Happy Memorial Day

Our Servicemen and Women have sacrificed greatly so that we can have the liberties we all now enjoy.   We have freedom in the United States.   I enjoy the freedom to live in my own house, take care my family the way I see fit, and look out for the best interests of my children.   My daughter will start college this year and become a full time college student just like Grant Kekel. Contrary to what the New Testament Christian Church teaches, women also have freedom in the United States.  They can vote and contrary to what RWD believes, they can share in intelligent discussions concerning elections.  Contrary to what the NTCC believes, Woman (with a capital W) are worth a whole lot more than to just cook, clean the house, raise the children, (if they are not brainwashed into not having them) and having sex.  The biblical evidence is Proverbs 31, the book and chapter that RWD absolutely can't stand unless of course it is being read by a brainwashed drone. Then RWD can make it mean anything he wants and they will believe him.  The (married Woman) in Proverbs 31 possessed the freedom to have a job and it was counted to her as righteousness and she was considered virtuous.  In the NTCC that is a novel concept. 

People have sacrificed and died so that all people in the United States can have freedom (to include women) and the NTCC leadership has done everything possible to steal those freedoms from their members. Examples:  Don't go here or else!  Don't go there or else!  Your children can't do this (even though Grant was allowed to) or else!  The only way you can serve God is our way!  It's our way or the highway!   Move "when" we tell you to move!  Stay when we tell you to stay!  Move "where" we tell you to move and if you don't like it there is the door!   Buy a house when we tell you to buy a house and sell your house when we tell you, so that you can move "when" and "where" we tell you to move.  Go to visit your family when we say it's ok, (which won't be very ofter)!  Date who we say you can date!  Visit who we give you permission to visit!  Have only the number of children at your kids birthday party that we allow!  Work the jobs that we say you can work and only work the hours that we say you can work!   If that causes you financial problems then you have the "freedom" to either walk out the door or stay with RWD's corporation, go broke, and in dept with credit problems.   

Listen people.  Take your freedom back by exercising the one freedom that the NTCC freely offers.  "If you don't like it here, there is the door."  Honor our Service Members by taking back the freedom that they sacrificed so greatly for you to have.  Take the freedom back that Jesus sacrificed so greatly for you to have.  Know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Happy Memorial Day.

Jeff

Against The Wall

Why does the New Testament Christian Church leadership make it so difficult for BS students to date?   Why do they have to get on the wall?   Why does someone have to walk up to RWD and ask permission to just to talk to a lady?   I know the answer and it's the same answer to all three questions.  Because RWD is a control freak!!!!!! That is right, and I've said it before but I really don't think many people truly understand.   It is part of RWD's nature to get immense pleasure from people having to do exactly and only what he wants them to do.   When you don't do what he wants you to do, RWD the jerk has a history of making your life complete misery.   He has a history of acting like a spoiled brat when he doesn't get his way.   When you don't allow RWD to make a decision for you,  he'll say, "Ok decide for yourself"  but you best believe that won't be the last of it.

He'll act like a jerk every time he gets around you.  He'll act like he doesn't want anything to do with you and he'll make other demands on you that he knows you won't want to follow so he can act like an even worse spoiled brat.  Mayers, Ramirez, Hunt, Oberhauser, Kinson, Jones and Ashmore were the same way.  If you didn't agree with them or do what they asked, you could best believe you were going to hear about it via the pulpit and they would have an attitude toward you for weeks. They put on that fake smile with all the "God bless you brother's" but they just couldn't hide that attitude no matter how hard they tried and it always came out across the pulpit.  RWD is like a big kid who has control of all the toys and when you don't play HIS game his way, he lets you know it's the highway.  He might just as well say, "I don't want to play with you anymore, I'm taking all my toys and I'm going home and you can't come". 

The guy gets off on adults having to come to him and ask permission to talk to a girl.  He likes to see people openly humiliated.  He doesn't want you to have any self esteem.   And that my friends is the reason for the wall.  It's a psychological tool he uses in his game to keep control of all the players.  RWD is such a complete jerk that it's actually unbelievable.   He is like Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, and Kim Jong il all put together.  To put it plainly he is a sadistic dude and I'm not exaggerating one little bit.   

Everything he does revolves around an unquenchable desire  to be in control of other people.  The wall, the escrows, the whole dating thing, telling people to pack up and move when he knows that is not where they want to go, the way he treats women, calling folks up at 3:00am, the draws where "HE" breaks off a little money, the lodge,  people living in his houses, the private bathroom at conference, having to stand in line to wait to talk to him, the Cadillacs. He is a control freak, freaky deak, freak freaky deak.  It's true people!!!!  I'm not just dreaming this stuff up.  That is RWD in a nutshell.  You NTCC people are under the control of one of the most demented, warped, overbearing narcissists that currently walks the face of the earth.   The man I was stupid enough to once adore, I now have nothing but disdain for.  I now understand exactly who his is, and he is anything and everything BUT a Christian.  He wouldn't know what to do with himself if he couldn't control people.  He thrives on it, he lives for it.  He loves the attention, the gifts, the million "Yes Sirs",  and the people "Against the Wall".  

Jeff 

Yet Another RWD Flim Flam And The Pastor Who Got Hoodwinked

To the left is a picture of RWD taking off with all your  hard earned cash.   

Jeff wrote...

This is the type of treatment you can expect to receive from R.W. Davis, AKA (RDUB) or (RWD) if you are a pastor in the New Testament Christian Church.   

M.D. Reed a former NTCC pastor wrote....

When I arrived at the church in Killeen, TX, back in '05, I found that the buildings were dilapidated and literally falling apart! I made a call to RWD and he upbraided me, saying, all I want to do is spend money. I told him, sir, that's not true. I just see big needs down here and I want to correct them. I told him, I'll do the work, if you'll clear the expense". His statement to me was, "Well, how much money do you have in your general fund?" Well, that ended that conversation.

I was a little discouraged at this point because I was embarrassed to invite people to a place where the shingles were coming off the roofs, the parking lot was full of holes, the siding was rotting off the buildings, and the sign was falling apart and had a crooked cross on top. I was so ashamed and thought, Graham doesn't look like this.

The NTCC leaders have always taught that the churches should be an example to the community in appearance. Killeen was just flat out ugly and had been let go at this point in time. 

So when I made my next escrow deposit, I calmly asked the teller, would you please write down the balance of this account so I can check it against my books? My books said zero. She started writing and just kept right on writing! The figure that she wrote down about knocked me on my "donkey"! A little redneck lingo there for ya! She wrote down the sum of $279,000.00.

My first thought was what "your pastor" said to me on the phone, "How much do you have in your GF?" So I couldn't wait to get in my van and make the call. I said to "your" pastor", Sir, there's $279,000 in the escrow here. We could build a whole new complex. All I want to do is make some repairs. He very sternly said to me, "Reed, that's not your money." I said, Sir, I know that. All I want to do fix this church up. It's not for me.

Two years went by and one day out of the blue, I got a phone call, Reed, we're going to do some work down there. I thought to myself, this is so typical. He's got it set up that he looks like the big savior coming on the scene, and lets the local pastor know who's really in charge. I thought, well, at least the buildings are going to get fixed now.

BTW, during our time in Killeen, we did take up special offerings for a brand new piano and church sign. Many times in my infamous "career" with NTCC

Jeff said...

It's crying shame and a recurring practice for New Testament Christian Church pastors to take up special offerings for keyboards and church signs when it's been proven that substantial amounts of money exist in the churches escrow accounts.  For the record:  I don't blame the individual church pastors as long as they get a conscience sooner than later and stop doing it.  You pastors need to get control of these escrow accounts and stop allowing the NTCC leadership to motivate you to play these "crook" games. Stop bleeding your people every time you need money and start holding RWD's feet to the fire to come off the orgs cash or you should  leave.  I've read too many stories where church pastors have tried to use their church funds only to get shot down by the New Testament Christian Church leadership and more specifically RDUB the swindler.  This is why I don't blame the church pastors, but the word is out now so ignorance ain't going to work when you stand before God.  Man the most basic of fundamentals in Christianity is to love they neighbor.  How can you claim to love them when you knowingly take their money when it's not even needed? Would you want them to do that to you?  You don't think church members need money also?   What if I went to my pastor and asked for help paying my mortgage when I knew I had ten times the amount needed to take care of it?   What do you think he'd call me if he found out?   A crook and a swindler.  Well that is R.W. Davis and Kekel and Olson and the whole general board.  RDUB has taught them how to be crooks and now they think is just "good business"; well it's not.  Church members are being taken advantage of.  NTCC pastors have told me, "well  you got to have a back up fund".  Rubbish.   

Have RWD and Kekel stop living like Kings and there is your back up fund.  Sell all the RV's and drive like normal people and there is your back up fund.   RDUB is a crook.   If you've ever given money to the NTCC (like I did) for things like church signs, (like I did) then you got taken to the cleaners.  You got bamboozled, hoodwinked, and the big flim flam.  The NTCC leadership will absolutely take up special offerings and raise money to pay for expensive church upgrades when substantial amounts of money already exist in the church accounts.  

For those of you who don't understand what I'm saying let me spell it out for ya.  It's like your child coming to you and asking for yet more money to attend a field trip, when you've already given your child the money and more than was needed in the first place.  Then you give them the extra money that they asked for, just to find out that they had more than enough money which they never even used. Do you get it now?   This has happened over and over again in the NTCC.  I wrote a check for $150 to pitch in for a church sign when I now know that without doubt the NTCC had more than enough money for 1000 church signs 50 times over.  To make a long story short, they'd rather spend your money than theirs, and guys like me were stupid enough to keep kicking it out.  You are a flat out idiot if you keep giving money to the NTCC now that you know the obvious.   The NTCC leadership USES people and it's just that simple.  They'd let you give your last dime before they'd part with their millions and then they claim that it was your duty and you really should  have given more. 

The NTCC sucks.

Jeff 

Where Is Your Hard Earned Money Going?

If you read about the last ten posts on the last thread (with an open mind), you'll can get a good idea where your money is going if you are a member of the NTCC. 


I spent many years as a member of the NTCC and during that time you were absolutely directed not to spend much time with people who the NTCC leadership considered to be "sinners".   It didn't matter who it was.   If your family members were considered sinners,  you were strongly urged not to deal with them any more than you had to.   If you sent money to your quote "sinner" family members, then it was common for an NTCC pastor to say it was the same as giving money to the devil.   You were encouraged not to even deal with your "sinner" family any more than you absolutely had to.  


Well the NTCC leadership and more specifically the Davis family does not even begin to follow the same standard.   It was discovered that RWD purchased a winter home down in Arizona.  Not a big deal in itself because RWD  is a millionaire.   I know he has invested to gain his fortune but you can be certain that throughout the years the money he's accumulated to invest originally came from NTCC contributors i.e. church members.   Well here is the problem.  You give your money to the NTCC, RWD invests it to gain a fortune and then he buys property.   Should he leave his property to a "sinner" or a "saint"?   What would the NTCC teach?   I know what they used to teach because I listened contrary to Mike Kekel's popular belief.  They would teach and have taught that everything you own belongs to God and you should distribute wisely what God has blessed you with.  They wouldn't advocate leaving your worldly possessions to a family member who was considered a sinner because that would be the same as giving Gods blessings to the devil.  I'm I right?  You better believe it.  Don't insult me by suggesting otherwise.


Well back to the house.  The blogger powers that be, posted a link with a document signed by RWD showing to whom he will be leaving his big fat house in Arizona when he and Verna die.  His grandson.   Is that strange?  Of course not, unless you are a member of the NTCC and your grandson decided to attend a secular CATHOLIC college rather than the NTCS and consequently according to NTCC standards he is considered a sinner.   So where is your hard earned money going that you so unwisely give to the NTCC in tithe and offerings?  Certainly a portion of it went to an $80,000 high school education at a very expensive private academy attended by RWD's grandson.  More of your money will go to expenses which will rapidly grow at the Catholic Sinner Secular college which is being attended by RWD's grandson.  Lastly, when RWD and Verna kick the bucket, they've willed their big fat Arizona house not to their daughter who went to the NTCS, but to their grandson who is attending a Sinner Catholic College.   Go copy the links and paste them in your address bar and hit enter and you'll see.  


Just like I was, you NTCC folks are so ignorant and stupid that many of you have completely forsaken you so called sinner family members and you hardly even deal with them any longer if at all. It's clear however that RWD and Kekel have done nothing of the sort.  Not only do they deal with Grant, but they fund all his endeavors with your money and your money which RWD invests to buy houses will go to Grant when RWD dies and here is the sick part.   You are so stupid, that you deprive your very own loving children who you brought into the world just to sacrifice for the NTCC just to have it go to a "SINNER".   Knowing this, I wouldn't give the NTCC one more penny of my money.  If you have children or a wife, and you are shopping for second clothing, and going without, and driving a raggedy old car, and you are giving your money to the NTCC thinking you giving as unto the Lord?  You are an idiot and I strongly believe that God would totally agree with my assessment.  


I love my family and they get things as a result of my income.   If I knew then what I know now, the NTCC wouldn't get one dime of my money.   Are you going to fund all of RWD's grandson's endeavors while depriving your very own children?   Are you going to fund his endeavors knowing he is attending a Secular Sinner Catholic College?  


For the record I don't consider the college Grant attends a "Secular Sinner Catholic College" but the NTCC always has, and if you say otherwise you are a flat out liar and you're deceiving yourself.   I do consider it a Secular Catholic College and if you want to throw the "sinner" part in, then according to NTCC standards you'd be exactly right.


It's sickening.


Jeff

If This Isn't An Eye Opener, What Is?

M.D. Reed wrote...

When I went to the PI and RWD came for a conference, I will never forget how he and JR Ashmore laughed in my kitchen, making fun of the Steven's for all the personal money they had spent on this work and then were pulled out. My thought was what do they say about me and others when we are not around.

Jeff said...

RWD is one sick, sadistic dude. Go ahead NTCC pastors, keep spending you own money on RWD's investments. See where that gets you. I wonder if you'll think it's funny when RWD laughs at you? Most of you are too brainwashed to even recognize what is happening. You think you are sacrificing for the Lord and RWD thinks you are an idiot and he laughs at you while his organization spends your money. I've been telling you guys this for years. If I were an NTCC pastor, knowing what I know now, I'd leave with my church so quick that Jeff Gordon couldn't catch me driving number 24. Graham wouldn't get a wooden nickle out of my church or my pocket for that matter. Stevens thought he was doing something for the Lord? HA! While RWD was laughing I'm sure he was thinking he'd never spend a dime of his money like that. Suckers, that's all I can say. There will always be poor and there will always be suckers.

Jeff

The Reeds

Hey everyone: The Reeds have a blog that is open for posting. Their blog was not established for the same reason as this one and that, I totally understand and respect. Their blog is not about the NTCC. It's about the Reeds, the Lord, and what they are doing for the Lord. That is not to say the NTCC won't ever come up, but that is not why their blog still exists. I'm sure they'd appreciate some visitors and I'm also sure they'd appreciate knowing that the friendships they established over the last 25 years haven't vanished just because they've decided to attend a different church.

The Reeds didn't suggest or ask me to post this. With very few exceptions I work independently however if the Reeds asked me to take down this thread I'd have no problem doing so. My association with M. Reed is pretty much limited to the time that we both lived in the same serviceman's home back in 1985. We've talked since but certainly not often. Having said that, we definitely were good friends back in 1985 when we were both in the Military stationed together at Ft. Hood. I just thought that folks might be interested in going to visit their blog. Below is a link and I've placed a link on my sidebar as well.

http://onelessstone.blogspot.com/

Jeff

Stuck In The Middle asked Jeff...

Are you a student? Have you pastored a church? How long have you been in?

Anonymous said...

So Jeff hasn't ever pastored a church in the Org. Yet, he's heard and seen enough with his own ears and eyes. He's been a witness to the acts that have been done in the name of the Lord. He's been a member of the church under various pastors. He's been a friend and confidant to many who've shared with him their horror stories. And.. he has integrity, he's never revealed things said to him in confidence.

I was a member for 32 yrs. I've seen, and heard a lot of stuff done in the name of the Lord. The gossiping of preachers and their wives. It would hurt many if I were to reveal the things said about them in private.

My brother in-law was taken off the board during one conference, because he didn't have the numbers in his church. Another preacher too, was taken off for the same reason, but he denies it was for that reason. Rev. Davis said the board members had to be examples to the other ministers. Yet... there are men on the board who’ve never had big churches. So what was he talking about? He would have had to remove Rev. Johnson, Rev. Olson and Rev. Difrancesco, Rev. Ashmore. John was shamed from the pulpit at another conference, it was said they didn't do a thing in Panama the first time they went!
I've heard and seen things done to my brother in-law and sister that will simply make you angry. Yet, behind closed doors my brother in-law weeps and my sister holds it in. But they just over look it and cry out to the Lord. Even if they did say something about it, what do you think will be said??? Yes, it would be brought out in public and said "they that love the law of the Lord nothing shall offend them. This verse doesn't give preachers the license to bully a child of God! John and Becky know the real deal. We've had talks before where I comforted them.

This going off the subject a little. But I want to show you how they work. Now.. my sister and I have no blood sister relationship at all. It's because Mike Kekel chose to reveal some private emails between him and my husband and Rev. Olson. My sister had no knowledge of this, it wasn't her business. Yet, he said the Holy Spirit led him to show them to her. He caused discord among the brethren, which is a violation of the by laws. If he's so in tune with the Holy Spirit, why didn't he listen to the Spirit telling him not to sow discord? Hmmm or was it the flesh saying thus saith Mike Kekel, blaming the Lord? So my sister automatically chooses the Org's side. John and Becky know the injustices that have taken place. It's just too late to do anything about it now. Their service is to the work of the Lord. Maybe too, their psychologically damaged. People love their abusers and begin to protect them after awhile... aah just remembered the name Stockholm Syndrome .

People may not leave but they sit in the pews with wounded spirits. Some don't feel worthy to be preachers, because that is how you're made to feel. The preacher in Graham brought in off the field. They're preached at by Rev. Davis "how long you gonna sit here" and other messages or comments made. Don't tell me it doesn't go on cause it does! There comes a time when you get tired of hearing about how you didn't do it right. When actually you did do what was taught.

Could it be that person is not in the place where the Lord wants them? Yet, the man who told Rev. Davis where God wanted him is blamed? He is shamed from the pulpit in front of church members and made out to be incompetent. In front of other preachers he's the example or Rev. Davis tells the group of ministers how bad of a preacher they are. This was done to my brother in-law.

My blood boils at the abuse my family has taken, and there are many preachers who have left because of things done and said to them like this! How long and how much does a person have to take before they wake up and see this relationship is abusive.I have never seen a church Org. that has been so abusive such as NTCC.

So for you to say preachers aren't run off by not having enough money or not having enough members in their church, YOU MISTER are living in a fantasy world! You also, have not experienced it yet. You want to hear that Rev. Davis said to ministers "leave". He won't say it face to face, but by the actions and in the messages it is done.

I also, don't agree with what you said "that if a man doesn't want to go somewhere their okay with it"? I've heard comments made about preachers not wanting to pastor here or there, they were over looked for other appointments. What planet are you on? You are drinking too much kool-aid my friend. Unless they have a new policy, or could it be from
the blogs that's cause them to change? I think not, because of how Rev. Reed was treated. But do you think they're going to ask forgiveness of all the people they've hurt throughout the years?

I say to you, your ignoring the things that go on. The signs of various acts are plainly there, you just don't want to face the facts. Some say they would have left sooner, but it was the fear of not being able to make it without the Org. Which is a totally false lie,that was fed to us. People are serving God not trying to please a man. The burden that is released is so powerful and amazing you'll feel like your 100's of lbs. lighter. And... No, we've not turned our lives over to the devil, thank you very much. This is the bondage that keeps you there, weighted down with the thoughts of what will they think?

Speaking from the heart as one who's been there and done that!

Greetings to all, I'm still the same after all these years! It's you and me Jesus, we sure fooled them all! = )

Reposted by Jeff

All The Man Cares About

RWD is interested in keeping one type of person around his organization. Look at the guy to the left and there you have it. This explains why RWD has no problem getting rid of old timers. He likes young new fresh recruits which will say, "YES SIR" to his every whim. The most important thing to RWD is having the ability to control people. RWD expects you to allow him to talk to you any way he wants, direct you to do what ever he wants, and he expects you to follow his directives without question. This explains why so many old timers leave the NTCC. Once they get smart to his ways, they start to question RWD and he can't stand that and he won't allow it for long. He is insecure in that regard. It's a game that RWD plays. He will hit you with a directive that he knows you don't want to perform and he's already prepaired to deal with you in certain way when you don't.

He is either going to call you out directly to your face or he will blast you the first chance that he can get from behind the pulpit while you're sitting in the congregation. When RWD has decided that he no longer has use for you, he's already devised a multitude of ways to effectively run you off without actually telling you that you must leave his church. In doing so, he can save face while proudly proclaiming, "Brother or Sister so and so left the church because they no longer loved or wanted to serve God."

You see, RWD is a control monger freak!!! Being in control of people is more important to him than anything. You can be a dud but if you let RWD control you, RWD has no problem with you sticking around. You can commit adultery and RWD can let you have it but as long as you say, "YES SIR", RWD has no problem with you sticking around. You can beat children, leave your wife and find a new one, be a useless pastor (according to NTCC standards), get accused of committing every kind of abuse imaginable, run off church members one right after another and still hang around the NTCC as long as you say to RWD, "YES SIR".

The minute you don't agree with one of RWD's stupid directives is the minute that he'll figure out a way to put the screws to you. He'll wrench down the vice on you so tight that you won't be sticking around much longer if you are any kind of man or woman. I've said this in the last couple threads. He doesn't care about your soul one single bit. RWD is smart enough to know when he is driving someone away from his church, so if he really cared, he wouldn't do it, but he doesn't care!!! If he did care he'd back off you long enough for you to rethink the situation but that is not what he wants. He wants control and nothing less. He figures if he can dog you to your face or directly from across the pulpit and you still stick around, then he has you where he wants you; right under his thumb. What he is doing is what the NTCC calls an "obedience check", and Mayers used to brag about doing it to his wife.

When RWD doesn't think he needs or wants you around any longer, you are getting ready to get dogged, and if you can live with being dogged out, than RWD can live with you sticking around "HIS" organization. It's like RWD said in conference: "I was here first and if you don't like it there's the door". RWD doesn't care if you stay or go, but you better allow him to control you as long as you are in his presents. With the NTCC leadership, it's just a big psychological game. Deliberately say something stupid to someone and as soon as they get mad, tell them they need to "pray through" while making them out to be the bad guy. Mayers said that he would wake up his wife in the middle of the night around 3am just to see if she'd get up to fix him a cup of coffee. He called it an "obedience check". NTCC pastors would tell racist jokes around black people just to see if someone would get offended and then the pastor would say, "Whoso loveth the law of the Lord, nothing shall offend them".

It's just a big psychological game and RWD is the master who's taught his pastors every psychological trick in the book. These are cult tactics that cult leaders use to gain control of their people. The main objective of a cult leader is to BREAK YOUR WILL. BREAK YOUR WILL. BREAK YOUR WILL. That is what the NTCC is doing with all these stupid obedience checks. You will either let RWD break your will or RWD will run you off, plain and simple. He is a control freaky deak. He is the big freak nasty control freak. I know what I'm talking about and that is why he doesn't want women to work on a job and that is a whole different topic but it deals with the same thing. Control, control, control, freak, freak, freak. That is what the NTCS is all about. BREAK YOUR WILL. Wayne Cantrell called it a boot camp.

Jeff

Not About Souls

Let me tell you how I know for sure that with RWD and the NTCC leadership, it's not about saving souls. Please read what I'm about write and consider my words. When Bro Bean brought his brother TB over to RWD's house, RWD may not have wanted company and I understand that. But when you are a Christian and your life is devoted to saving souls it's not about what you always want. You make sacrifices and deny yourself for the sake of others. So here is my logic.

RWD is a smart guy and I don't dispute that. He reads people and he often knows what makes people tick. RWD knew that if he gave Bro Bean's brother anything but a warm hearted, sincere welcome, (even though RWD didn't want someone coming over to his house) it could have an impact on TB's decision to have anything else to do with the NTCC. Then, in addition to that guaranteed fact, RWD is smart enough to know that when he sent someone to Bro Bean to notify him that he was wrong for going to RWD house, that TB would never have anything to do with the NTCC. You don't give a guy the cold shoulder and expect him to come back to your church and RWD knows that good and well. So why didn't RWD just suck it up, invite the guy in for coffee and cookies, make him feel at home, and never say a word to Bro Bean about coming to his house uninvited?

Because with RWD, it's not about souls. RWD simply didn't care if the mans brother ever came back to the NTCC and that is the reason he didn't even think twice about acting that way. The only thing that RWD cared about was not being bothered while making sure that it didn't happen again!!! All RWD is worried about is his privacy, the control he has over others, and making sure that the NTCC continues to bring in at least enough money to take care of his investments within the corporation. He doesn't have the time or patience for people to come over to his house unannounced, period. If you don't want people to come over to your house, move farther away from your cult compound and in the process forget about being a pastor/Christian leader. You are in the wrong field. Rename it the New Testament Christian Real-Estate Corporation. Take church out of the equation. RWD is a jerk. For years RWD has taught that every single solitary thing you do can affect souls but he doesn't even attempt to practice that himself when it counts. He'll run you away from his church in a heart beat before you even start coming.

How can anyone dispute what I just wrote? There could be nothing more logical in this world. If your church is the last hope for mankind, (which the NTCC has constantly maintained) and you care about souls, the last thing you would do is give a brand new guest the cold shoulder and that is exactly what RWD did to TB. RWD doesn't care about souls, he cares about control. He already has money so that is not as important to him as it is to have control over people.

Believe me when I tell you this, SOME PEOPLE LOVE POWER!!!!!! SOME PEOPLE LOVE POWER AND AUTHORITY!!!! SOME PEOPLE THRIVE ON HAVING POWER, AUTHORITY AND CONTROL OVER OTHERS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE AN EMOTIONAL HIGH.

RWD is that kind of guy and I'll guarantee it without doubt. I don't agree with it but I understand it and this is why? Because I used to work for a 3 Star General and everywhere we went people figuratively bowed down to that dude and because I was his enlisted escort / Aide, I got much of the same treatment. Everywhere we went people laid the red carpet out for us and because I was his right hand man, I got much of the same treatment. When people saw me they knew he wasn't far behind and I got treated like a King and I'm not kidding. The difference between me and RWD is that I didn't misuse my authority and RWD does constantly. I didn't treat people like they were beneath me and RWD does constantly. You think I didn't have authority? Out of over 17,000 people in Second Infantry Division, (not because of my rank but because of my position) I was one of the most powerful people in the entire Division. Full Colonels and General Officers treated me with MUCH respect because of who I worked for. If I told a Brigade Commander that the General wanted something to happen it was like it was coming directly from the General himself because people knew that I was his assistant. No one messed with me so I fully understand what it's like to have some SERIOUS Authority.

Well RWD has authority and he is a control freak and a bully and I know what I'm talking about. He doesn't care about souls. Listen to what I'm saying people. He cares about POWER, AUTHORITY, and CONTROL. These three and the greatest of these is none of them for a Christian servant. You can't understand others until you've walked in their shoes and where POWER, AUTHORITY and CONTROL is concerned I've walked in RWD's shoes. For the brief period of time that I had it (which was one year), I didn't let it get to my head. I'm currently working in a high level management position and I treat everyone with respect regardless of their position. And guess what, everyone I work with treats me the same way from the lowest to the highest. That is how you earn respect. Not by barking out orders. RWD is a control freak bully leader who is a good business man and that is all he is. I know guys like him because I work around one and no one respects him, they fear him. God help me to never become that kind of leader.

That is why I said I'd spit on RWD's front door step. My previous vulgar display of words was a deliberate show of disrespect toward RWD as a result of his disregard for Bro. Bean's family.

Jeff

The Failure Of So Many NTCC Men

Toward the end of the previous thread I stated some reasons why I wouldn't want my daughter to marry an NTCC man. I also stated how important it is for my daughter to be able to provide for herself. Let me recap. Too many NTCC men drive old broke down vehicles and wind up getting stranded on the side of the road. I know it can happen to anyone, but in the NTCC it happens far to often and I've witnessed it myself. Why does this occur as often as it does? In the NTCC women constantly talk about shopping at various thrift and second hand clothing stores. Why is this practice so abnormally prevalent in the NTCC? Why is it so common for NTCC people to live so far below the nations poverty level? I'll tell you why.

The NTCC leadership places all kinds of employment restrictions upon anyone who is either a minister or anyone who aspires to become a minister. Ministers and aspiring minister are only allowed to work certain jobs. They are ordered to work only certain hours of the day and certain days of the week. Following such mandates often results in them forfeiting the possibility of landing the best jobs available. They are brainwashed into believing that is the only way a Christian man should live for God. In the process these NTCC guys are taught by the example of their peers, to believe that it's "NORMAL" for them to live far below the poverty level. The end result is that many of them struggle financially for years and years. They drive old broke down cars and shop at second hand clothing stores and that becomes the norm but I'll guarantee that is not the norm for RWD. The NTCC system is exactly what creates this and people should want their daughters to marry into that mess? My daughter has more important things to talk about other than second hand shopping hot spots.

One day I remember Oberhauser's wife telling me that she really hoped that her husband could buy her a digital camera sometime in the near future. During that time her husband was having all kinds of vehicle problems with the one vehicle that they owned. Her statement about the camera stuck with me. You mean they were that broke? A digital camera? I felt so bad for her that I talked to my wife and considered buying her a digital camera. Well I'm glad I didn't. I didn't put them in that situation and neither did God. The NTCC leadership did and they took the bait hook line and sinker. You are one seriously broke man and woman if you can't even get a measly little digital camera and you are shopping for second hand clothing driving an old beat up van? I don't want my daughter to have any part of that whole situation and the last thing she needs is some old broke dude to have her stranded on the side of the road in some second clothes and who can't even buy her a stinkin digital camera of all things.

We ain't rich but my wife lives like Queen in comparison. She has more than one digital camera to choose from. When my wife wants something, either I buy it or she does, PERIOD. If I want something I buy it, obviously within reason because we ain't millionaires. I like a few things. nice guns, nice tools, and computers and I have a real nice collection of each. I also like a good chain saw. In fact I bought a brand new gun Saturday and why? Because I stopped letting the NTCC tell me when I could work and what jobs I could take. L.D. Jones tried to tell me that mess one night in Columbus because I sold new Toyotas. I'll guarantee that I treated my customers more fairly than most of these NTCC pastors have treated their church members, so who is the crook? I "CONSTANTLY" run into people who I sold cars and I'll guarantee if you were to talk to them in my absence, they'd have nothing but good things to say about me. I had a family drive two hours from out of town driving past one Toyota dealership right after another so the Son, Father, and Grandfather all on separate occasions could buy 3 brand new cars from me. Why? Because I proved to them they could trust me!!! That is a good feeling folks and that is the kind of reputation I have across about 10 counties. And I was supposed to quit that job because L.D. Jones said so? Who would you rather buy a car from? A good dude who cares about folks or a crook? Yes the car business has crooks and so is the NTCC so whats the difference? Jones wanted me to quit the car business but I didn't see him quiting the NTCC? Well, while Oberhauser was so broke that he couldn't pay attention I was selling a brand new van to one of his church members and he got the best deal that I could possibly get the dealership to give. So Oberhauser was living off of $150 a week because that is all a crook living in a mansion would pay him, while I was doing my best to save his church member thousands of dollars. Who's the crook Jones?

My daughter has been accepted into one of the best colleges in the nation and she is not going to be left high and dry by some NTCC dude who thinks he is worth no more than $150 a week. If she finds a good prosperous man to take care of her that is fine but if he leaves her like I've seen happen in the NTCC, she is going to have the skills and degree needed to take care of herself and she ain't going to have to worry about whether or not she can get a digital camera. In fact, if she wanted a digital camera tomorrow I'd go out and buy her a nice Canon just to prove a point. Y'all can let the NTCC suck up all your opportunities and money if you want to but I'm not the one. Those days are over and here is the funny part. I don't want my daughter to live in poverty and RWD won't let Tanya live like that either. That is why she is teaching at the NTCS and your wife isn't. Many of you will let your wives and daughters ride around in an old broke down car, in second hand clothing but me and RWD have a better plan for ours. You better believe that Grant won't be riding around like that either. He is going to a secular college and it ain't the NTCS, and that's what makes my family and the Kekels a whole lot smarter than many of you. Mike Kekel and I don't buy off on that NTCC mess, and that is why our children will be attending a good secular college that gives out real degrees which result in good jobs. Oh I'm wrong about Mike? Is his kid going to the NTCS? I rest my case. Mike didn't have to send him off to college? He could have joined the Army and gone off to war like your kids and he could have stayed in a serviceman's home. Oh he doesn't want to serve God? Mike didn't have to send him to college, HE WANTED TO!!!!!!!!

My wifes digital camera is getting old, she might need a new one. She can't get a digital camera? That is what I call the "hoodwink" and poverty level thinking. These folks should say, "wait a minute, you mean I can't even afford a digital camera?" Something is wrong with this picture. The Kekels are living in a museum and I'm only getting $150 a week to pastor a serviceman's home and I can't even buy my wife a digital camera? How blind.

Jeff

Life Is Good

I'm off for the weekend and I'm taking it easy. Has anyone noticed that the NTCC church locator is down on the NTCCs official website? It must not be too important to the NTCC leadership for people to be able to find an NTCC church. Their church locator has been down for a while now. The NTCC certainly has enough money to keep a website up and running if they want to. If the NTCC leadership wants something to work it will. Update: The locator is back up. I guess they wanted it to work. Well good, I can get in touch with NTCC pastors again when I want to and I can find out who's left and who's still around.

On to another subject. Is there anyone out there who is into firearms? I am. My wife and I both have concealed carry licenses. We are living in a unlawful world. People are running around trying to hold folks up all the time. It's good to be prepared to protect yourself or your family in the event that your life is threatened.

I've already taken my boy to the indoor range. For a little fellow he shoots pretty good. My dad was a WWII veteran and he taught me to shoot at a fairly young age. Probably about the same age as my son when I taught him to shoot. We can shoot right on my property because I'm far enough out in the country and there aren't many houses around here. I was out there shooting one day when the pest control guy came. He didn't mind. He may have watched for a little bit. Anyway it's a fun hobby and a great means of self defense against seriously violent criminals. Home invasions are on the increase and you don't want to fall victim to someone who wants to rape and plunder while placing your life in jeopardy. It's something to keep in mind you NTCCers. I know for certain that one of your overseers carries a gun in his RV for protection. Nothing wrong with that. It's a smart more. So don't go getting so spiritual on me by saying, "I don't need a gun, God is my protection". You may want to tell your overseers that and see what kind of response you get. That's ok; if someone attacks you and your family all you have to do is hold your fingers up together in the sign of a cross. That will certainly run off a villain. How in the world did I get on this subject?

Jeff

You Can't Be Serious

On his blog, Pastor Kekel referenced this statement...

"One of the biggest enemies of aging Ministers is their fear that they won't be taken care of in their old age. This fear causes them to resort to secular education and employment, abandoning the call of God; but the key is taking care of their old age, in their youth. Then, the wives go on jobs too, which is against the bible, and they find that the same spending habits that got them into the mess, rob them of happiness, even with a double income."

Jeff said...

This absolutely amazes me that Pastor Kekel would reference this paragraph. Here is the first piece of irony surrounding what was written. Pastor Kekel referenced a statement which mentioned secular college attendance as though it's a bad thing. His son is attending a secular college so in my opinion it's quite nervy for Pastor Kekel to even post such a statement. I know the Kekels say that Grant wasn't called and Grant is not saved but that is just an excuse given by them in order to cover up their failure as Christian parents. Personally I don't think they failed however, in conference, I listened to RWD say that you were a failure as a Christian parent if your child didn't go to the NTCCs Bible school. That means everyone to include the Kekels. Not only that but you are telling me that it's wrong for a minister to better himself by attending college? So your telling me that God doesn't want college students to be Christians or preachers? So if God had his way we'd shut down every college? So you can't be a minister and go to college part time but you can be the Kekel's son and go to college full time? Are you kidding me? It's my understanding that Pastor Kekel didn't author this statement but why would he even use it as reference material if he didn't share the same views?

And how in the world are you going to take care of your old age in your youth when you are spending every dime you earn just trying to start up a pioneer church or take over a church that doesn't have hardly any members in it? That is easy for Pastor Kekel to say when he has it made up in Graham having been handed the NTCCs biggest church on a silver platter with a never ending cash flow. Oh yeah, that is really easy for him to say but it's not so easy for the dudes and their wives out in the field. And then he writes "Then, the wives go on jobs too, which is against the bible".

Where in the bible does it say that? Proverbs Chapter 31? The last time I checked, Pro 31 commended women who worked by referring to them as "virtuous". And for the 99th time, being a "keeper at home" means to be a good house keeper. I looked it up in the Strongs concordance that my NTCC pastor told me to purchase. Being a keeper at home doesn't mean that a women can't work. The NTCC leadership makes up their own rules and then they lie by saying you've committed an offense against the Bible when in reality you've only gone against their rule and in this case it's a rule which can't be supported by scripture. If a women doesn't want to work thats fine. If the husband doesn't want her to work thats also fine but it's not fine when you make something up about the Bible that doesn't exist.

Their spending habits didn't get them into that mess, the NTCCs completely messed up system put them in that mess and has kept them in that mess. Make me the pastor of the Graham church and I'd also be rolling in dough like the Kekels. Send my out to start up a church from nothing, make me place huge percentage of my revenue into an escrow account that I have no control over, have me send yet another huge percentage of money to Graham and then have the nerve to tell me that I placed myself in a financial mess? What an insult. Any NTCCer who buys off on this notion is no more than a complete sucker and blind as a bat. How can you NTCC folks remain so ignorant? Yes I was ignorant also but I didn't have access to all this information which clearly displays what the NTCC is really all about.

WAKE UP FOLKS,

Jeff

What A Waste!

This is what you'll look like when the NTCC is about finished with you.

However you'd better get up and run and never turn back.

Without getting into details, I've been notified that another NTCC couple has left the organization. I didn't know the wife but I do know the husband and he has been with the NTCC for approximately 26 or 27 years. He's been the pastor of countless NTCC churches including those oversees. He's punched just about every NTCC ticket you can punch. I know he has been with the NTCC at least since 1984 or 85. You do the math. The NTCC, (with RWD the abusive JERK leading the way with this one) has ran off yet another long time member / minister. Same old tactics, nothing's changed. Old ornery, bully, RWD pointing his finger in the man's face. RWD needs a good punch right in the nose.

Get this folks and get it good. Roger W. Davis is an abusive, bully, male chauvinist, narcissistic, tyrant who doesn't know the first thing about common decency. If you are not a part of RWD's family you don't mean squat to him. Don't flatter yourself by thinking you are important to RWD just because he recognized you during conference and slapped you on your sweaty back, and punched you in your shoulder. You mean nothing to him. He will run you off just like he did this man who's been with the NTCC for over a quarter century. This pastor who just left the NTCC was personally invited to stay in the lodge with RWD during one of the last conferences that I attended. Have you ever stayed in the lodge with RWD during conference? Even if you did, he'll run you off just like he did this guy. I hate the NTCC. This man just dedicated over 25 years of his life to a group who's leader (RWD) considered him as little more than dung. If you want to find a good way to waste a major portion of your life, just keep sticking around the NTCC and you'll do just exactly that. Y'all better wake up. I'd rather leave now having wasted 10 -15 years of my life than to ignore posts just like this one and find out later that I wasted 20 - 25 -30 years just to go out into this world during a recession. At best you'll have an entry level job and a wife with no marketable skills whatsoever.

Buddy, your involvement with the NTCC can rapidly turn into your worst nightmare. Life ain't no game and it ain't no joke when you find yourself having to start your (get this) first real career at almost the age of 50 without having ever really invested in social security. You can serve God and have a real job at the same time. Oh you can't??????? So you are telling me only non-Christians should have a job. What about the scripture that says that if a man doesn't work he should not eat. You better make sure your family is taken care of folks because the NTCC won't. The New Testament Christian Church will really mess you up.

Jeff

Superbowl XLV

Boy am I a dirty rotten sinner; I watched the Superbowl. Well I figured that if Pastor Kekel's son was allowed to play football throughout high school, there couldn't possibly be anything wrong with me watching the Superbowl. Do you think? Is it a sin to watch it but not a sin to play it? While I was in the NTCC I was taught that it was all a sin, but thanks to the Kekels, I was able to mature spiritually and discern right from wrong all by myself. Because the way I figure it, if it's ok to play football, it's ok to watch it. It was a great Superbowl. I hope none of you NTCCers missed it.

Oh I almost forgot. You guys had church tonight. Even though it's not a sin to watch the Superbowl it would be a sin to miss your 5th service of the week and God forbid the NTCC doesn't got that last weekly offering. I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to start a church and have 7 services a week, (one every day) and if someone misses a service, I'll preach: "forsake not the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some is", and then that way, I can get two extra offerings. Ha, ha. I'll just make sure I don't hold service on Sunday evening so I don't miss too many games during football season. Hey why not? If it's good enough for Pastor Kekel's son, it's good enough for me.

Jeff

The NTCC's Dirty Secrets... Homosexuallity In Full Force... I Would Have Never Believed It... A First Hand Account!

This is the real deal folks with names and everything. This is what puts folks in jail. R.W. Davis covered up the whole thing. Click the link and read the story. This trumps all. The NTCC is a CULT all the way and they've covered this stuff up for years. I knew the NTCC leadership was dirty but just not this dirty. It's not as much about the act it is about the cover-up by the NTCC leadership.

All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Open your mind and read the story people. Click on the link below. Now this is a Smoking Gun. RWD would have turned this in to the proper authorities if he wanted to do the right thing, but that would have cut off his cash cow; the Military. Sooner or later the NTCC will no longer be able to fly under the radar and their time may have come with this one. Click the link folks.

http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/

Jeff

Barnes Is A Stone Cold Jerk

This is a picture of Barnes going berserk.

I note from a lady who visited the Jackson M.S. NTCC...

I was invited to visit a church by a long time acquaintance. She said she has been going there for 2 years and she really likes it. I went Sunday (1/30/11). The preacher was blasting rich people and all their possessions. I started looking through my bible for the scripture, "But we know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, for our sakes he became poor that we might be rich, that through his poverty we might be rich.

After I placed my Bible on the pew, the preacher came out of the pulpit with mike in hand and asked who I was. I told him. He asked my acquaintance if she had invited me. She said yes pastor. He asked me if I thought he was mean. I said "Sir, I don't know anything about you." He said you've got some opinion about me; you're looking through your bible. He stopped bending over me and stood up straight. I quoted the scripture that I had been searching for. He said I know that scripture and started walking back toward the front. Thats not what I'm talking about. You need to get your facts straight before you start challenging people. I said you came to me. He whirled around, pointed his finger at me and with mike to his mouth said, SHUT UP! in a deep and gruff voice.

I sat there a few minutes and listened to him. He went back to the pulpit and started giving his resume, saying how he has preached all over the world, and he studies his bible, and he knows what hes talking about. I told my acquaintance that I was leaving, I'm never coming back, and I'm taking my offering with me. She said softly no, no, stay. Don t go. I waited awhile longer. He never got back to the Bible. He stated, Ive got money. I put three children through college. Ive got a bank account. I got a new car backed up out there...pointing toward the parking lot. I asked her to give me a reason why I should stay after this man had told me to shut up. She started writing a note.This is my church home.

The preacher blasted her calling her by name saying, "If she is distracting you". I told her I'm leaving. I gathered my things and stood up. He blasted me again and had the congregation clap because I was leaving. I said no, let me clap because I'm leaving, y'all are making a mockery out of Jesus Christ!

I went to the guest registry and stated scratching out my name and address. A fat woman came to me huffing and puffing and said stop that. I didnt stop but told her that I didn't want my name on their registry. She was looking mean and grabbed my hand hard and said well take care of that, you need to leave. Another fat woman came to me and said ma'am you need to leave! The first one let me go. I told them not to contact me for any reason. I turned to walk away when I heard a male child running up behind me saying, You cant treat my daddy like that! I heard a man tell him sternly Boy, get back in that church! I never looked back.

I got in my car; drove to where my husband was at church. I told him all about what had happened to me. He said where is this church? Were going to see that preacher. They had no business laying a hand on you. He had no business shouting at you and telling you to shut up.
We were met outside in the rain by the assoc. pastor. My husband asked, Are you the pastor? The man said, Im the Assoc. Pastor. He said Id like to see the pastor. The man said, Hes in his study. My husband said, I want to know what happened here today, and why yall disrespected my wife. The man said, Sir no one disrespected your wife. You don't know the whole story. My husband asked three times, "What is the whole story"? The man never opened his mouth he just clenched his lips. A man in a green suite opened the door and stood there and asked my husband 3 times, Were you here with your wife today? My husband did not answer. The man told my husband that he was wrong for not answering his question. Then he said that we were on their property. I told my husband to lets go. As we were leaving I left them with this comment. This is not a church, this is a cult and I'm going to put you on blast! New Testament Christian Church located at the corner of TV Road and 5005 Barrier Place
Jackson, MS 39204 (601) 372-6137 Pastor L. C. Barnes

The Lack Of Common Decency

It was recently reported to me that the Olson's crossed paths with a man who was previously with the New Testament Christian Church. They were all traveling on the same aircraft to the same destination. The man said that he saw the Olsons and he was sure that the Olsons had also noticed him but they didn't acknowledge his presence nor did they greet him. After they crossed paths a few times the man decided that the decent thing to do was to speak and greet the Olsons. The man said that Mr. Olson didn't reply or even speak to him in return. He also said that Mrs. Olson seemed surprised as though she hadn't previously noticed him despite the fact that they'd come virtually face to face on a few occasions.

The fact is, this is just another example of an NTCC leader, (if that is what you want to call him because I wouldn't) who does not possess common decency. Mr. Olson is simply a brainwashed, butt kissing, suck-up who's a virtual RWD drone. I could care less if we'd parted ways. The decent thing to do is at least reply and return the greeting but many of these NTCC snobs don't possess common decency. They really don't. It's all a facade with them. NTCC leaders are interested in two things. "We missed you in church on Sunday Brother". "When will you be back"? "Can we expect to see you on Thursday for service or Tuesday for Bible study"? "We'll be praying for you". "You haven't payed your tithe Brother"? "You don't want to miss the next Bible study because we'll be teaching on tithing". "It'll be a blessing to you Brother".

What a complete joke. I can't believe just how superficial these NTCC clowns are. They don't care that your son had to go to the hospital. They don't care that your wife is having a baby because they will sure have her out soul winning. They don't care if you loose your job, your wife, your children or your parents. They care about two things and it's obvious because that is what they are always concerned with. "Are you going to make it to church on Sunday and are you going to pay your tithe." Period point blank end of story. Money and numbers, and that is straight from RWD's mouth. I can't stand these guys and I hate their attitudes. To put it plainly, they are flat out jerks. They definitely don't possess brotherly love. They will "act" like they love you as long as you attend church as much as humanly possible and as long as you pay tithe. Tell me I'm lying. All you NTCC folks who read this blog; come on here and tell me that I'm lying. Miss paying your tithe and back off some of those church services and watch how rapidly their attitudes change toward you.

Jeff

Life After The New Testament Christian Church; Cursed Or Blessed?

I've raised this question because of my recent experiences leading up to and through the holidays. Sometime after Christmas, I began to think about just how good life has been recently since I left the NTCC. Let me quantify this statement. I have a great job which is as good as I could have ever hoped for and better than any job I ever had while I was with the NTCC. I had almost 2 weeks off during the Christmas holidays with full pay. I get 4 days off for every federal holiday that exists. I earn a great salary, fantastic vacation benefits/time off. Health care benefits which are of no additional cost to me and cover my entire family. Dental care which costs next to nothing and covers my whole family and a huge life insurance policy which will take care of my family in the event that I have an untimely death. Great daytime work hours and weekends off. A fantastic retirement plan. Need I go on? My family and I are currently in the middle of a holiday / Christmas vacation where we are all off work or school at the same time for nearly two weeks or more. Everything is working out far better than I could have possibly dreamed of and that is an understatement.

So where are all the curses which NTCC preachers boldly proclaimed would be awaiting anyone who unwittingly decided to leave their sacred organization? What happened to the eminent financial destitution? Where are all the family problems? Where is the pain and sorrow that NTCC preachers promised would come? I'll tell you where it all is. NTCC preachers/false prophets are full of crap and I have no problem saying so. It was no more than a scare tactic used to convince people that leaving the NTCC would be a fate worse than death itself. It was a scare tactic used for no other reason than to try and keep people in the NTCC for the NTCC leadership's own selfish reasons.

I like having "a lot" of time off, which I get. I like spending much time with my family, which I do. I like living in a nice house, which I have. I like seeing my wife driving in a safe, reliable car, which she has. I like not having to constantly be concerned with money, which I have. I like seeing my kids being well taken care of like Pastor Kekel's son, which they are. I'm convinced that had I stayed in the NTCC, I wouldn't have the good life which I enjoy right now. Life was a struggle in the NTCC; that is if you followed their rules. Oh, and I don't get my money from a bunch of struggling church members. I like what Paul said. "I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself." I'd like to see an NTCC minister try that one. NTCC ministers won't do that because they think they are entitled. NTCC ministers are a bunch of spoiled brats who quite often are afraid of keeping a real job. They think everyone should take care of them but it's clear that Paul didn't think that the Corinthian Church was going to take care of him and he didn't allow it. What? Paul made the whole Corinthian church go to hell? I don't think so.

I know a guy who lives here in Columbus, Georgia who has been with the NTCC for years and years. He and I used to be in the same NTCC church before I left. He feels like he lives a good, prosperous life and he does. He gives God all the glory for his prosperity but there is a catch, (at least according to NTCC standards). He attributes his financial success to the fact that he pays tithes, but there is another catch, (at least according to NTCC standards). His wife has had a job as long as they've been married. She hosts her own TV show. She attends a different church while he attends the NTCC. He has a TV in his house. She wears pants and cuts her hair and so on. He works during the week in the evening time, (by his choice) which results in him missing services. Face it; he has never genuinely followed the NTCC rules so sure he has it good. Stick a dress on his wife and pull her out of the work force and cut off that extra income and live by a schedule where he "never misses services" and see just how miserable life becomes. He'd loose his job. Pull the TV completely out of his house like we did. Let him tell his wife that he is leaving her to go to the NTCS because she doesn't want to "get in" or make her life so miserable that she leaves him like so many other NTCCer's have done before. Sure this guy has it good because he has never genuinely followed the NTCC rules and anyone else who has it good in the NTCC doesn't and hasn't followed the rules either to include the Kekels and the Davis'.

How can you NTCCers, who claim to be Christians, live such hypocritical lives while claiming you are a part of some great spiritual organization knowing what I write is totally true? I don't know how you guys do it? Where in the world is your conscience? Do you even have one? The only reason you stay with the NTCC is to save face or because you are too blind and brainwashed to face the facts. I don't care how the NTCC has changed or if it's getting quote, "better". You guys who've been around the NTCC for a while know how it used to be or have you forgotten so quickly? At a minimum, (if I were an NTCCer) I would have no faith or trust in guys like Davis, Olson, Jones and Ashmore.

Well I live a good life now since I've left the NTCC, and do you call that being cursed? You decide.

Jeff