Mike Kekel Is So Full Of It. He's Such A Manipulative Con Artist.

This was first posted on 3/22/09

Thread #7 The three paragraphs below were written by Mike Kekel in response to Sergeant First Class Johnson's inquiries.

I didn't include his entire response because it's quite long. I wanted to address these three paragraphs in particular because frankly they are insulting to anyone with the ability to think for themselves and rightly recall the way things truly were and are in the New Testament Christian Church. Mike Kekel has willfully misrepresented the facts as I will clearly illustrate in my response. Please read Mikes response to SFC Johnson and then below that read my response to Mike's statements. 

Mike Kekel wrote:

1. My reply to your questions concerning my son playing sports is already on my blog, I think that I stated my reasons and the church’s stand on this quite plainly. Here’s the dictionary definition of lascivious (adjective) (of a person, manner, or gesture) feeling or revealing an overt and often offensive sexual desire: he gave her a lascivious wink. I don’t think football pants apply here, because they are all padded, cover the knees and do not stimulate sexual desire. (Of course there are people who find feet stimulating for that matter, but those kinds of problems are within them.) When he played basketball (over three years ago, and people knew about it) he was covered below the knee with baggy pants and wore a shirt with sleeves under the tank top.

2. The soul-winning program taught and implemented here in Graham, WA is nothing like you had under Hanna. He did what R. Denis told him to do, even back then. We have a two-hour soul-winning on Saturday, sometimes 3 for door-knocking days. That doesn’t include travel, but still it is short. It is made known that this is voluntary for church members, but students and ministers of course, are expected to be there. There is a voluntary (for all) soul-winning on weeknights in which a small group participates. We do not practice public humiliation of people for soul-winning inefficiencies or participation. The team leaders are restricted to this, and constantly reminded not to guilt trip people into giving more than 3 hours of the 168 hours in a week. Soul-winning should be an act of love for God, not an Egyptian slave-drive.

3. Don’t you find it interesting that Eric Hanna under whom you suffered such mistreatment, is no longer with us? The Organization would never have condoned the behavior you described. As under shepherds under the great Shepherd we will give an account of our works. The NTCC Seminary believes and teaches that the ministry is a sacred trust, and by definition is a life of service to God and people. Your issues are with Eric Hanna and his wife not NTCC. Did you ever report their behavior to a board member or overseer?
 

Chief's responses below to paragraph 1:

First I also looked up the word "Lascivious" in the dictionary and there were more definitions offered than Mike decided to calculatedly include. What that means is that Mike deliberately left out "other definitions" that were also listed in the dictionary. Here they are:

1. arousing desire: lascivious photographs 2. indicating sexual interest or expressive of lust or lewdness: a lascivious gesture

These additional definitions paint a different picture. How about the definition: "arousing desire." We have all seen football players in TIGHT football pants before; true? Butts,  leg muscles and private parts tightly gripped by the pants reveling all the bodily curvature. Lets be real here; how many women do you suppose will find a man more sexually appealing in tight football pants verses a baggy set of overalls? Does that type of tight clothing not arouse sexual desire? Ask 20 women who aren't fake and see what their answer is? Mike your statement insults our intelligence. Women go crazy over guys in football pants and this is no mystery Mike. For the record, I could care less whether or not boys or men play football or for that matter I could care less about this whole lascivious issue. That is not my point. Anyone who has been in the New Testament Christian Church any length of time knows that at least 95% of the NTCC pastors to include RWD preached against the wearing of such tight clothing and they used the same logic that I just gave to support their claim. Every NTCC pastor that I ever had, (which was a total of 6) spoke or preached against this stuff and you know it Mike. Just admit that you want the old NTCC standards changed and stop being a liar because you know what you are saying is not true. You act like this stuff has been acceptable all along and that simply is not the case. Come on people, stop kidding yourselves because you know what I have written is true. Time to go to the next topic because this one is beginning to make me sick. 

Chief's responses below to paragraphs 2 & 3:

You said the soul winning program was nothing like the one that he had under Hanna. Well Mike, apparently you forgot to tell that some of the other pastors. You also forgot that I sat in the conference where "YOU" talked about the blitz creek approach. Thats right, you taught it Mike. You made it like we were going to our very last battle and I remember that fact clearly. You also talked about knocking on "100" doors. Mike that is not exactly a leisurely walk in the park like you made it out to be in your previous paragraph. You also talk about giving 3 hours out of 168 and that approach is once again deliberately "Manipulative" Mike. Lets take a look at the 168 hours as if it is all free time. Estimated time may very: (7 hours a day for sleep = 49), (8 hours a day for work = 40), (1.5 hours a day just to drive back and forth for work = 7.5) and for many folks that is a conservative estimate, (2 more hours a day and this includes all meals to feed your face and feed your kids = 14), (1.5 hours a day times 5 just driving back in forth to all the NTCC church services and this is conservative because you can't forget all the folks that you always wanted us to pick up for church = 7.5), (yard work for those of us that have to take care of our own yards that haven't been told by you to sell our house to move all over the nation unlike you = 2), (being in church in the NTCC = approx 6 hours a week and that is conservative Mike after all the stuff that the NTCC would have you do and for most folks it probably = 10 hours). Lets add this up. 10+ 2+ 7.5+ 14+ 7.5+ 40+ 49= 130 and that was a very conservative estimate because add another 1 hour for sleep or figure in school time and school work if you are in the bible school and you would easily come to over 140 or even 150 hours spent a week before you even thought about soul winning. I just took a hugh chunk out of that 168 so you need to stop, as you said, "GUILT TRIPPING" folks into soul winning because that is exactly what you just did when you talked about 3 out of 168. It was a manipulative guilt trip tactic and you are just as bad as the ministers that you mentioned when you used that tactic Mike.

Also Mike you put it all on Denis and Hanna? That is weak! Hanna was your man and you know it and Denis isn't the one who placed him in Savannah and all the other places that Hanna pastored at. Hanna was a minister long before Denis was in charge. You all thought Hanna was great until he got tired of your mess. RWD had to approve every pastoral placement and you were involved also Mike. Not only that, I spent time around Denis and he was quite a bit like so many other pastors that I have seen in your organization to include your father in law. Who do you think taught Denis and placed him in all those positions Mike? Your father in law; the great founder of the NTCC. Don't blame Denis or Hanna, blame your father in law Mike. Get real.

Also Mike stated that: "The Organization would never have condoned the behavior you described." Then you asked: "Did you ever report their behavior to a board member or overseer?"

Chief wrote...
 

The Organization does condone that type of behavior because I complained to three different overseers about Mayers who is way worse than Hanna by far and Mike Kekel even admitted to me that Mayers displays deplorable behavior as a pastor. Other pastors and overseers have made the same assessment and even talked about Mayers.  So why is Mayers still in Atlanta? Because what Mike Kekel wrote is not true. I am not the only one who complained about Mayers; his helpers did also. What was done? Nothing because the first complaints starting coming to the NTCC leadership about Mayers at least as early as 2002 and the last that I knew Mayers was still a pastor in Atlanta and if he was removed today, the NTCC leadership waited 7 years too long. Cantrell complained, Bentley complained, and I complained to Jones, Kinson, and Denis. 

Mr. Kekel, do you know what happened to me and my wife when we complained about an abusive pastor who even you have admitted is abusive? Your leadership blacklisted us and decided not to allow us to even attend conference after we had been going to conferences for years. Your leadership said that I couldn't even take up the offering in church (which doesn't mean jack anyway) and my wife couldn't play the piano which she is quite good at, and Olson questioned whether or not we should have even been allowed to attend fellowship meetings. That's where complaining about an abusive pastor got us Mr. Kekel. About 99% of the time anyone who complained about any pastor in the NTCC got blacklisted and you know it. Rev. Cantrell got in trouble for calling Graham and complaining about Mayers and Cantrell is a minister, so where does that put a "Lowly" church member with valid complaints when you won't even listen to your ministers? Do you know how many ministers and overseers had a problem with Denis? Mike, you had a problem with Denis and what happened to Denis? He got promoted. I rest my case. I was there when your father in law, Mr. RWD said openly in conference that if someone had a problem with one of his pastors they had a problem with him and if they had a problem with him they had a problem with GAWD. Who in the world would want to complain after hearing that statement. Mike you are fake and anyone reading this should be able to see that clearly. With your statements you are not being true to us nor are you being true to yourself because you know what goes on in the NTCC as well as anyone, and if you don't you are wrong because you are in charge. 

Mike ought to be a politician because he makes all kinds of promises that he knows aren't true and doesn't intend to keep. Once again it was the NTCC leadership who put Denis in all those positions of authority. It certainly wasn't me who nominated Denis, it was the general board, and they wouldn't speak against Denis because they are all scared of old RWD. They were all afraid to speak a word against Denis so what kind of leadership is that? Sounds like the communist government to me and I am not exaggerating one bit. Everyone is so scared of old RWD and as a result no one will talk or complain against anyone so I don't even know why you asked that of SFC Johnson.  Olson and RWD are all guilty of Denis having as much latitude as he did within the NTCC. Dispute that!!! Boy the truth hurts doesn't it? Every single solitary word that I just wrote is true. Matthew Reed had a problem with Denis, LD Jones had a problem with Denis, Mike Kekel had a problem with Denis. How do I know? Because they all told me they had a problem with Denis.  So what is wrong with this picture? Just like I said; you are all scared of RWD and as a result filing a complaint against anyone in your organization does no good (with few exceptions) so I don't even know why you suggested such a thing.

Once again I rest my case.

Chief

Stupid Is As Stupid Does

A while back, Mike Kekel wrote an article on his blog called "Ain't Misbehaven". I'm astounded that Mike would even publish and openly display such information. Approximately 2 years ago I posted an article referencing what Mike wrote titled "The Irony Of It All". Directly below is a link which will take you straight to that article.

http://truestoriesoflifeinthentcc.blogspot.com/2010/09/irony-of-it-all.html

Anyway, I wanted to repost what M.C. Kekel wrote because I'm still amazed that he'd be so careless as to throw his own father-in-law RWD, under the bus in such a fashion. Either that, or it's part of yet another New Testament Christian Church master plan to allow in what they've called "compromise" for decades.

M.C. Kekel wrote and I quote...

"I do not make the rules, and have only recently had opportunity to affect them. In the past I have only been in the unfortunate position of having to enforce them. That doesn't mean I agreed with them. If so be they were mistakes, they weren't mine. As for the church organization? I have nothing to do with policies and doctrines of the organization concerning things like TV (which ministers aren't to have if they carry license in NTCC- unless it is solely as a gaming monitor or something, and not connected to TV input) and couldn't change them if I wanted to. If that gets changed, Rev. Olson will have to do it by mandate or through board approval. I have no such power. Even in the Bible School realm I am limited."

"My influence on the bible school rules has only been to lighten them, not increase them. Further, since I wasn't a bible school student during that time, I was not UNDER those rules. The sports rule was not bible based to begin with, and was for bible school students. Not me."

Chief said...

These statements absolutely amaze me!!!!!! They're jaw dropping. I don't know how anyone in the New Testament Christian Church could ignore these statements if they have a conscience or any intelligence or common sense. Do you really trust the NTCC leadership with the task of guiding you to heaven? Really? There are two people who are key leaders in the NTCC; namely R.W. Davis and M.C. Kekel. These statements (written by one NTCC executive board member, namely M.C. Kekel) made a complete mockery of the Founder of the NTCC, namely R.W. Davis. Who do you think came up with all the rules and or endorsed every last one? RWD!!! Basically Mike wrote, (and of course I'm paraphrasing here) that he was the unlucky scapegoat who had the dubious distinction of having to enforce a bunch of bogus rules that he didn't agree with and had nothing to do with in the first place. Boy if that ain't throwing RWD, and the rest of the general board under the bus, I don't know what in the world is?

Listen here, armed with this information, I'd have no reason to believe that God inspired one single rule that RWD ever spewed out of his big fat mouth. "Ask permission to go visit who"? "Ask permission to stop where"? "Ask permission to accept a job"? "Ask permission to date or talk to who"? "Stand against the wall just to talk to a woman"? "You said it's a sin for all women to work"? "Where is that rule found in the Bible, Proverbs 31"? "REALLY, ARE YOU SERIOUS, ARE YOU KIDDING ME"?

Obey them that have rule over you? When I know that they have a history of coming up with a bunch of bogus rules that Kekel doesn't even agree with, and he considers himself to be unfortunate for even having to enforce them? REALLY? Huh!! Never again. I'm a grown man with a family to look out for. You can follow a bunch of stupid rules and con artists if you want to but I'm not the one.

Chief

P.S. I wouldn't follow M.C. Kekel or RWD to find a toilet (say no less as spiritual leaders) if I had diarrhea.

The Grand Scheme. The Catholics, Mormons And The New Testament Christian Church.

The Picture to the left represents RWD or Kekel; whichever you prefer.  I wrote this article this evening on the Shunks Blog and I liked it so much, I thought I'd post it here.  

You see, for R.W. Davis' scheme to work, his congregates must believe that it's a sin to have any concern whatsoever for the way money is spent which is given to the NTCC. Hence, "Just give as unto the Lord, don't worry about where the money goes, and Gawd will surely bless you". That's one of the oldest tricks in the book, which the Catholics and Mormons have been using for centuries. And that my friend is why the Catholic and Mormon Churches have more wealth and assets than any church on earth.

Quote#1 that I dug up: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or better known as the Mormon Church is the richest. Hands down it has the most liquidity and cash on hand to spend at any time. The Catholic Church has a lot of assets but they don't have the residual income of the Mormon's tithing and they are losing the money war by the seconds.

Quote#2 that I dug up: The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence. She is a greater possessor of material riches than any other single institution, corporation, bank, giant trust, government or state of the whole globe. The pope is the visible ruler of this immense amassment of wealth.

And The Chief said, "IMAGINE THAT". You NTCCers are getting played by the same tricks. And that's why not one other person in the NTCC has a house that's as grand as RWD's. He is like the Pope and he sees himself as such and he has control of all the money to spend how he wishes. The Mormons may have more liquid cash but the Catholics have more stuff. RWD ain't no dummy but with few exceptions, his congregates are, and that's why Denis and Barnes left.  They weren't dummies.  They both left for the same reason.  They weren't going to let Davis control "THEIR" money for the rest of their lives and whether or not they are crooks, (which I think they both are) they are no dummies. Now both Denis and Barnes are both rich based on the sources that I have. And that's why Davis started his OWN organization/corporation so that he could be rich also. If you don't think so, you are a blind, stupid, ignorant dummy.

If you stay in the NTCC continuing to give them your money, you are a dummy and it's just that simple. The Bible says and I quote: "he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want".

End of story.

Roll Tide!!!!!

First posted 1/8/2010 when the Crimson Tide won the 2009 season BCS National Championship.   This ain't my first rodeo with Alabama.  

The Alabama Crimson Tide has won the College Football BCS National Championship. I happen to live about 1/4 of a mile from the Georgia, Alabama border. I have been an Alabama fan following their entire season. I followed their entire season last year as well, but they didn't have quite the degree of success that they had this season. I'm quite pleased with the outcome.  Roll Tide!!!

I never followed any sporting events while I was with the NTCC. Every NTCC pastor that I had categorically rejected practices such as sports fanaticism i.e. being a sports fan. The word "fan" was derived from the word fanaticism or fanatic. I am in fact a fan of the Crimson Tide however such interests were without doubt forbidden while I was with the NTCC; well almost.

This subject has been brought up here many times before and repetition is a good teacher. While the rest us were listening to preaching directed against sports, Mike Kekel was enrolling his son in basketball and football. We would have never known this if it wasn't for the wonderful world wide web. How many of us denied our children participation in sports and denied ourselves from having an interest in sports because of the NTCC's stance concerning the subject? I am quite positive the answer is many. Well if all those NTCC preachers were right, and I am going to hell because I'm a sports fan / fanatic, I will have some company there; namely Mike Kekel, and his entire family. Mike better hope his fellow ministers and his father-in-law were wrong. That's right his father-in-law because it's obvious that someone taught all those ministers to bash sports and RWD is as usual the only logical answer.

Chief

Norman Schwarzkopf, A Truly Great American

Today a truly great American has passed away.  General Norman Schwarzkopf was a Vietnam and Gulf War Veteran.  He was awarded the Purple Heart (One Oak Leaf Cluster), Silver Star (Two Oak Leaf Clusters), and Bronze Star (With V device for Valor and Two Oak Leaf Clusters) just to mention a few.  He was a great Soldier and once again a truly great American and it was an honor to serve under his command during the Gulf War.  General Schwarzkoph knew the meaning of sacrifice having put his life in eminent grave danger for the sake of his troops.   We lost an outstanding Soldier and a great American today and I felt compelled to pay my respects here on this blog.  May he rest in peace.

Below is a link to his Bio for all who might be interested in reading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Schwarzkopf,_Jr.

A Little Tidbit Of Information About Mike Kekel's Blog

 Originally posted 3/15/2010

Thread #10    Mike Kekel has propagated the notion that his blog was created for the purpose of uplifting and edifying the reader and his blog was not created for the purpose of attacking exntcc people in any way because good old holy Mike and his loyal followers would never do anything like that.  Mike and his followers suggest that they have no bitterness towards us exntccers  but they regularly claim that we are the bitter, evil haters.

In all actuality, Mike Kekel knows that his so called "edifying, good natured, uplifting blog" as anything but edifying or uplifting. In fact; to take it a step further, Mister holier than thou Mike Kekel, the man who claims to have all good intentions does not have holy intentions at all where his blog is concerned and I am going to prove it. 

Mike Kekel created his blog as a direct equalizer / counter to Brian Pelfrey's blog which is titled "ntccXposed". For that matter, Mike Kekel created his blog as an equalizer to every exNTCC blog to include this one. The only difference between Brian and Mike, is Brian did not try to hide his true intentions when he created his website but Mike did. Brian Pelfrey’s clearly stated intention when he created his website, was to expose the NTCC's crooked practices and that fact is evidenced by not only what he named his website, but also by what he named his Uniform Resource Locator (URL). Just follow me a little longer because I am getting to my point.

The true name Brian Pelfrey gave his Uniform Resource Locator (URL) is displayed when you go to ntccXposed. You have to dig just a little bit to find out what Uniform Resource Locator (URL) name Mike gave to one of the devices attached to his very own blog.

This is the title that Mr. Pelfrey gave his URL: http://www.ntccxposed.com/

This is the title that Mr. Kekel gave his URL which he didn't want people to see: http://exntccrsxposed.blogspot.com/

I found this URL connected the hit counter that Mike linked to his blog and no one else could have created it other than Mike. How do I know? Because you must have a password to create or edit the hit counter, and I know because I have it on my blog also.  What Mike named the URL that I copied and pasted above is proof of Mike's true intent i.e. "exntccrsxposed".  

 Mike is no more than a common con artist. If Mike's intentions were so pure, someone please explain why Mike would name a URL "exntccrsxposed"? 

To summarize; it's quiet obvious that Mike's intentions were not pure at all when he created his blog. He created his blog for the express purpose of exposing people who have left the NTCC by opposing the statements made by people who have left the NTCC. For the record and so no one thinks that I am a hypocrite, I definitely created my blog to highlight the NTCC's double standards, inconsiderate practices, lack of common decency, hypocrisy, and to expose specific people in the NTCC. 

Recently Mike wrote this statement on his blog: "We have some in NTCC who regularly keep company with railers and revilers on their blogs, facebooks, forums and websites, places where evil and railing appears continually." Well Mike just judged himself because he is a railer and reviler as is evidenced by his very own blog. Anyone who has an open mind will see right through Mike Kekel and they will realize that his blog is no different than this one. He has recently re-initiated all this thread posting for no other reason than to perform damage control against the blog that was also recently started by Deborah Shunk. In fact, it was the very day after Deb Shunk's blog became public that old Mikey posted a thread entitled "Don't Believe Everything You Read". Imagine that? What a coincidence. And then, (also coincidentally) he created all these new threads on his blog shortly thereafter. WOW, what a coincidence!!! If you believe that was simply circumstantial, I circumstantially have some beach front property to sell you in my back yard. Because Mike has turned so many NTCCers into suckers, (which I used to be also, where the NTCC was concerned) I should be receiving offers on the beach front property that I have for sale by COB tomorrow. Send CASH only to Chief and I'll make sure you get the deed to the land, water included.

 

Chief

To the left is a picture of a woman with a JOB!!!  Something that apparently Tanya Kekel knows all about.

On the previous thread Double Ugh, (D.U.) wrote...

A recent conversation got me thinking about how much better my husband and I are doing since leaving the NTCC. I have a good paying job...which I never would have had if we stayed.

Before we left, we spent much time in the Word reading and talking about whether a woman can work on a job or not. We came to the conclusion that it is not against the Bible for a woman to work on a job.

When I talked to Tanya Kekel about the fact that my husband and I decided to leave the organization, she of course wanted to know why, and I gave her some explanation.  I told her that I had decided to work. 

I was amazed at what came out of her mouth next! She said it's okay if I have a job and that there are many women in the NTCC that work.

I told her that my understanding was that it is looked down upon and preached against.

She said it is not preached against! Then she asked me when was the last time I heard Kekel preach against it.

I told her I can't remember, but I know it has been. She almost made me feel stupid...but we all know better. I told her that I don't want to get preached at for having a job.

Now, I know I did not just imagine that the NTCC preaches and teaches against women working! Kekel even wrote in his blog that it is against the Bible!!! So, did she flat out lie to me?!?

Chief said....

Imagine that and the answer is YES; she flat out lied to you.  She knows better.  Nothing about the NTCC leadership surprises me anymore. Flip flopping, double standard hypocrites.  That's all you have with the NTCC leadership and Tanya is no exception.  Look at Tanya's response:  "Then she asked me when was the last time I heard Kekel preach against it." 

So they've flip flopped on that one now also!!!  I guess Kekel doesn't preach on that anymore, do you think?  Who knows with the NTCC leadership.   Who knows what they believe and what they don't.  I know one thing they believe along with so many other crooked churches:  "All Christians pay tithe and give in the offering".  "You can't out give Gawd".   They won't ever flip flop on that part.  

Write Whatever You Want. The Last One Is At About 200 Posts

Lots of good stuff came out in the last thread.  The NTCC is in conference I guess.  It's that time of the year for some more good old fashioned brainwashing.   I'm glad I'm not there.  I wasted enough vacation time and money on that nonsense just to listen to old RDouble Cross Davis tell everyone where they could find the door if they didn't like it in his church.   I had to listen to him tell everyone how great Kekel was while bragging on Barnes and Denis.   

We know what happened to those two and if Barnes and Denis are any indication of the quality of RWDs judgment, you know what you are getting with Kekel.  Barnes basically ran off with his whole church (minus one or two) and Denis tried to run off with the entire NTCC and partly succeeded.   Kekel doesn't have to run off because first, he is not black, and second, the NTCC/RWD is giving him more than enough money.  Denis and Barnes ran off because they didn't feel like they were getting their fair share and Denis said the NTCC was full of racism and frankly he was right.  

They used to throw the "N" word around like it was candy and tell enough racist jokes to make me sick.  Well, there you have it.  Write whatever you'd like.  The NTCC is still a control freak organization full of narcissists, nepotism, and men pleasers.   Good night.  

The Plot Thickens

On the previous thread, Bro Edward Bellamy wrote...   

For those of you who were wondering about Rev. and Sister Brill, (yes, this is Rev. Olson's daughter and son-in-law.) They left NTCC a month before I did; approximately March 2011. This is the story behind his leaving.

When Rev. Brill was in the Army, he was diagnosed with cancer. They did surgery and he was medically discharged, but he has been very sick throughout the years. They have now found out that the procedure which was used to remove his cancer will eventually take his life. It makes even getting a common cold life threatening. He had become very sick while Pastoring in Amarillo, Texas. The doctors told him that he needed to stop most activities if he wanted to live. This was around conference time and the doctor also told him that he could get worse if he traveled. He told Pastor Davis that he was not coming to conference, because he was sick. They called him and chewed him out, saying, because Sister. Brill was Rev. Olson's daughter, it would be a bad testimony if they missed conference. So Rev. Brill went back to the doctor and the doctor strongly advised him not to go. So Rev. Brill sent Sister Brill to conference and he stayed home. During conference they called him and chewed him out. So he got on a plane and came to conference.. And just like the doctor predicted he became very sick. He then realized, (like all of us) that they DO NOT care about anyone but themselves, their pride, and their ego. They put his life in danger for show.

Much, much, much more to follow...

Later on the same thread Chief wrote...

You've posted some serious information with this whole Bro Brill situation. I mean just think about it for a moment, (which is what I do, and unfortunately for them, too many people don't).

If Olson's own son in law and daughter got the old "NTCC shaft", why should anyone else think they are exempt? The only ones who are totally exempt are the Kekels and it's apparent that the Kinsons get a break also. Maybe Johnson is more of a man than Olson (which is certain) and maybe he simply won't allow it, but either way, for certain Kinson gets a break also in the NTCC. When I say a break, I mean that he's clearly not been held to the same standard as the average NTCC minion, which also clearly Bro Brill fell into the category of.

I've been writing the words "double standard" for years now and they still ring true with the NTCC leadership. If the NTCC leadership road roughshod on Mr. Brill, then dog gone it, you better get your butt out of bed and get your sick self to conference. If you don't, you're going to get blasted and the NTCC leadership ain't taking no excuses and Bro Brill found that out the hard way.

If you read this message and you are part of the NTCC, you are out of your ever loving mind if you still want to remain part of that crooked, sick, twisted, sadistic, conniving, sorry, sad excuse of a "Christian Organization". R.W. Davis, Olson, and Kekel don't know the first thing about common decency or how to love their neighbors the same way they love their sorry selves and Bro Brill is stone cold proof!!!!  

If you want to read more of what Bro Bellamy wrote, you can find it all on the previous thread.  It's fairly extensive.  Incidentally, Kekel is an idiot.  

Take Care Of Your Family And Stop Being Stupid!!!!

You know Don and Ange, people think we are just mean spirited but they are missing the whole point. We are talking REAL LIFE, not some fairy tail. You believe in Christ and you don't live in some fairy tail land where you throw "RESPONSIBILITY" completely out the window and thats what too many NTCC people just don't get and unfortunately Robert Briggs (as nice of a guy as he was) didn't get it either. Is that mean spirited? Is telling the truth while trying to help folks so they don't make the same terrible mistakes being "mean spirited".   Sometimes the truth sucks and it seems cruel.

Take care of your LOVING family people. Paul talked about not being married so he could "completely focus" on the Gospel because listen to this; Paul knew if he was married and he had kids that he couldn't totally focus on the Gospel because he knew it was his Christian responsibility and his GOD GIVEN DUTY to place a considerable amount of focus on his family.

So Paul stayed single by choice but when you don't stay single by choice and you elect to have a family and Kids for crying out loud, you can't simply neglect them for the sake of the Gospel and certainly not for the sake of the stinking, greedy, control freak NTCC our you shouldn't have had a family in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Paul understood that, but NTCC people don't because they've been brainwashed by RWD and Kekel the conniving crooks.  

   And that is the problem with the NTCC and I hate it. The conniving NTCC leadership wants all your time and MONEY and they don't care if your family is neglected as long as you give them your time and MONEY for their greedy desires. You say, "how can you say that about RWD and Kekel".  Because if RWD and Kekel were real caring leaders, they would NOT allow a married man to pastor in the NTCC period, unless he showed proof that he has a life insurance policy for his family in the event that he dies.  You are REQUIRED to have life insurance if you are in the military, no ifs, ands, or buts because unlike the NTCC leadership, the  military doesn't just say that they care, they show that they care certainly in that regard.  The NTCC leadership doesn't show any genuine concern for all that but they do show a genuine concern for a bunch of mansions, RVs, fat cars, expensive and excessive schools for the Kekels are all at your expense????

Is that really what Christianity is all about?????? Is that what tithing was all about as it was mandated in the """OLD TESTAMENT""". HELL NO!!!!! It was never intended for those purposes even then and there is no mention of tithing being a mandate in the New Testament NOW. Don't you think that Paul, Peter, James or John would have made some mention of it being a mandate if it were a heaven or hell issue? Some NTCCer answer will ya?????

 You take care of your BIOLOGICAL family first because that is by far a greater responsibility (with no comparison) than lining the pockets of people like RWD, and Kekel. And all that was done so that someone like Grant can attend a Catholic College because make no mistake, Grant almost certainly wouldn't be there had he not attended Charles Wright Academy at the cost of approximately $20,000 per year (tithe payers cost) for four stinking years while he played football and basketball. He may have attended a local community college but he wouldn't be at a catholic college in St. Louis.  The Kekels and RWD pulled a fast one on you and it should be plain as the nose on your face.  The proof is the young man being at a CATHOLIC COLLEGE of all places.  He could have gone to any college.   He didn't have to go to the college of the "GREAT WHORE" as RWD taught for years.  They called the Catholic Church the "GREAT WHORE" or have you forgot?????  Have you forgot???? Would you send your kid off to be taught by the dog gone "GREAT WHORE" if that is what you believed????  I haven't lost my memory and I ain't no dummy and my memory is still quite active.

 You married NTCC people have it all wrong. Family first and stinking NTCC second because your biological family is your responsibility. If it were me the NTCC wouldn't even be second. They wouldn't be anywhere in my life because the crooked organization wouldn't even exist if I had my way. Now get some of that and I'm being real and that ain't being mean spirited.

He may have been a "good dude" but Robert Briggs was a "misguided good dude" when he put the stinking NTCC before his family for years. As a result he got caught in a trap that wouldn't let go because when he found out that his life was short, no insurance company would give him life insurance because he was already too sick and that is the truth because he told me and I felt bad for him and I don't want to see anyone else wind up in the same or similar situation.

Forget the stinking NTCC and make sure you take care of your family because that is what Paul would have done which is precisely why he chose not to have a family. So either be a monk or take care of your family and either way, you can still have faith in Christ. I'M OUT.

CHIEF

Today I Asked The Lord A Question

I said, "Lord, why do so many people in the NTCC live at or below the poverty level while at the same time the Kekels live lives of luxury".  "Lord they drive expensive automobiles, send their son off to receive the finest education,  they live in mansions Lord while yet at the same time their brethren are often poor and destitute"?   Why is that Lord?  

Well you'll never believe what happened next...  The Lord answered.

He said, "BROTHER JEFF, YOU ENTERTAIN EVIL THOUGHTS CONCERNING MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS". "THEY HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL IN ALL AND AS A RESULT, I HAVE BLESSED THEM BEYOND MEASURE, WHEREAS THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN HAVE BEEN UNFAITHFUL AND AS A RESULT, I CAN NOT BLESS THEM."   "I THE LORD HAVE MADE PROVISIONS FOR THEIR SON GRANT TO ATTEND A JESUIT (CATHOLIC) COLLEGE BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN FAITHFUL IN ALL AND I HAVE BLESSED HIM."  "YOU HAVE WRONGFULLY SUPPOSED THAT THE GREAT MONETARY BLESSINGS WHICH HAVE BEEN SO ABUNDANTLY BESTOWED UPON THE KEKELS ARE THE DIRECT RESULT OF THEM BEING THE DAUGHTER, SON IN LAW, AND GRANDSON OF R.W. DAVIS, AND NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH BROTHER JEFF".   "IT IS BECAUSE THE KEKELS HAVE BEEN WISER THAN THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND SHREWD CONCERNING THEIR INVESTMENTS AND I HAVE MULTIPLIED THEIR SUBSTANCE AND I THE LORD HAVE GIVEN THEM GREAT INCREASE"!!!  

"ONLY CROOKS AND CON ARTISTS RECEIVE GREAT MONETARY INCREASE THROUGH DECEITFULNESS AND CROOKERY BUT  WITH MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS, IT IS NOT SO."  "THEY HAVE BEEN HONEST AND TRUSTWORTHY FAR ABOVE THAT OF THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND AS A RESULT, I'VE TAKEN AT LEAST 10% FROM THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND TURNED IT INTO INCREASE FOR MY FAITHFUL SERVANTS THE KEKELS".  "AND BLESSED THEY SHALL BE FAR ABOVE THAT OF ALL THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND THESE ABUNDANT BLESSINGs HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING HEIRS TO THE GREAT PROPHET R.W. DAVIS AS YOU'VE SUPPOSED".  "HENCE YOU SHOULD PUBLISH THIS FOR ALL TO SEE AS I'VE SEEN FIT TO ELEVATE MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS FAR ABOUT THAT OF THEIR BRETHREN".

 "THEREFOR YOU SHALL LOUDLY PROCLAIM THAT EACH AND EVERYONE WHO NAMETH THE NAME OF THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES OF AMERICA INCORPORATED AS THEIR FELLOWSHIP SHALL IN NO WISE EVER STOP GIVING AT LEAST 10% OF ALL THEIR INCOME SO THAT I CAN USE THAT MONEY TO BLESS MY FAITHFUL SERVANTS THE KEKELS".  "MY FAITHFUL SERVANTS THE KEKELS SHALT HAVE LANDS, AND NICE AUTOMOBILES, AND GREAT AND LOFTY HOUSES,  AND RICHES BEYOND MEASURE, AND YE SHALT GIVE JOYFULLY UNTO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCH AS UNTO ME AND THE KEKELS SHALT BE BLESSED AND IT SHALL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING KIN TO THE GREAT R.W. DAVIS".

"I HAVE BLESSED YOU BROTHER JEFF AND I'VE BLESSED BROTHER VICTOR AND I'VE BLESSED BROTHER DON AND SISTER ANGE AND I'VE BLESSED GREGORY THE WISE ONE, WHEREAS I SHOULD HAVE CURSED YOU ALL BUT I DIDN'T BECAUSE YOU ALL IGNORANTLY SLANDERED THE NAMES OF MY WONDERFUL SERVANTS  THE KEKELS".  "NO ONE IN THE NTCC WILL EVER BE BLESSED AS MUCH AS THE KEKELS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL IN ALL AND MANY OF THEIR FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS SHALT BE CURSED BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SLOTHFUL.  MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS HAVE OPENLY SPOKEN OF THEIR SLOTHFULNESS AND HAVE RIGHTFULLY SUPPOSED". 

"YOU BROTHER JEFF HAVE CONTINUED TO BE BLESSED BECAUSE YOU'VE NOT BEEN SLOTHFUL AND I HAVE BLESSED YOU BEYOND MEASURE".  "YOU AND ONLY YOU, BROTHER JEFF CAN BE BLESSED BEYOND MEASURE EVEN THOUGH THOU DON'T GIVEST 10% OF ALL THINE INCREASE TO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES OF AMERICA INCORPORATED BECAUSE YOU'VE FAILED TO DO SO NOT WILLFULLY BUT IN IGNORANCE".  

Does this sound overly bold, careless, and disrespectful that I should write such a statement?  No where near as bold and careless as Mike Kekel openly proclaiming that his fellow brethren are broke and without money because they didn't incorporate his father in law's teachings into their daily money management habits.  He also boldly proclaimed that he has money because he did follow and practice the teachings of his father in law.   Well I say that's poppy cock.  Kekel is rich for one reason and one reason only.  Because he married Tanya and they've kept him at Graham where he has leeched off the entire organization for decades.  You are an idiot if you give your money to the NTCC.  You are a straight dummy if you believe that God can bless the Kekels but God can't bless you.   Well God sure is blessing me and I'm not even in the stinkin NTCC and I wouldn't give them one more dime of my money.

Complete Lack Of Wisdom, (Part 2). This One Never Gets Old.

A while back, Mike Kekel wrote an article on his blog called "Ain't Misbehaven". I'm astounded that Mike would even publish and openly display such information.  Approximately one year ago I posted an article referencing what Mike wrote titled "The Irony Of It All".  Directly below is a link which will take you straight to that article. 

http://truestoriesoflifeinthentcc.blogspot.com/2010/09/irony-of-it-all.html

Anyway, I wanted to repost what M.C. Kekel wrote because I'm still amazed  that he'd be so careless as to throw his father-in-law, RWD under the bus in such a fashion.  Either that, or it's part of yet another New Testament Christian Church master plan to allow in what they've called "compromise" for decades. 

M.C. Kekel wrote and I quote...

"I do not make the rules, and have only recently had opportunity to affect them. In the past I have only been in the unfortunate position of having to enforce them. That doesn't mean I agreed with them. If so be they were mistakes, they weren't mine. As for the church organization? I have nothing to do with policies and doctrines of the organization concerning things like TV (which ministers aren't to have if they carry license in NTCC- unless it is solely as a gaming monitor or something, and not connected to TV input) and couldn't change them if I wanted to. If that gets changed, Rev. Olson will have to do it by mandate or through board approval. I have no such power. Even in the Bible School realm I am limited."

"My influence on the bible school rules has only been to lighten them, not increase them. Further, since I wasn't a bible school student during that time, I was not UNDER those rules. The sports rule was not bible based to begin with, and was for bible school students. Not me."

Chief said... 

These statements absolutely amaze me!!!!!! They're jaw dropping.  I don't know how anyone in the New Testament Christian Church could ignore these statements if they have a conscience or any intelligence or common sense.  Do you really trust the NTCC leadership with the task of guiding you to heaven?  Really?  There are two people who are key leaders in the NTCC;  namely R.W. Davis and M.C. Kekel.   These statements (written by one NTCC executive board member, namely M.C. Kekel) made a complete mockery of the Founder of the NTCC, namely R.W. Davis.  Who do you think came up with all the rules and or endorsed every last one?  RWD!!!   Basically Mike wrote, (and of course I'm paraphrasing here) that he was the unlucky scapegoat who had the dubious distinction of having to enforce a bunch of bogus rules that he didn't agree with and had nothing to do with in the first place.   Boy if that ain't throwing RWD, and the rest of the general board under the bus, I don't know what in the world is?  

Listen here, armed with this information, I'd have no reason to believe that God inspired one single rule that RWD ever spewed out of his big fat mouth.   "Ask permission to go visit who"?  "Ask permission to stop where"?  "Ask permission to accept a job"?  "Ask permission to date or talk to who"?  "Stand against the wall just to talk to a woman"?  "You said it's a sin for all women to work"?  "Where is that rule found in the Bible, Proverbs 31"? "REALLY, ARE YOU SERIOUS, ARE YOU KIDDING ME"?  

Obey them that have rule over you?  When I know that they have a history of coming up with a bunch of bogus rules that Kekel doesn't even agree with, and he considers himself to be  unfortunate for even having to enforce them?  REALLY?  Huh!!  Never again.   I'm a grown man with a family to look out for.   You can follow a bunch of stupid rules and con artists if you want to but I'm not the one.

Chief  

P.S.  I wouldn't follow M.C. Kekel or RWD to find a toilet (say no less as spiritual leaders) if I had diarrhea.  

A Request From Double Ugh

Double Ugh asked...

I do want to bring up a possibility.  If you wouldn't mind starting one more topic that is just open for people to vent or maybe post how good they are doing since they left.  I know we've been much  happier.

What Do You Suppose Would Be Proudly Proclaimed Across Many NTCC Pulpits Had This Happened To Me?

Apparently Pastor and Sis Cyrius were recently in a serious automobile accent which ripped the roof off their BMW700 series automobile.  I don't know the extent of their injuries but it's my understanding that both of their faces were messed up to one degree or another.   That is an unfortunate occurrence and I wish them no ill-will and I hope they have a speedy and complete recovery.   These things can happen to anyone and it's just circumstance.   The Bible proves this.

Ecclesiastes 7:14  In the day of prosperity be joyful, but in the day of adversity consider: God also hath set the one over against the other, to the end that man should find nothing after him.  15 All things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just man that perisheth in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongeth his life in his wickedness.

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

So what is my point?  If I were to get into a car accident and the roof got ripped off because I hit a horse who was in the road, and I was driving 80mph, what do you suppose you'd hear come across some NTCC pulpits?  "Did you here what happened to J. Collins?  God judged him because he mocked the man of God on his blog!!!  That's right; God used a horse to judge Collins.  God had that horse stand right in the middle of the road and that horse was more obedient than Collins, and now because of his sin and disrespect toward the man of God, Collins is laid up in a hospital with his face all messed up and plenty of time to think about his mockery toward the man of God.  But even God is merciful because Collins could be dead but God is giving him such a time as this to repent of his disrespect but God might not be so merciful next time.  You see this is what happens when you mock R.W. Davis who is the man of GAWD!"

Sharp contrast to what you might of read on Mike Kekels blog about the Cyrius accident, hey?  Well my point is that this kind of occurrence can happen to anyone and you NTCCers need to stop being so superstitious.  I almost hit a dear just the other day but I managed to avoid it, barely.  The Cyrius couple wasn't so fortunate but I don't see it as Gods judgment; I simply see it as circumstance that can happen to anyone, plain and simple.  The purpose of this article isn't to capitalize on the Cyrius calamity (as I wish them no harm) but rather to highlight the NTCC leadership's hypocrisy which is so glaringly prevalent.   I'd bet my last dollar that if something like that had happened to me, it would get blasted across the pulpit in conference as "judgment" so that people would think I'd got slammed by God and be scared to come anywhere near this blog.   I know that for certain because I've heard RWD and his pastors highlight the calamity of folks who've left the NTCC say no less folks who've left and opposed the NTCC leadership.

Well for the record, life has been a million times better in every regard, since I left the NTCC then it ever was while I was with the NTCC and much of that is not circumstance.  How do I know?  Because some crook, unqualified New Testament Christian Church counselor isn't making decisions that affect me anymore, I make decisions that impact me and my family and if the good Lord has helped me, (which based on known evidence appears possible if not probable) I appreciate it.   If the Lord hasn't directed and guided my success, then I'm a very fortunate dude, because believe me, things have certainly been going my way for quite some time. No matter how you look at it, God has been very good to me up to this point because tomorrow that could end.  I take the good with the bad because I can't imagine that my extra ordinarily great success can last for too long.   If I wrote my story on this blog, people would certainly wonder with some degree of amazement about how I could continually and inexplicably remain so fortunate, time after time after time these last few years since I left the NTCC.    Don knows, because I tell him of all the things that happen to me and for  a few years now even to this very day, they just don't seem to stop.  I just don't like sticking too much of my business here on this blog.

Chief   

Keep It In Your Church, RWD Would. In Fact, He Does!

Let's consider tithe for a moment here.   I'm not writing this article to defend or refute the doctrine of compulsory tithing.   Some folks believe that tithing is a New Testament biblical mandate while others maintain that there is no New Testament scriptural evidence to validate such assertions. Either way, people will believe what they believe and that is not going to stop.  What we do know is that the New Testament Christian Church leadership teaches that if you don't pay tithe, you are certainly going to hell when you die.  Where this article is concerned, I'm fine with that assertion.

 So lets look at who the New Testament Christian Church leadership teaches that you should pay tithe to?  The pastor of your church, am I right?  In the Old Testament, the children of Israel payed tithe to the Levites because they weren't otherwise given an inheritance by the Lord.  That seems to be the model that the NTCC has adopted.   Having said that I have a few questions.  Who does RWD and Kekel pay tithe to?  I doubt Kekel writes out a tithe check and gives it to RWD so lets assume Kekel and RWD make tithe checks out to New Testament Christian Church INC, a Missouri Corporation, and lets assume that the checks are deposited into a corporate account in Graham or St. Louis.  OK, I'm find with that.  Well who controls the money in that account? That's easy, RWD.  And what do you suppose that money is spent on?  Whatever RWD wants to spend it on.  The extremely nice RVs he enjoys, more rental properties? Maybe the property that he had previously placed in the NTCCs name and gifted to the Kekels? I don't know and neither do you (unless you are RWD or Kekel) but it gets spent on something, and for certain that something is a direct benefit to RWD and Kekel?  New song books or nice pews for the chapel in "GRAHAM".  Upgrades to all the NTCC property in "GRAHAM".  We don't know because contrary to the way money is meticulously monitored in the NTCC satellite churches, there is no financial transparency or system of checks and balances in Graham.     Do you suppose tithe money sent to Graham from Atlanta or Ft. Hood was used for the church in Atlanta or the church Fort Hood for example?  Of course not so that brings about my next question.  

If RWD and Kekel basically pay tithe to themselves i.e. to accounts which they have control of, why don't other NTCC pastors do the same?   Davis is not a Levite or a son of Aaron so why pay him tithe when you are the pastor of your own church?  Because he is the quote, "senior apostle"?  Where in the Bible does it say to pay tithe to the "senior apostle"? Certainly not in 2 Corinthians because Paul, (who was the senior Apostle) physically present with the church in Corinth for 1 1/2 years, (Acts 18:11) didn't accept a dime from that church and more importantly he refused to, (2 Cor 11:9).  So if the church in Corinth was not required to pay Paul tithe and Paul was right there with the Corinthians ministering for 1 1/2 years, why do you NTCC pastors send your tithe to Graham Washington to be controlled by RWD who doesn't minister to you at all?  Come on let's be real, you might even talk to the guy maybe once every 6 months if that?  

So here is my point and please NTCC Pastors, be open minded.  Why do you send tithe to Graham when Kekel/RWD and the NTCC INC have their own "church" accounts which are supposedly funded by their tithe, their church members tithe and the tithe from ministers who live there?  RWD wouldn't fund someone else's church in a million years so why do you?  Your tithe should stay in your own church account that you and your church have control of.  That way you wouldn't have to call Graham to ask permission to buy this or buy that and you wouldn't have to ask permission to spend more than $50.  RWD would never do that so why do you?   I know the  answer the NTCC leadership gives because I've been told this by NTCC leaders.   You NTCC pastors don't have control of the money that you bring into your church because the NTCC leadership doesn't trust you!  Ok that's fine but conversely, why should you trust them to do right by the money that you send to Graham when you could just keep it right in your church?  Trust is a two way street Brother!!! You can't say that keeping your tithe money in your church is wrong, from a doctrinal standpoint because that is exactly what RWD and Kekel does.  They wouldn't control my escrow account either, not for one second, but that is a "slightly" different subject. Once you become a pastor, your tithe should stay in your church, period.  If you want to make sure that your tithe is given as unto the Lord, then deposit it into an account that will only be used to purchase things for YOUR church or to be used as charity for the poor, fatherless or widow just like the Apostles did in 1 Cor 16 and Romans 15:26.

If I were an NTCC pastor, there is no way on God's green earth that I'm taking any of the money that my church members gave in good faith and send it to Graham Washington so the Kekel's can use it to get another mansion when the first one they had wasn't good enough.  You NTCC pastors are getting duped. 


Chief