Testament Christian Church master plan to allow in what they've called "compromise" for decades. 

M.C. Kekel wrote and I quote...

"I do not make the rules, and have only recently had opportunity to affect them. In the past I have only been in the unfortunate position of having to enforce them. That doesn't mean I agreed with them. If so be they were mistakes, they weren't mine. As for the church organization? I have nothing to do with policies and doctrines of the organization concerning things like TV (which ministers aren't to have if they carry license in NTCC- unless it is solely as a gaming monitor or something, and not connected to TV input) and couldn't change them if I wanted to. If that gets changed, Rev. Olson will have to do it by mandate or through board approval. I have no such power. Even in the Bible School realm I am limited."

"My influence on the bible school rules has only been to lighten them, not increase them. Further, since I wasn't a bible school student during that time, I was not UNDER those rules. The sports rule was not bible based to begin with, and was for bible school students. Not me."

Chief said... 

These statements absolutely amaze me!!!!!! They're jaw dropping.  I don't know how anyone in the New Testament Christian Church could ignore these statements if they have a conscience or any intelligence or common sense.  Do you really trust the NTCC leadership with the task of guiding you to heaven?  Really?  There are two people who are key leaders in the NTCC;  namely R.W. Davis and M.C. Kekel.   These statements (written by one NTCC executive board member, namely M.C. Kekel) made a complete mockery of the Founder of the NTCC, namely R.W. Davis.  Who do you think came up with all the rules and or endorsed every last one?  RWD!!!   Basically Mike wrote, (and of course I'm paraphrasing here) that he was the unlucky scapegoat who had the dubious distinction of having to enforce a bunch of bogus rules that he didn't agree with and had nothing to do with in the first place.   Boy if that ain't throwing RWD, and the rest of the general board under the bus, I don't know what in the world is?  

Listen here, armed with this information, I'd have no reason to believe that God inspired one single rule that RWD ever spewed out of his big fat mouth.   "Ask permission to go visit who"?  "Ask permission to stop where"?  "Ask permission to accept a job"?  "Ask permission to date or talk to who"?  "Stand against the wall just to talk to a woman"?  "You said it's a sin for all women to work"?  "Where is that rule found in the Bible, Proverbs 31"? "REALLY, ARE YOU SERIOUS, ARE YOU KIDDING ME"?  

Obey them that have rule over you?  When I know that they have a history of coming up with a bunch of bogus rules that Kekel doesn't even agree with, and he considers himself to be  unfortunate for even having to enforce them?  REALLY?  Huh!!  Never again.   I'm a grown man with a family to look out for.   You can follow a bunch of stupid rules and con artists if you want to but I'm not the one.

Chief  

P.S.  I wouldn't follow M.C. Kekel or RWD to find a toilet (say no less as spiritual leaders) if I had diarrhea.  

A Request From Double Ugh

Double Ugh asked...

I do want to bring up a possibility.  If you wouldn't mind starting one more topic that is just open for people to vent or maybe post how good they are doing since they left.  I know we've been much  happier.

What Do You Suppose Would Be Proudly Proclaimed Across Many NTCC Pulpits Had This Happened To Me?

Apparently Pastor and Sis Cyrius were recently in a serious automobile accent which ripped the roof off their BMW700 series automobile.  I don't know the extent of their injuries but it's my understanding that both of their faces were messed up to one degree or another.   That is an unfortunate occurrence and I wish them no ill-will and I hope they have a speedy and complete recovery.   These things can happen to anyone and it's just circumstance.   The Bible proves this.

Ecclesiastes 7:14  In the day of prosperity be joyful, but in the day of adversity consider: God also hath set the one over against the other, to the end that man should find nothing after him.  15 All things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just man that perisheth in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongeth his life in his wickedness.

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

So what is my point?  If I were to get into a car accident and the roof got ripped off because I hit a horse who was in the road, and I was driving 80mph, what do you suppose you'd hear come across some NTCC pulpits?  "Did you here what happened to J. Collins?  God judged him because he mocked the man of God on his blog!!!  That's right; God used a horse to judge Collins.  God had that horse stand right in the middle of the road and that horse was more obedient than Collins, and now because of his sin and disrespect toward the man of God, Collins is laid up in a hospital with his face all messed up and plenty of time to think about his mockery toward the man of God.  But even God is merciful because Collins could be dead but God is giving him such a time as this to repent of his disrespect but God might not be so merciful next time.  You see this is what happens when you mock R.W. Davis who is the man of GAWD!"

Sharp contrast to what you might of read on Mike Kekels blog about the Cyrius accident, hey?  Well my point is that this kind of occurrence can happen to anyone and you NTCCers need to stop being so superstitious.  I almost hit a dear just the other day but I managed to avoid it, barely.  The Cyrius couple wasn't so fortunate but I don't see it as Gods judgment; I simply see it as circumstance that can happen to anyone, plain and simple.  The purpose of this article isn't to capitalize on the Cyrius calamity (as I wish them no harm) but rather to highlight the NTCC leadership's hypocrisy which is so glaringly prevalent.   I'd bet my last dollar that if something like that had happened to me, it would get blasted across the pulpit in conference as "judgment" so that people would think I'd got slammed by God and be scared to come anywhere near this blog.   I know that for certain because I've heard RWD and his pastors highlight the calamity of folks who've left the NTCC say no less folks who've left and opposed the NTCC leadership.

Well for the record, life has been a million times better in every regard, since I left the NTCC then it ever was while I was with the NTCC and much of that is not circumstance.  How do I know?  Because some crook, unqualified New Testament Christian Church counselor isn't making decisions that affect me anymore, I make decisions that impact me and my family and if the good Lord has helped me, (which based on known evidence appears possible if not probable) I appreciate it.   If the Lord hasn't directed and guided my success, then I'm a very fortunate dude, because believe me, things have certainly been going my way for quite some time. No matter how you look at it, God has been very good to me up to this point because tomorrow that could end.  I take the good with the bad because I can't imagine that my extra ordinarily great success can last for too long.   If I wrote my story on this blog, people would certainly wonder with some degree of amazement about how I could continually and inexplicably remain so fortunate, time after time after time these last few years since I left the NTCC.    Don knows, because I tell him of all the things that happen to me and for  a few years now even to this very day, they just don't seem to stop.  I just don't like sticking too much of my business here on this blog.

Chief   

Keep It In Your Church, RWD Would. In Fact, He Does!

Let's consider tithe for a moment here.   I'm not writing this article to defend or refute the doctrine of compulsory tithing.   Some folks believe that tithing is a New Testament biblical mandate while others maintain that there is no New Testament scriptural evidence to validate such assertions. Either way, people will believe what they believe and that is not going to stop.  What we do know is that the New Testament Christian Church leadership teaches that if you don't pay tithe, you are certainly going to hell when you die.  Where this article is concerned, I'm fine with that assertion.

 So lets look at who the New Testament Christian Church leadership teaches that you should pay tithe to?  The pastor of your church, am I right?  In the Old Testament, the children of Israel payed tithe to the Levites because they weren't otherwise given an inheritance by the Lord.  That seems to be the model that the NTCC has adopted.   Having said that I have a few questions.  Who does RWD and Kekel pay tithe to?  I doubt Kekel writes out a tithe check and gives it to RWD so lets assume Kekel and RWD make tithe checks out to New Testament Christian Church INC, a Missouri Corporation, and lets assume that the checks are deposited into a corporate account in Graham or St. Louis.  OK, I'm find with that.  Well who controls the money in that account? That's easy, RWD.  And what do you suppose that money is spent on?  Whatever RWD wants to spend it on.  The extremely nice RVs he enjoys, more rental properties? Maybe the property that he had previously placed in the NTCCs name and gifted to the Kekels? I don't know and neither do you (unless you are RWD or Kekel) but it gets spent on something, and for certain that something is a direct benefit to RWD and Kekel?  New song books or nice pews for the chapel in "GRAHAM".  Upgrades to all the NTCC property in "GRAHAM".  We don't know because contrary to the way money is meticulously monitored in the NTCC satellite churches, there is no financial transparency or system of checks and balances in Graham.     Do you suppose tithe money sent to Graham from Atlanta or Ft. Hood was used for the church in Atlanta or the church Fort Hood for example?  Of course not so that brings about my next question.  

If RWD and Kekel basically pay tithe to themselves i.e. to accounts which they have control of, why don't other NTCC pastors do the same?   Davis is not a Levite or a son of Aaron so why pay him tithe when you are the pastor of your own church?  Because he is the quote, "senior apostle"?  Where in the Bible does it say to pay tithe to the "senior apostle"? Certainly not in 2 Corinthians because Paul, (who was the senior Apostle) physically present with the church in Corinth for 1 1/2 years, (Acts 18:11) didn't accept a dime from that church and more importantly he refused to, (2 Cor 11:9).  So if the church in Corinth was not required to pay Paul tithe and Paul was right there with the Corinthians ministering for 1 1/2 years, why do you NTCC pastors send your tithe to Graham Washington to be controlled by RWD who doesn't minister to you at all?  Come on let's be real, you might even talk to the guy maybe once every 6 months if that?  

So here is my point and please NTCC Pastors, be open minded.  Why do you send tithe to Graham when Kekel/RWD and the NTCC INC have their own "church" accounts which are supposedly funded by their tithe, their church members tithe and the tithe from ministers who live there?  RWD wouldn't fund someone else's church in a million years so why do you?  Your tithe should stay in your own church account that you and your church have control of.  That way you wouldn't have to call Graham to ask permission to buy this or buy that and you wouldn't have to ask permission to spend more than $50.  RWD would never do that so why do you?   I know the  answer the NTCC leadership gives because I've been told this by NTCC leaders.   You NTCC pastors don't have control of the money that you bring into your church because the NTCC leadership doesn't trust you!  Ok that's fine but conversely, why should you trust them to do right by the money that you send to Graham when you could just keep it right in your church?  Trust is a two way street Brother!!! You can't say that keeping your tithe money in your church is wrong, from a doctrinal standpoint because that is exactly what RWD and Kekel does.  They wouldn't control my escrow account either, not for one second, but that is a "slightly" different subject. Once you become a pastor, your tithe should stay in your church, period.  If you want to make sure that your tithe is given as unto the Lord, then deposit it into an account that will only be used to purchase things for YOUR church or to be used as charity for the poor, fatherless or widow just like the Apostles did in 1 Cor 16 and Romans 15:26.

If I were an NTCC pastor, there is no way on God's green earth that I'm taking any of the money that my church members gave in good faith and send it to Graham Washington so the Kekel's can use it to get another mansion when the first one they had wasn't good enough.  You NTCC pastors are getting duped. 


Chief

The Land Deal Caused Davis A Lot Of Problems

For those of you who don't know, some years back the New Testament Christian Church Incorporated gifted 39 acres of land to Mike and Tanya Kekel, which as of 2008 was valued at $373,000.  If you are interested in the seeing a copy of the warranty deed, it can be found by clicking here.

Last night I talked to a gentleman from Graham who told me that RWD held a meeting some years back with ministers and seminary students.  At the meeting RWD addressed the land deal and he told the people in the audience that he could spend his money however he wanted to include giving his daughter and son-in-law 39 acres of land.  Strangely,  RWD closed the meeting by telling everyone that they would die and go to hell if they didn't pay their tithe!   Boy old RWCross is one seriously warped, rich individual.   Being both rich and warped is a bad combination.  Anyway, the gentleman who I talked to, felt that the New Testament Christian Church lost a lot of people because of the land deal.   That is good news for those of us who were involved in posting that information.  I know of 4 people for certain who left the NTCC because of the land deal and I'm sure there were a lot more.  

The real ethical problem surrounding the land deal was that the land (prior to being gifted to the Kekels) was New Testament Christian Church property.  Notice I said "gifted" because that is how it was phrased on the warranty deed, (that it was given as a gift).  Since when do CHURCHES give property gifts valued at over $300,000 to the founders daughter and son-in-law?  It's my understanding that the Kekel's have since given it back to the New Testament Christian Church, but I don't know that for certain and even if they did, that would put it right back in Davis' hands to do whatever he wanted with it just like he proved he could do in the past.  Whether or not they gave it back really doesn't matter because the whole ordeal was crooked in the first place and it's proof to how RWD and the New Testament Christian Church operates.  

So what is the moral of the story?  Unless you want to go to hell, you better pay your tithe so the New Testament Christian Church can  give it away to the likes of Mike and Tanya.  That way, they'll have plenty of money to put their son through a real college (which happens to be catholic) and I don't care if he has a scholarship.   So does my daughter and it still costs us plenty of money and my daughter isn't even driving a car in college like I suspect Grant is even though I could be wrong.  Automobile insurance for someone under 25 is REAL expensive.  So when you pay your tithe, just know you are helping out Grant a lot.  Just learn to forget about your own children because in the grand scheme of things in the NTCC, your children don't matter; only Grant does.   If you think otherwise you're an idiot.  

If you are in the New Testament Christian Church,  you are really getting taken to the cleaners, used and played like a sucker.   R.W. Davis, Olson, Kekel and all the rest of them can take a long walk off a short pier.   They would do more for humanity to be fed to the sharks.   That way, the sharks might not be so hungry so as to attack innocent swimmers.  RWD, Kekel and Olson are all sharks so that fate would be fitting. 

Chief

To Waste Money Like Only The NTCC Can

The New Testament Christian Church can seriously waste your hard earned money.  When my family started attending the NTCC  in Columbus, Ga,  only a few brothers lived in a small serviceman's home.   That house was plenty ample considering the small number of brothers who lived there.  I thought it was a nice home and I expressed that openly but sister Hunt immediately saw the need to correct me by suggesting that they needed a larger, nicer serviceman's home.   I disagreed but I was told that I just didn't understand.   Denis who was a visiting overseer and still in the NTCC at the time,  convinced Hunt that together, they should go out and look for a larger serviceman's home and they found one.   Of course Hunt, who had delusions of grandeur, bought of on that notion hook line and sinker.   At the time, Denis only had the split in mind but nevertheless, it didn't financially make sense to move only a few brothers (including one who was leaving soon) into what would be a four bedroom house with a swimming pool in the back yard, two large living rooms, a huge dinning room, spacious kitchen, and a large enclosed back family room.   Of course rent was considerably higher than the smaller house they moved out of.  

After a very short period of time, there were no brothers living in the home.   Then they'd get one here and one there for brief periods of time but for the most part the home stayed absolutely empty other than the pastor and his wife.  Then Oberhauser took over as pastor and he never had any success at all getting the home occupied with brothers.  From a business and a spiritual standpoint, he was a complete failure.  So for all intensive purposes, (with very few exceptions) the large home stayed empty from the beginning of 2004 - 2008.  During that time the air conditioning unit either didn't work or didn't work effectively.  Oberhauser didn't even keep the unit on and that home would get uncomfortably warm.   One time L.D. Jones showed up and insisted that Oberhauser turn the AC on because we were in there and it was hot.   

Well a few years into that whole debacle, I came to the realization that the NTCC was doing no more than wasting our hard earned money on an excessively large home that only Oberhauser and his wife lived in.   They also had to spend money to keep the pool up that of course wasn't even used.   I called up Oberhauser and asked why he didn't just move out of that home because it was obviously a money pit and Oberhauser always gave excuses why that couldn't happen.   Of course Oberhauser and the NTCC leadership wasn't too worried about it because it wasn't directly their money that was being wasted on that house, it was OURS!!!!!  Oberhauser didn't have a job.  So during the years of 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, and part of 2008, our tithe and offering money was flushed straight down the toilet, both figuratively and literally, every time Oberhauser and his wife took a dump in that large unnecessary money pit of a house.  

The other day MDR told me that he was wasting thousands of dollars monthly, when he first got to Japan because what was explained to him to be a self sustaining church was anything but that when he arrived.   MDR was not the only NTCC pastor who told me he was lied to in that regard.   Other NTCC pastors have said that they were lied to by RWD and told that they were going somewhere to take over a monetarily "self sustaining" church and when they arrived, there was hardly anyone in church or in the home.   In some cases even five people or less and as a result the pastor had to immediately find a job just to pay the rent.   MDR can expound on this a whole lot better than I can. 

The moral of the story: RWD the dupester and Kekel the con-artist will tell you that you shouldn't spend money and you are broke because you do, but that is anything but the truth.  RWD will teach you every trick in the book on how to save money, not run up credit card dept, not finance cars and that is all good advice.  At the same time RWD will motivate pastors to waste every dime that comes into the church on a money pit home like the one in Columbus Georgia and RWD doesn't have a problem with that because he is not the one "directly" paying the rent.   Indirectly he is, but he doesn't seem to have a problem with that when the cold hard cash isn't coming directly out of his own pocket.   

Chief

Rules, Rules, Rules And Traditions Of Men. The Pharisees And The NTCC Leadership; Peas From The Same Pod.

What are the most ridiculous rules/traditions that the New Testament Christian Church leadership ever dreamed up?   If any come to mind, please post them if you get a chance.  I know this has been done before but repetition is often a good thing.   In the previous thread, Don effectively referenced an applicable scripture which most effectively describes the attitudes of the NTCC Pharisees.

Mat 15:2  Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.

Does that describe the NTCC leadership or what?  Kekel, RWD and Olson act just like the Pharisees with all their man-made rules and traditions.   One of the most ridiculous rules I can remember, is being told that we couldn't use our computers to do our soul-winning reports but rather we had to write them by hand twice over; one for our records and one for the pastor.   We could have done it on our computer and printed out two copies ten times as fast.  That was just one example of Mayers trying to run his church like the NTCS a.k.a. the school of ridiculous rules.  Of course Mayers only got that from Kekel and RWD.  Kekel taught it in conference and RWD endorsed it and I was there. If Kekel says he didn't teach that he is a liar because I listened to him.  He said you should do your reports in a predetermined location such as a fast food place prior to ever going home.  I suppose we were all supposed to walk into KFC with desktops?  I wanted to do the report back at my house on my "desktop" and Mayers said no, thanks to Kekel's bright idea.  They can take all those rules and shove em.   Jesus didn't like those rules and neither do I.


Chief

Pickup That Stuff With Your Fingers And Stop Playing Kiss-up

    Big Turkey Leg    

To the left are pictures of "finger food".  That old turkey leg got picked up by someone's hand and they bit a big chuck right out of it.  You see that nice greasy piece of pizza and those fries and onion rings?  You pick those up with your fingers. You know why those fries are smiling? It's a happy meal, and it only stays happy if the good little children pick out the fries with their fingers.  If those sweet children aren't allowed to, it gets real sad with a pitiful frown.  Olson, you big meanie. Don't listen to Olson the control monger and don't let him get you all convicted with thinking you've lost your salvation cause you've eaten these foods with your hands.  Practical theology?  Are you kidding me?  That is more like practical control mongering?  That is a bunch of nonsense.  That junk has nothing to do with salvation.  Keep that stuff for the princes, queens and nobles in the Buckingham Palace.  Stop worrying about your spoon  hitting the side of your coffee cup while you're mixing up the cream and sugar.   

How many people do you think have gotten saved because they watched you eating fries, onion rings and chicken wings with a fork for crying out loud?  NOT ONE!!!  In fact, you've probably driven more people away from your church and Jesus with that mess because they didn't want to be anything like you.  That is no more than a bunch of legalistic trash perpetuated by a bunch of control mongers who have nothing better to dream up.   I understand good manners and I got that, but picking up fries, wings and onion rings with your fingers has nothing to do with a "lack" of good manners.  For RWD, Olson and Kekel to sit there and gawk at you in a judgmental fashion while you are eating is ridiculous.  These are the kinds of things I can't stand about the New Testament Christian Church. 

Where in the Bible does it say you can't pick food up with your fingers.   What do you think they used to hand out and break apart the fishes and the loaves with; a set of tongs?  That is just another bunch of bologna rules, no pun intended.  Man I'll snatch a piece of bologna and cheese right out of the fridge and role it up like a hot dog and gobble it right down with my hands!  Oh, I suppose I'm not saved now.   Do you think Jesus was worried about the garbage.   RWD and Olson should spend more time worrying about the fatherless, poor and the widow rather than worrying about how you eat some chicken and fries.  When they run out of other stuff to NITPICK about, they start watching how you eat.  That's called "straining at a gnat".   Those guys are the most judgmental hypocrites I've ever met in my life.  God could care less about how you eat a chicken leg.  God cares about your heart so stop trying to be a man pleaser while being over concerned about how you eat in Olson's, Kekel's or RWD's presents. 

Chief

To Lose Self-Worth And Self-Respect

That is exactly what's happened to you if you've bought off on the most recent statement that Mr. Kekel typed on his blog concerning the reason's that "fellowship meetings" were essentially stopped.

First point:  Mr Kekel said that fellowship meetings need to be quote "supervised" by an overseer.  So a "pastor" can start a church from scratch, travel all over the world, spend time in the military, supposedly be "called and chosen" by God (according to RWD) to lead souls to a place of eternal peace, and he can't be trusted to meet with others who hold like qualifications to have church without quote "supervision"?  You are kidding right?  Especially after they did it for decades?

Second point:  Mr Kekel said that the primary reason that fellowship meetings were stopped was to "ease the financial burden on the churches".   Of course this is after he said that pastors needed to be supervised but I've already left that point.  Financial burden?  I spent years in the NTCC and fellowship meetings never caused me an additional financial burden? In fact they saved me money.  Let me make one thing perfectly clear.   If there hadn't been fellowship meetings, I would have spend money on gas driving all over creation that Saturday for a trip to the church in the morning, soul winning, money on food during the at least 6 hour period while we were out, a trip to the determined location where we'd turn in our stupid reports, back home if we even had time and if not, more money spent on another meal, picking up people for church, putting money in the offering, taking people back home and then finally, a trip back to my house.   You are kidding right Kekel?   I don't care if the fellowship meeting was four hours away. It didn't cost me any more money to go there then it did to stay right were I was at?  As far as the actual "church" was concerned, if a preacher loosing the offering money which essentially amounted to the chump change given by the "Saturday's" usual small crowd hurt his wallet, then your system has made him too broke in the first place.  I don't buy it Kekel because what you've written makes no sense at all, and I haven't lost my ability or will to think with my brain which you didn't successfully steal from me even though you certainly tried hard enough.  That explanation is lame and insulting.   If those preachers are that broke, the problem isn't fellowship meetings but rather them needing to get a better job with more hours or get a job period!  Oh, but once again it's not about the church members financial stability but about them staying in their own town every Saturday while spending every dime of their own money that the church can suck out of them so the "Church" isn't financially affected!!!!

Third Point:  Kekel wrote...  "But for some people (referring to the ministers), everything is a burden."  Oh really? Boy isn't that an insult!!! These are supposedly Gods elite spokesman who RWD placed according to God's direction in their respective positions and for some of them, "everything is a burden"?   Everything is a problem for them, right Kekel?  They are complainers, whiners, never happy, right Kekel?   So you feel that way but you actually keep these men in positions as pastors and I'm supposed to be stupid enough to believe they are qualified to lead me to heaven?  Really?! Are they supposed to be stupid enough to let a spoiled brat like you who has never had to struggle for a dime refer to them like that?  That is easy for you to say you pathetic piece of trash. Everything has been handed to you on a platter so you don't know what it's like to have a quote, "burden".  Your church was handed to you, your geographical stability was handed to you,  all the tithe money was handed to you,  an exemption of all the rules that applied to other NTCC children was handed to you.  You don't know what a burden is or what it's like to struggle Mr Kekel, so therefor you can even relate to their "burdens".  You better believe everything is a burden when you encourage them not to work, while pioneering a church with a wife and kids under toe, while at the same time they are sending half the money that comes into their church up to Graham to fund your son's $80,000 high school education and secular Catholic college.  That would be a burden for me also!!!  Makes me sick. 

Forth point:  Kekel said a few preachers strove over who was leading service, whose wife would sing and who would preach.  So you stopped a practice that's existed for decades because of a "few" preachers conduct?  Sounds like a knee jerk mass punishment to me. Frankly I witnessed some of the same but my question is, what makes you, Mr. Kekel, qualified to judge those other pastors?  Kekel's spoiled wife was handed every microphone that ever came anywhere near her on a platter and so was Kekel, even though he doesn't preach nearly as effectively as many others I've heard.  And not only that, but if that is the way Kekel and RWD feels about so many NTCC pastors, why in the world would they even leave them in church leadership positions? Because it ain't about souls if you guys and your wives are that petty and they know it.  It's about the expansion of their real-estate empire at whatever cost.  How on Gods green earth is a pastor supposed to lead souls to heaven if those are the things he's worried about.  Kekel dogged you guys out, plain and simple and don't say, "none of that applies to me" because it certainly was directed at a whole lot more than just one, or they wouldn't have canceled fellowship meetings altogether unless there is "SUPERVISION".

Fifth point:  The truth of the matter is, I don't believe any of the reasons he gave are the "MAIN" reason they stopped fellowship meetings without the presents of "supervision". Too many people are leaving the NTCC and they don't want you guys talking in the absence of supervision, plain and simple.  It's called censorship or information control; cult 101. They know that when you guys are allowed to talk freely, in the absence of supervision, you'll learn how crooked they are and wind up leaving the NTCC just like MDR, Barnes, Granger, Scrivins and all the rest.  If so many of you guys are as ate-up as Kekel suggested, why in the world do they even keep you or your associates as pastors?  Do you actually believe that the kind of conduct that Kekel described is going to get people to heaven?  If you do,  you are one seriously mislead,  blind leading the blind individual, and that is why I left the NTCC. 

Chief