Jeff said...
Bro Bellamy is quite the thought provoking writer. His points are all valid and his questions legitimate. Any sincere hearted Christian should give Bro Bellamy's questions some serious consideration. If pleasing R.W. Davis and M.C. Kekel is more important to you than pleasing God and loving your neighbor, only you will know. For those of you who are trying to make to heaven, you may very well not be heading in that direction if pleasing the NTCC leadership is more important to you than pleasing God, and God does know. Being a company man ain't going to get you to heaven.
On the previous thread, Bro Bellamy wrote...
It is very interesting that no one from NTCC ever shows or proves what is being said is a lie. They may say it is a lie, but never give evidence to the contrary. They tell us to keep our mouths shut or tell us that we are filled with bitterness, but they never say here is proof.
Those of you that remain in NTCC should ask yourself a few questions.
Who are you more afraid of asking a question; the Lord Jesus or Pastor Davis or Rev. Kekel?
(Be Honest!)
Then ask youreself the question; should it be that way?
Another question to ask; Am I working and sacrificing for God or is it really because I don't want to be considered a failure by NTCC leaders?
Is my sacrifice a freewill offering to God or is it because I have heard others rebuked during conferences for loving a house, job, or family more than I love God or that they are lazy?
When I stand before God is he going to say how many people did I invite to church or is he going to say did I love him and my neighbor?
Am I saved by my works or am I really saved by grace?
Read, study, and pray about Acts chapter 15.
Many of us that post on this blog have forgiven any wrong we received from NTCC. But I am beginning to undersatand that forgiveness does not mean keeping our mouths shut.
I was praying the other day and I told God that I was angry, but I was going to work out that anger then and there. I told God that much of what I was angry about was difficult to put in words and he helped me.
I was angry that I allowed NTCC to teach me to distance myself from my family, I was angry because I left God's grace and love and replaced it with works, I was angry because I have found it so hard to relate to others because I had become a Pharisee, and many other things.
But now there is no anger. God is opening doors. I am shocked by all the love I am receiving from other churches. They are not the compromising devils that we have been led to believe. Many support missionaries, many have invited to take us to dinner; they want to give of themselves for others and not take. They have food banks and just want to help people and are not asking for anything in return. They volunteer and enjoy doing so. No one is telling them that they are not saved if they don't; they just love people.
One last question and I will close for now. The Bible said for us to give hoping nothing in return. Why is it that when you soul win you think of what can these people do for my church; can they pay tithe, can they become soul winners? Why are you not taught to look at each individual as a soul that may die and go to hell if they don't accept Christ?
We know how you think, because we use to be you.
Bro. Bellamy
7/10/2011
7/03/2011
Confused and Misguided
On the Reeds blog, Theresa Jeter wrote...
This is truly sad and hurtful. I admire people who leave NTCC and never say a negative word about the church or its leaders. But no, most of you have to leave, hook up with other disgruntled people and run their mouth. There is no excuse for that and it effects innocent people like L.C. who does not know our leaders to know any better. I am shocked, hurt and ashamed of you for what your doing.
Sis. Jeter
Jeff said...
The fact that Sis Jeter made the comment was truly a shame and it was laden with yet more NTCC style double standards. I wonder how many times Sis Jeter wrote RWD, Kekel, Olson or any other NTCC pastor a letter condemning them for smearing and discrediting countless people who have left the NTCC? Do you think she has ever written RWD even once? Fat chance. Well I've been in some of the same conferences that she has and RWD has certainly said quote "NEGATIVE" things about people who have left the NTCC. I specifically remember what RWD said the very conference following the Taylor's departure. "They loved their house more than they loved God". Well what kind of crap is that? Did you ever hear RWD or all the other NTCC pastors smear the names of countless people who've left the NTCC? Have you? Well I certainly have more times than I care to remember so what in the world is the difference.
I'll tell you the difference!!! HYPOCRISY!!! It's perfectly fine for the NTCC leadership to smear the names of people who've left the org, but as soon as someone who's left has one thing to say about Old Double Standard Davis, Conniving Kekel, or the NTCC ORG, all of a sudden it's quote "sad and hurtful". I didn't see Sis Jeter or any other people who like to judge us, stand up in conference to give Old Double Standard Davis a piece of their mind while RDUB was smearing folks who left the NTCC? Not only that, the thread where Sis Jeter posted her rebuking, wasn't anything like you find on this blog and I'm not making any apologies. The NTCC leadership can smear the names of everyone who leaves the NTCC and I can call them a bunch of double standard hypocrites and there ain't no difference; hypocrite.
Not only that, she said that she "admired people who left the NTCC and "NEVER" say a negative word about the church or it's leaders? ARE YOU SERIOUS? REALLY? ARE YOU KIDDING? Typical NTCC garbage. NTCC pastors can air everyone's dirty laundry anytime they want but God forbid someone do it to them. The NTCC is so messed up it's unbelievable. The NTCC has more double standards than Mike Tyson has punches. The Kekels son is attending a Catholic Secular College and the Kekels are still in charge even after Old Double Standard Davis stood up in conference saying that if your kid didn't attend the NTCS you were a failure as a Christian parent? He talked about how great is was that someone's kid was attending the NTCS and there is no telling how many times he dogged out the Catholic church, and his own grandson not only ISN'T attending the NTCS but he is attending a Catholic College? Are you serious? Shocked, hurt and ashamed? I'm shocked, hurt and ashamed that I was ever associated with the New Testament Church Cult period and I'm also ashamed that I was ever associated with RWD, the abusive, double standard, hypocrite jerk.
So it's ok for the NTCC leadership to get a free pass to talk and preach about people who leave their cult but it's not ok for us to do the same about them after we leave? Stop being a bunch of judgmental hypocrites and maybe well stop quote, "hooking up with other disgruntled people and running our mouths" like you just did Sis Jeter. It is what it is. If you don't want to play with the big dogs you better stay on the porch. You see how I just talked/wrote? That is exactly how RWD and his pastors talk about people who leave the NTCC; real hard and strong and they don't make any apologies regarding their approach and I'm not making any either. The days of me getting rebuked by people in the NTCC are done. Jesus let the Pharisees have it and I let the NTCC Pharisees have it also.
Additionally, I think this blog is the place to hash this kind of thing out. The Reeds are trying to keep this kind of thing down on their blog which is why I didn't attempt to post my response there. So there you have it. The Reeds were expected to just quietly leave the NTCC and "keep their mouths shut" like good little boys and girls. Don't rock the boat little Johnnie and be a good little boy. NOT!
Jeff
This is truly sad and hurtful. I admire people who leave NTCC and never say a negative word about the church or its leaders. But no, most of you have to leave, hook up with other disgruntled people and run their mouth. There is no excuse for that and it effects innocent people like L.C. who does not know our leaders to know any better. I am shocked, hurt and ashamed of you for what your doing.
Sis. Jeter
Jeff said...
The fact that Sis Jeter made the comment was truly a shame and it was laden with yet more NTCC style double standards. I wonder how many times Sis Jeter wrote RWD, Kekel, Olson or any other NTCC pastor a letter condemning them for smearing and discrediting countless people who have left the NTCC? Do you think she has ever written RWD even once? Fat chance. Well I've been in some of the same conferences that she has and RWD has certainly said quote "NEGATIVE" things about people who have left the NTCC. I specifically remember what RWD said the very conference following the Taylor's departure. "They loved their house more than they loved God". Well what kind of crap is that? Did you ever hear RWD or all the other NTCC pastors smear the names of countless people who've left the NTCC? Have you? Well I certainly have more times than I care to remember so what in the world is the difference.
I'll tell you the difference!!! HYPOCRISY!!! It's perfectly fine for the NTCC leadership to smear the names of people who've left the org, but as soon as someone who's left has one thing to say about Old Double Standard Davis, Conniving Kekel, or the NTCC ORG, all of a sudden it's quote "sad and hurtful". I didn't see Sis Jeter or any other people who like to judge us, stand up in conference to give Old Double Standard Davis a piece of their mind while RDUB was smearing folks who left the NTCC? Not only that, the thread where Sis Jeter posted her rebuking, wasn't anything like you find on this blog and I'm not making any apologies. The NTCC leadership can smear the names of everyone who leaves the NTCC and I can call them a bunch of double standard hypocrites and there ain't no difference; hypocrite.
Not only that, she said that she "admired people who left the NTCC and "NEVER" say a negative word about the church or it's leaders? ARE YOU SERIOUS? REALLY? ARE YOU KIDDING? Typical NTCC garbage. NTCC pastors can air everyone's dirty laundry anytime they want but God forbid someone do it to them. The NTCC is so messed up it's unbelievable. The NTCC has more double standards than Mike Tyson has punches. The Kekels son is attending a Catholic Secular College and the Kekels are still in charge even after Old Double Standard Davis stood up in conference saying that if your kid didn't attend the NTCS you were a failure as a Christian parent? He talked about how great is was that someone's kid was attending the NTCS and there is no telling how many times he dogged out the Catholic church, and his own grandson not only ISN'T attending the NTCS but he is attending a Catholic College? Are you serious? Shocked, hurt and ashamed? I'm shocked, hurt and ashamed that I was ever associated with the New Testament Church Cult period and I'm also ashamed that I was ever associated with RWD, the abusive, double standard, hypocrite jerk.
So it's ok for the NTCC leadership to get a free pass to talk and preach about people who leave their cult but it's not ok for us to do the same about them after we leave? Stop being a bunch of judgmental hypocrites and maybe well stop quote, "hooking up with other disgruntled people and running our mouths" like you just did Sis Jeter. It is what it is. If you don't want to play with the big dogs you better stay on the porch. You see how I just talked/wrote? That is exactly how RWD and his pastors talk about people who leave the NTCC; real hard and strong and they don't make any apologies regarding their approach and I'm not making any either. The days of me getting rebuked by people in the NTCC are done. Jesus let the Pharisees have it and I let the NTCC Pharisees have it also.
Additionally, I think this blog is the place to hash this kind of thing out. The Reeds are trying to keep this kind of thing down on their blog which is why I didn't attempt to post my response there. So there you have it. The Reeds were expected to just quietly leave the NTCC and "keep their mouths shut" like good little boys and girls. Don't rock the boat little Johnnie and be a good little boy. NOT!
Jeff
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