A while back, Mike Kekel wrote an article on his blog called "Ain't Misbehaven". I'm astounded that Mike would even publish and openly display such information. Approximately one year ago I posted an article referencing what Mike wrote titled "The Irony Of It All". Directly below is a link which will take you straight to that article. Anyway, I wanted to repost what M.C. Kekel wrote because I'm still amazed that he'd be so careless as to throw his father-in-law, RWD under the bus in such a fashion. Either that, or it's part of yet another New Testament Christian Church master plan to allow in what they've called "compromise" for decades.
M.C. Kekel wrote and I quote...
"I do not make the rules, and have only recently had opportunity to affect them. In the past I have only been in the unfortunate position of having to enforce them. That doesn't mean I agreed with them. If so be they were mistakes, they weren't mine. As for the church organization? I have nothing to do with policies and doctrines of the organization concerning things like TV (which ministers aren't to have if they carry license in NTCC- unless it is solely as a gaming monitor or something, and not connected to TV input) and couldn't change them if I wanted to. If that gets changed, Rev. Olson will have to do it by mandate or through board approval. I have no such power. Even in the Bible School realm I am limited."
"My influence on the bible school rules has only been to lighten them, not increase them. Further, since I wasn't a bible school student during that time, I was not UNDER those rules. The sports rule was not bible based to begin with, and was for bible school students. Not me."
Chief said...
These statements absolutely amaze me!!!!!! They're jaw dropping. I don't know how anyone in the New Testament Christian Church could ignore these statements if they have a conscience or any intelligence or common sense. Do you really trust the NTCC leadership with the task of guiding you to heaven? Really? There are two people who are key leaders in the NTCC; namely R.W. Davis and M.C. Kekel. These statements (written by one NTCC executive board member, namely M.C. Kekel) made a complete mockery of the Founder of the NTCC, namely R.W. Davis. Who do you think came up with all the rules and or endorsed every last one? RWD!!! Basically Mike wrote, (and of course I'm paraphrasing here) that he was the unlucky scapegoat who had the dubious distinction of having to enforce a bunch of bogus rules that he didn't agree with and had nothing to do with in the first place. Boy if that ain't throwing RWD, and the rest of the general board under the bus, I don't know what in the world is?
Listen here, armed with this information, I'd have no reason to believe that God inspired one single rule that RWD ever spewed out of his big fat mouth. "Ask permission to go visit who"? "Ask permission to stop where"? "Ask permission to accept a job"? "Ask permission to date or talk to who"? "Stand against the wall just to talk to a woman"? "You said it's a sin for all women to work"? "Where is that rule found in the Bible, Proverbs 31"? "REALLY, ARE YOU SERIOUS, ARE YOU KIDDING ME"?
Obey them that have rule over you? When I know that they have a history of coming up with a bunch of bogus rules that Kekel doesn't even agree with, and he considers himself to be unfortunate for even having to enforce them? REALLY? Huh!! Never again. I'm a grown man with a family to look out for. You can follow a bunch of stupid rules and con artists if you want to but I'm not the one.
Chief
P.S. I wouldn't follow M.C. Kekel or RWD to find a toilet (say no less as spiritual leaders) if I had diarrhea.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 204 of 204anonymous said: Just because you get saved at ntcc doesn't mean that that is the only place God is.
I'll take it further. Just because you think you get saved in the NTCC doesn't mean God is there at all! It also doesn't mean you got saved. I have my doubts about the salvation of any ministers in the NTCC. Are you really saved when you are part of an organization that does no more than take advantage of people? I doubt it.
And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
To me the ntcc is no more than the blind leading the blind. Their whole system is messed up. People in the ntcc are not doing the will of God, I'll tell you that. Not according to the bible. Jesus taught about the good Samaritan. He used that as an example. Since when have you seen anyone in the ntcc act like the good Samaritan? Samaritans had nothing to do with Jews but the good Samaritan took care of the Jew anyway. Since when has anyone in the ntcc took care of anyone outside the ntcc? For that matter when do they take care of people within the ntcc? I don't think people in the ntcc know the first thing about love or Jesus or salvation. Loving thy neighbor is about a whole lot more than getting people to come out to your church to pay tithe and get blasted. I don't think people in the ntcc are saved, not according to the bible that I read. Love thy neighbor? Since when has that happened in the ntcc? Leaving people in your own church stranded on the side of the road just because you couldn't get permission to give them a ride? You call that saved? From what? Straight sinners help people who are stranded on the side of the road.
No, ntcc people don't know about Jesus. The only Jesus they know is the ntccs version. That ain't Jesus.
Anonymous wrote: ”…but in graham, I've seen certain ministers looking around from the back and checking off a list. I think the list is comprised of those in your soul winning group, but I'm not 100% sure on that one. Anyone else seen that before?”
Gregory writes: Yes. NTCC churches are set up as a militaresque chain of command as follows…
Senior Pastor
Assistant Pastor (used to be called a helper)
Lay Pastor
Soul Winner
Faithful
Contacts (put into different categories i.e. first time visitors, etc.)
In Graham you can see evidence of this at Saturday soul-winning meeting. Around the Temple everyone will be seated in groups according to which Lay Pastor they serve/work under.
See the following link for the documentation:
http://www.slideshare.net/dsorgs/soul-winners-guidebook
A huge Data Base is maintained. When you are contacted you are assigned a serial number in the data base, and the dossier on you is built up from there. This contains every bit of information they have ever been able to find out about you. Of course there is the usual name, address, phone, email, entries (most of this is pulled from the guest book entries). But also, kids names, ages, hobbies, pets, job, a summary of what is said during each visit (especially about the leadership/preacher), likes, dislikes, etc. This information is also printed out on forms that are circulated among the soul-winners.
Area maps are printed out, and distributed to the teams. Areas are divided up in a grid pattern to facilitate a 100% canvas of an area. When all attempts to get you out to church have failed (after many multiple visits), your information is still maintained in the data base in the “inactive” category The data base is built using MS Access. Letters and envelopes (to be mass mailed to you) are also printed out from this data base.
Also, 100 doors knocked on during a 3 hour “blitzkrieg” (per 2 person team, no children allowed) is what is expected. The goal is to “…really press them to commit.” (See above link)
Yours in Him,
Gregory
Seriously?
You better believe it.
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