Today I Asked The Lord A Question

I said, "Lord, why do so many people in the NTCC live at or below the poverty level while at the same time the Kekels live lives of luxury".  "Lord they drive expensive automobiles, send their son off to receive the finest education,  they live in mansions Lord while yet at the same time their brethren are often poor and destitute"?   Why is that Lord?  

Well you'll never believe what happened next...  The Lord answered.

He said, "BROTHER JEFF, YOU ENTERTAIN EVIL THOUGHTS CONCERNING MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS". "THEY HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL IN ALL AND AS A RESULT, I HAVE BLESSED THEM BEYOND MEASURE, WHEREAS THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN HAVE BEEN UNFAITHFUL AND AS A RESULT, I CAN NOT BLESS THEM."   "I THE LORD HAVE MADE PROVISIONS FOR THEIR SON GRANT TO ATTEND A JESUIT (CATHOLIC) COLLEGE BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN FAITHFUL IN ALL AND I HAVE BLESSED HIM."  "YOU HAVE WRONGFULLY SUPPOSED THAT THE GREAT MONETARY BLESSINGS WHICH HAVE BEEN SO ABUNDANTLY BESTOWED UPON THE KEKELS ARE THE DIRECT RESULT OF THEM BEING THE DAUGHTER, SON IN LAW, AND GRANDSON OF R.W. DAVIS, AND NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH BROTHER JEFF".   "IT IS BECAUSE THE KEKELS HAVE BEEN WISER THAN THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND SHREWD CONCERNING THEIR INVESTMENTS AND I HAVE MULTIPLIED THEIR SUBSTANCE AND I THE LORD HAVE GIVEN THEM GREAT INCREASE"!!!  

"ONLY CROOKS AND CON ARTISTS RECEIVE GREAT MONETARY INCREASE THROUGH DECEITFULNESS AND CROOKERY BUT  WITH MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS, IT IS NOT SO."  "THEY HAVE BEEN HONEST AND TRUSTWORTHY FAR ABOVE THAT OF THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND AS A RESULT, I'VE TAKEN AT LEAST 10% FROM THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND TURNED IT INTO INCREASE FOR MY FAITHFUL SERVANTS THE KEKELS".  "AND BLESSED THEY SHALL BE FAR ABOVE THAT OF ALL THEIR FELLOW BRETHREN AND THESE ABUNDANT BLESSINGs HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING HEIRS TO THE GREAT PROPHET R.W. DAVIS AS YOU'VE SUPPOSED".  "HENCE YOU SHOULD PUBLISH THIS FOR ALL TO SEE AS I'VE SEEN FIT TO ELEVATE MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS FAR ABOUT THAT OF THEIR BRETHREN".

 "THEREFOR YOU SHALL LOUDLY PROCLAIM THAT EACH AND EVERYONE WHO NAMETH THE NAME OF THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES OF AMERICA INCORPORATED AS THEIR FELLOWSHIP SHALL IN NO WISE EVER STOP GIVING AT LEAST 10% OF ALL THEIR INCOME SO THAT I CAN USE THAT MONEY TO BLESS MY FAITHFUL SERVANTS THE KEKELS".  "MY FAITHFUL SERVANTS THE KEKELS SHALT HAVE LANDS, AND NICE AUTOMOBILES, AND GREAT AND LOFTY HOUSES,  AND RICHES BEYOND MEASURE, AND YE SHALT GIVE JOYFULLY UNTO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCH AS UNTO ME AND THE KEKELS SHALT BE BLESSED AND IT SHALL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING KIN TO THE GREAT R.W. DAVIS".

"I HAVE BLESSED YOU BROTHER JEFF AND I'VE BLESSED BROTHER VICTOR AND I'VE BLESSED BROTHER DON AND SISTER ANGE AND I'VE BLESSED GREGORY THE WISE ONE, WHEREAS I SHOULD HAVE CURSED YOU ALL BUT I DIDN'T BECAUSE YOU ALL IGNORANTLY SLANDERED THE NAMES OF MY WONDERFUL SERVANTS  THE KEKELS".  "NO ONE IN THE NTCC WILL EVER BE BLESSED AS MUCH AS THE KEKELS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL IN ALL AND MANY OF THEIR FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS SHALT BE CURSED BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SLOTHFUL.  MY SERVANTS THE KEKELS HAVE OPENLY SPOKEN OF THEIR SLOTHFULNESS AND HAVE RIGHTFULLY SUPPOSED". 

"YOU BROTHER JEFF HAVE CONTINUED TO BE BLESSED BECAUSE YOU'VE NOT BEEN SLOTHFUL AND I HAVE BLESSED YOU BEYOND MEASURE".  "YOU AND ONLY YOU, BROTHER JEFF CAN BE BLESSED BEYOND MEASURE EVEN THOUGH THOU DON'T GIVEST 10% OF ALL THINE INCREASE TO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES OF AMERICA INCORPORATED BECAUSE YOU'VE FAILED TO DO SO NOT WILLFULLY BUT IN IGNORANCE".  

Does this sound overly bold, careless, and disrespectful that I should write such a statement?  No where near as bold and careless as Mike Kekel openly proclaiming that his fellow brethren are broke and without money because they didn't incorporate his father in law's teachings into their daily money management habits.  He also boldly proclaimed that he has money because he did follow and practice the teachings of his father in law.   Well I say that's poppy cock.  Kekel is rich for one reason and one reason only.  Because he married Tanya and they've kept him at Graham where he has leeched off the entire organization for decades.  You are an idiot if you give your money to the NTCC.  You are a straight dummy if you believe that God can bless the Kekels but God can't bless you.   Well God sure is blessing me and I'm not even in the stinkin NTCC and I wouldn't give them one more dime of my money.

Complete Lack Of Wisdom, (Part 2). This One Never Gets Old.

A while back, Mike Kekel wrote an article on his blog called "Ain't Misbehaven". I'm astounded that Mike would even publish and openly display such information.  Approximately one year ago I posted an article referencing what Mike wrote titled "The Irony Of It All".  Directly below is a link which will take you straight to that article. 

http://truestoriesoflifeinthentcc.blogspot.com/2010/09/irony-of-it-all.html

Anyway, I wanted to repost what M.C. Kekel wrote because I'm still amazed  that he'd be so careless as to throw his father-in-law, RWD under the bus in such a fashion.  Either that, or it's part of yet another New Testament Christian Church master plan to allow in what they've called "compromise" for decades. 

M.C. Kekel wrote and I quote...

"I do not make the rules, and have only recently had opportunity to affect them. In the past I have only been in the unfortunate position of having to enforce them. That doesn't mean I agreed with them. If so be they were mistakes, they weren't mine. As for the church organization? I have nothing to do with policies and doctrines of the organization concerning things like TV (which ministers aren't to have if they carry license in NTCC- unless it is solely as a gaming monitor or something, and not connected to TV input) and couldn't change them if I wanted to. If that gets changed, Rev. Olson will have to do it by mandate or through board approval. I have no such power. Even in the Bible School realm I am limited."

"My influence on the bible school rules has only been to lighten them, not increase them. Further, since I wasn't a bible school student during that time, I was not UNDER those rules. The sports rule was not bible based to begin with, and was for bible school students. Not me."

Chief said... 

These statements absolutely amaze me!!!!!! They're jaw dropping.  I don't know how anyone in the New Testament Christian Church could ignore these statements if they have a conscience or any intelligence or common sense.  Do you really trust the NTCC leadership with the task of guiding you to heaven?  Really?  There are two people who are key leaders in the NTCC;  namely R.W. Davis and M.C. Kekel.   These statements (written by one NTCC executive board member, namely M.C. Kekel) made a complete mockery of the Founder of the NTCC, namely R.W. Davis.  Who do you think came up with all the rules and or endorsed every last one?  RWD!!!   Basically Mike wrote, (and of course I'm paraphrasing here) that he was the unlucky scapegoat who had the dubious distinction of having to enforce a bunch of bogus rules that he didn't agree with and had nothing to do with in the first place.   Boy if that ain't throwing RWD, and the rest of the general board under the bus, I don't know what in the world is?  

Listen here, armed with this information, I'd have no reason to believe that God inspired one single rule that RWD ever spewed out of his big fat mouth.   "Ask permission to go visit who"?  "Ask permission to stop where"?  "Ask permission to accept a job"?  "Ask permission to date or talk to who"?  "Stand against the wall just to talk to a woman"?  "You said it's a sin for all women to work"?  "Where is that rule found in the Bible, Proverbs 31"? "REALLY, ARE YOU SERIOUS, ARE YOU KIDDING ME"?  

Obey them that have rule over you?  When I know that they have a history of coming up with a bunch of bogus rules that Kekel doesn't even agree with, and he considers himself to be  unfortunate for even having to enforce them?  REALLY?  Huh!!  Never again.   I'm a grown man with a family to look out for.   You can follow a bunch of stupid rules and con artists if you want to but I'm not the one.

Chief  

P.S.  I wouldn't follow M.C. Kekel or RWD to find a toilet (say no less as spiritual leaders) if I had diarrhea.  

A Request From Double Ugh

Double Ugh asked...

I do want to bring up a possibility.  If you wouldn't mind starting one more topic that is just open for people to vent or maybe post how good they are doing since they left.  I know we've been much  happier.

What Do You Suppose Would Be Proudly Proclaimed Across Many NTCC Pulpits Had This Happened To Me?

Apparently Pastor and Sis Cyrius were recently in a serious automobile accent which ripped the roof off their BMW700 series automobile.  I don't know the extent of their injuries but it's my understanding that both of their faces were messed up to one degree or another.   That is an unfortunate occurrence and I wish them no ill-will and I hope they have a speedy and complete recovery.   These things can happen to anyone and it's just circumstance.   The Bible proves this.

Ecclesiastes 7:14  In the day of prosperity be joyful, but in the day of adversity consider: God also hath set the one over against the other, to the end that man should find nothing after him.  15 All things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just man that perisheth in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongeth his life in his wickedness.

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

So what is my point?  If I were to get into a car accident and the roof got ripped off because I hit a horse who was in the road, and I was driving 80mph, what do you suppose you'd hear come across some NTCC pulpits?  "Did you here what happened to J. Collins?  God judged him because he mocked the man of God on his blog!!!  That's right; God used a horse to judge Collins.  God had that horse stand right in the middle of the road and that horse was more obedient than Collins, and now because of his sin and disrespect toward the man of God, Collins is laid up in a hospital with his face all messed up and plenty of time to think about his mockery toward the man of God.  But even God is merciful because Collins could be dead but God is giving him such a time as this to repent of his disrespect but God might not be so merciful next time.  You see this is what happens when you mock R.W. Davis who is the man of GAWD!"

Sharp contrast to what you might of read on Mike Kekels blog about the Cyrius accident, hey?  Well my point is that this kind of occurrence can happen to anyone and you NTCCers need to stop being so superstitious.  I almost hit a dear just the other day but I managed to avoid it, barely.  The Cyrius couple wasn't so fortunate but I don't see it as Gods judgment; I simply see it as circumstance that can happen to anyone, plain and simple.  The purpose of this article isn't to capitalize on the Cyrius calamity (as I wish them no harm) but rather to highlight the NTCC leadership's hypocrisy which is so glaringly prevalent.   I'd bet my last dollar that if something like that had happened to me, it would get blasted across the pulpit in conference as "judgment" so that people would think I'd got slammed by God and be scared to come anywhere near this blog.   I know that for certain because I've heard RWD and his pastors highlight the calamity of folks who've left the NTCC say no less folks who've left and opposed the NTCC leadership.

Well for the record, life has been a million times better in every regard, since I left the NTCC then it ever was while I was with the NTCC and much of that is not circumstance.  How do I know?  Because some crook, unqualified New Testament Christian Church counselor isn't making decisions that affect me anymore, I make decisions that impact me and my family and if the good Lord has helped me, (which based on known evidence appears possible if not probable) I appreciate it.   If the Lord hasn't directed and guided my success, then I'm a very fortunate dude, because believe me, things have certainly been going my way for quite some time. No matter how you look at it, God has been very good to me up to this point because tomorrow that could end.  I take the good with the bad because I can't imagine that my extra ordinarily great success can last for too long.   If I wrote my story on this blog, people would certainly wonder with some degree of amazement about how I could continually and inexplicably remain so fortunate, time after time after time these last few years since I left the NTCC.    Don knows, because I tell him of all the things that happen to me and for  a few years now even to this very day, they just don't seem to stop.  I just don't like sticking too much of my business here on this blog.

Chief   

Keep It In Your Church, RWD Would. In Fact, He Does!

Let's consider tithe for a moment here.   I'm not writing this article to defend or refute the doctrine of compulsory tithing.   Some folks believe that tithing is a New Testament biblical mandate while others maintain that there is no New Testament scriptural evidence to validate such assertions. Either way, people will believe what they believe and that is not going to stop.  What we do know is that the New Testament Christian Church leadership teaches that if you don't pay tithe, you are certainly going to hell when you die.  Where this article is concerned, I'm fine with that assertion.

 So lets look at who the New Testament Christian Church leadership teaches that you should pay tithe to?  The pastor of your church, am I right?  In the Old Testament, the children of Israel payed tithe to the Levites because they weren't otherwise given an inheritance by the Lord.  That seems to be the model that the NTCC has adopted.   Having said that I have a few questions.  Who does RWD and Kekel pay tithe to?  I doubt Kekel writes out a tithe check and gives it to RWD so lets assume Kekel and RWD make tithe checks out to New Testament Christian Church INC, a Missouri Corporation, and lets assume that the checks are deposited into a corporate account in Graham or St. Louis.  OK, I'm find with that.  Well who controls the money in that account? That's easy, RWD.  And what do you suppose that money is spent on?  Whatever RWD wants to spend it on.  The extremely nice RVs he enjoys, more rental properties? Maybe the property that he had previously placed in the NTCCs name and gifted to the Kekels? I don't know and neither do you (unless you are RWD or Kekel) but it gets spent on something, and for certain that something is a direct benefit to RWD and Kekel?  New song books or nice pews for the chapel in "GRAHAM".  Upgrades to all the NTCC property in "GRAHAM".  We don't know because contrary to the way money is meticulously monitored in the NTCC satellite churches, there is no financial transparency or system of checks and balances in Graham.     Do you suppose tithe money sent to Graham from Atlanta or Ft. Hood was used for the church in Atlanta or the church Fort Hood for example?  Of course not so that brings about my next question.  

If RWD and Kekel basically pay tithe to themselves i.e. to accounts which they have control of, why don't other NTCC pastors do the same?   Davis is not a Levite or a son of Aaron so why pay him tithe when you are the pastor of your own church?  Because he is the quote, "senior apostle"?  Where in the Bible does it say to pay tithe to the "senior apostle"? Certainly not in 2 Corinthians because Paul, (who was the senior Apostle) physically present with the church in Corinth for 1 1/2 years, (Acts 18:11) didn't accept a dime from that church and more importantly he refused to, (2 Cor 11:9).  So if the church in Corinth was not required to pay Paul tithe and Paul was right there with the Corinthians ministering for 1 1/2 years, why do you NTCC pastors send your tithe to Graham Washington to be controlled by RWD who doesn't minister to you at all?  Come on let's be real, you might even talk to the guy maybe once every 6 months if that?  

So here is my point and please NTCC Pastors, be open minded.  Why do you send tithe to Graham when Kekel/RWD and the NTCC INC have their own "church" accounts which are supposedly funded by their tithe, their church members tithe and the tithe from ministers who live there?  RWD wouldn't fund someone else's church in a million years so why do you?  Your tithe should stay in your own church account that you and your church have control of.  That way you wouldn't have to call Graham to ask permission to buy this or buy that and you wouldn't have to ask permission to spend more than $50.  RWD would never do that so why do you?   I know the  answer the NTCC leadership gives because I've been told this by NTCC leaders.   You NTCC pastors don't have control of the money that you bring into your church because the NTCC leadership doesn't trust you!  Ok that's fine but conversely, why should you trust them to do right by the money that you send to Graham when you could just keep it right in your church?  Trust is a two way street Brother!!! You can't say that keeping your tithe money in your church is wrong, from a doctrinal standpoint because that is exactly what RWD and Kekel does.  They wouldn't control my escrow account either, not for one second, but that is a "slightly" different subject. Once you become a pastor, your tithe should stay in your church, period.  If you want to make sure that your tithe is given as unto the Lord, then deposit it into an account that will only be used to purchase things for YOUR church or to be used as charity for the poor, fatherless or widow just like the Apostles did in 1 Cor 16 and Romans 15:26.

If I were an NTCC pastor, there is no way on God's green earth that I'm taking any of the money that my church members gave in good faith and send it to Graham Washington so the Kekel's can use it to get another mansion when the first one they had wasn't good enough.  You NTCC pastors are getting duped. 


Chief

The Land Deal Caused Davis A Lot Of Problems

For those of you who don't know, some years back the New Testament Christian Church Incorporated gifted 39 acres of land to Mike and Tanya Kekel, which as of 2008 was valued at $373,000.  If you are interested in the seeing a copy of the warranty deed, it can be found by clicking here.

Last night I talked to a gentleman from Graham who told me that RWD held a meeting some years back with ministers and seminary students.  At the meeting RWD addressed the land deal and he told the people in the audience that he could spend his money however he wanted to include giving his daughter and son-in-law 39 acres of land.  Strangely,  RWD closed the meeting by telling everyone that they would die and go to hell if they didn't pay their tithe!   Boy old RWCross is one seriously warped, rich individual.   Being both rich and warped is a bad combination.  Anyway, the gentleman who I talked to, felt that the New Testament Christian Church lost a lot of people because of the land deal.   That is good news for those of us who were involved in posting that information.  I know of 4 people for certain who left the NTCC because of the land deal and I'm sure there were a lot more.  

The real ethical problem surrounding the land deal was that the land (prior to being gifted to the Kekels) was New Testament Christian Church property.  Notice I said "gifted" because that is how it was phrased on the warranty deed, (that it was given as a gift).  Since when do CHURCHES give property gifts valued at over $300,000 to the founders daughter and son-in-law?  It's my understanding that the Kekel's have since given it back to the New Testament Christian Church, but I don't know that for certain and even if they did, that would put it right back in Davis' hands to do whatever he wanted with it just like he proved he could do in the past.  Whether or not they gave it back really doesn't matter because the whole ordeal was crooked in the first place and it's proof to how RWD and the New Testament Christian Church operates.  

So what is the moral of the story?  Unless you want to go to hell, you better pay your tithe so the New Testament Christian Church can  give it away to the likes of Mike and Tanya.  That way, they'll have plenty of money to put their son through a real college (which happens to be catholic) and I don't care if he has a scholarship.   So does my daughter and it still costs us plenty of money and my daughter isn't even driving a car in college like I suspect Grant is even though I could be wrong.  Automobile insurance for someone under 25 is REAL expensive.  So when you pay your tithe, just know you are helping out Grant a lot.  Just learn to forget about your own children because in the grand scheme of things in the NTCC, your children don't matter; only Grant does.   If you think otherwise you're an idiot.  

If you are in the New Testament Christian Church,  you are really getting taken to the cleaners, used and played like a sucker.   R.W. Davis, Olson, Kekel and all the rest of them can take a long walk off a short pier.   They would do more for humanity to be fed to the sharks.   That way, the sharks might not be so hungry so as to attack innocent swimmers.  RWD, Kekel and Olson are all sharks so that fate would be fitting. 

Chief

To Waste Money Like Only The NTCC Can

The New Testament Christian Church can seriously waste your hard earned money.  When my family started attending the NTCC  in Columbus, Ga,  only a few brothers lived in a small serviceman's home.   That house was plenty ample considering the small number of brothers who lived there.  I thought it was a nice home and I expressed that openly but sister Hunt immediately saw the need to correct me by suggesting that they needed a larger, nicer serviceman's home.   I disagreed but I was told that I just didn't understand.   Denis who was a visiting overseer and still in the NTCC at the time,  convinced Hunt that together, they should go out and look for a larger serviceman's home and they found one.   Of course Hunt, who had delusions of grandeur, bought of on that notion hook line and sinker.   At the time, Denis only had the split in mind but nevertheless, it didn't financially make sense to move only a few brothers (including one who was leaving soon) into what would be a four bedroom house with a swimming pool in the back yard, two large living rooms, a huge dinning room, spacious kitchen, and a large enclosed back family room.   Of course rent was considerably higher than the smaller house they moved out of.  

After a very short period of time, there were no brothers living in the home.   Then they'd get one here and one there for brief periods of time but for the most part the home stayed absolutely empty other than the pastor and his wife.  Then Oberhauser took over as pastor and he never had any success at all getting the home occupied with brothers.  From a business and a spiritual standpoint, he was a complete failure.  So for all intensive purposes, (with very few exceptions) the large home stayed empty from the beginning of 2004 - 2008.  During that time the air conditioning unit either didn't work or didn't work effectively.  Oberhauser didn't even keep the unit on and that home would get uncomfortably warm.   One time L.D. Jones showed up and insisted that Oberhauser turn the AC on because we were in there and it was hot.   

Well a few years into that whole debacle, I came to the realization that the NTCC was doing no more than wasting our hard earned money on an excessively large home that only Oberhauser and his wife lived in.   They also had to spend money to keep the pool up that of course wasn't even used.   I called up Oberhauser and asked why he didn't just move out of that home because it was obviously a money pit and Oberhauser always gave excuses why that couldn't happen.   Of course Oberhauser and the NTCC leadership wasn't too worried about it because it wasn't directly their money that was being wasted on that house, it was OURS!!!!!  Oberhauser didn't have a job.  So during the years of 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, and part of 2008, our tithe and offering money was flushed straight down the toilet, both figuratively and literally, every time Oberhauser and his wife took a dump in that large unnecessary money pit of a house.  

The other day MDR told me that he was wasting thousands of dollars monthly, when he first got to Japan because what was explained to him to be a self sustaining church was anything but that when he arrived.   MDR was not the only NTCC pastor who told me he was lied to in that regard.   Other NTCC pastors have said that they were lied to by RWD and told that they were going somewhere to take over a monetarily "self sustaining" church and when they arrived, there was hardly anyone in church or in the home.   In some cases even five people or less and as a result the pastor had to immediately find a job just to pay the rent.   MDR can expound on this a whole lot better than I can. 

The moral of the story: RWD the dupester and Kekel the con-artist will tell you that you shouldn't spend money and you are broke because you do, but that is anything but the truth.  RWD will teach you every trick in the book on how to save money, not run up credit card dept, not finance cars and that is all good advice.  At the same time RWD will motivate pastors to waste every dime that comes into the church on a money pit home like the one in Columbus Georgia and RWD doesn't have a problem with that because he is not the one "directly" paying the rent.   Indirectly he is, but he doesn't seem to have a problem with that when the cold hard cash isn't coming directly out of his own pocket.   

Chief

Rules, Rules, Rules And Traditions Of Men. The Pharisees And The NTCC Leadership; Peas From The Same Pod.

What are the most ridiculous rules/traditions that the New Testament Christian Church leadership ever dreamed up?   If any come to mind, please post them if you get a chance.  I know this has been done before but repetition is often a good thing.   In the previous thread, Don effectively referenced an applicable scripture which most effectively describes the attitudes of the NTCC Pharisees.

Mat 15:2  Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.

Does that describe the NTCC leadership or what?  Kekel, RWD and Olson act just like the Pharisees with all their man-made rules and traditions.   One of the most ridiculous rules I can remember, is being told that we couldn't use our computers to do our soul-winning reports but rather we had to write them by hand twice over; one for our records and one for the pastor.   We could have done it on our computer and printed out two copies ten times as fast.  That was just one example of Mayers trying to run his church like the NTCS a.k.a. the school of ridiculous rules.  Of course Mayers only got that from Kekel and RWD.  Kekel taught it in conference and RWD endorsed it and I was there. If Kekel says he didn't teach that he is a liar because I listened to him.  He said you should do your reports in a predetermined location such as a fast food place prior to ever going home.  I suppose we were all supposed to walk into KFC with desktops?  I wanted to do the report back at my house on my "desktop" and Mayers said no, thanks to Kekel's bright idea.  They can take all those rules and shove em.   Jesus didn't like those rules and neither do I.


Chief

Pickup That Stuff With Your Fingers And Stop Playing Kiss-up

    Big Turkey Leg    

To the left are pictures of "finger food".  That old turkey leg got picked up by someone's hand and they bit a big chuck right out of it.  You see that nice greasy piece of pizza and those fries and onion rings?  You pick those up with your fingers. You know why those fries are smiling? It's a happy meal, and it only stays happy if the good little children pick out the fries with their fingers.  If those sweet children aren't allowed to, it gets real sad with a pitiful frown.  Olson, you big meanie. Don't listen to Olson the control monger and don't let him get you all convicted with thinking you've lost your salvation cause you've eaten these foods with your hands.  Practical theology?  Are you kidding me?  That is more like practical control mongering?  That is a bunch of nonsense.  That junk has nothing to do with salvation.  Keep that stuff for the princes, queens and nobles in the Buckingham Palace.  Stop worrying about your spoon  hitting the side of your coffee cup while you're mixing up the cream and sugar.   

How many people do you think have gotten saved because they watched you eating fries, onion rings and chicken wings with a fork for crying out loud?  NOT ONE!!!  In fact, you've probably driven more people away from your church and Jesus with that mess because they didn't want to be anything like you.  That is no more than a bunch of legalistic trash perpetuated by a bunch of control mongers who have nothing better to dream up.   I understand good manners and I got that, but picking up fries, wings and onion rings with your fingers has nothing to do with a "lack" of good manners.  For RWD, Olson and Kekel to sit there and gawk at you in a judgmental fashion while you are eating is ridiculous.  These are the kinds of things I can't stand about the New Testament Christian Church. 

Where in the Bible does it say you can't pick food up with your fingers.   What do you think they used to hand out and break apart the fishes and the loaves with; a set of tongs?  That is just another bunch of bologna rules, no pun intended.  Man I'll snatch a piece of bologna and cheese right out of the fridge and role it up like a hot dog and gobble it right down with my hands!  Oh, I suppose I'm not saved now.   Do you think Jesus was worried about the garbage.   RWD and Olson should spend more time worrying about the fatherless, poor and the widow rather than worrying about how you eat some chicken and fries.  When they run out of other stuff to NITPICK about, they start watching how you eat.  That's called "straining at a gnat".   Those guys are the most judgmental hypocrites I've ever met in my life.  God could care less about how you eat a chicken leg.  God cares about your heart so stop trying to be a man pleaser while being over concerned about how you eat in Olson's, Kekel's or RWD's presents. 

Chief

To Lose Self-Worth And Self-Respect

That is exactly what's happened to you if you've bought off on the most recent statement that Mr. Kekel typed on his blog concerning the reason's that "fellowship meetings" were essentially stopped.

First point:  Mr Kekel said that fellowship meetings need to be quote "supervised" by an overseer.  So a "pastor" can start a church from scratch, travel all over the world, spend time in the military, supposedly be "called and chosen" by God (according to RWD) to lead souls to a place of eternal peace, and he can't be trusted to meet with others who hold like qualifications to have church without quote "supervision"?  You are kidding right?  Especially after they did it for decades?

Second point:  Mr Kekel said that the primary reason that fellowship meetings were stopped was to "ease the financial burden on the churches".   Of course this is after he said that pastors needed to be supervised but I've already left that point.  Financial burden?  I spent years in the NTCC and fellowship meetings never caused me an additional financial burden? In fact they saved me money.  Let me make one thing perfectly clear.   If there hadn't been fellowship meetings, I would have spend money on gas driving all over creation that Saturday for a trip to the church in the morning, soul winning, money on food during the at least 6 hour period while we were out, a trip to the determined location where we'd turn in our stupid reports, back home if we even had time and if not, more money spent on another meal, picking up people for church, putting money in the offering, taking people back home and then finally, a trip back to my house.   You are kidding right Kekel?   I don't care if the fellowship meeting was four hours away. It didn't cost me any more money to go there then it did to stay right were I was at?  As far as the actual "church" was concerned, if a preacher loosing the offering money which essentially amounted to the chump change given by the "Saturday's" usual small crowd hurt his wallet, then your system has made him too broke in the first place.  I don't buy it Kekel because what you've written makes no sense at all, and I haven't lost my ability or will to think with my brain which you didn't successfully steal from me even though you certainly tried hard enough.  That explanation is lame and insulting.   If those preachers are that broke, the problem isn't fellowship meetings but rather them needing to get a better job with more hours or get a job period!  Oh, but once again it's not about the church members financial stability but about them staying in their own town every Saturday while spending every dime of their own money that the church can suck out of them so the "Church" isn't financially affected!!!!

Third Point:  Kekel wrote...  "But for some people (referring to the ministers), everything is a burden."  Oh really? Boy isn't that an insult!!! These are supposedly Gods elite spokesman who RWD placed according to God's direction in their respective positions and for some of them, "everything is a burden"?   Everything is a problem for them, right Kekel?  They are complainers, whiners, never happy, right Kekel?   So you feel that way but you actually keep these men in positions as pastors and I'm supposed to be stupid enough to believe they are qualified to lead me to heaven?  Really?! Are they supposed to be stupid enough to let a spoiled brat like you who has never had to struggle for a dime refer to them like that?  That is easy for you to say you pathetic piece of trash. Everything has been handed to you on a platter so you don't know what it's like to have a quote, "burden".  Your church was handed to you, your geographical stability was handed to you,  all the tithe money was handed to you,  an exemption of all the rules that applied to other NTCC children was handed to you.  You don't know what a burden is or what it's like to struggle Mr Kekel, so therefor you can even relate to their "burdens".  You better believe everything is a burden when you encourage them not to work, while pioneering a church with a wife and kids under toe, while at the same time they are sending half the money that comes into their church up to Graham to fund your son's $80,000 high school education and secular Catholic college.  That would be a burden for me also!!!  Makes me sick. 

Forth point:  Kekel said a few preachers strove over who was leading service, whose wife would sing and who would preach.  So you stopped a practice that's existed for decades because of a "few" preachers conduct?  Sounds like a knee jerk mass punishment to me. Frankly I witnessed some of the same but my question is, what makes you, Mr. Kekel, qualified to judge those other pastors?  Kekel's spoiled wife was handed every microphone that ever came anywhere near her on a platter and so was Kekel, even though he doesn't preach nearly as effectively as many others I've heard.  And not only that, but if that is the way Kekel and RWD feels about so many NTCC pastors, why in the world would they even leave them in church leadership positions? Because it ain't about souls if you guys and your wives are that petty and they know it.  It's about the expansion of their real-estate empire at whatever cost.  How on Gods green earth is a pastor supposed to lead souls to heaven if those are the things he's worried about.  Kekel dogged you guys out, plain and simple and don't say, "none of that applies to me" because it certainly was directed at a whole lot more than just one, or they wouldn't have canceled fellowship meetings altogether unless there is "SUPERVISION".

Fifth point:  The truth of the matter is, I don't believe any of the reasons he gave are the "MAIN" reason they stopped fellowship meetings without the presents of "supervision". Too many people are leaving the NTCC and they don't want you guys talking in the absence of supervision, plain and simple.  It's called censorship or information control; cult 101. They know that when you guys are allowed to talk freely, in the absence of supervision, you'll learn how crooked they are and wind up leaving the NTCC just like MDR, Barnes, Granger, Scrivins and all the rest.  If so many of you guys are as ate-up as Kekel suggested, why in the world do they even keep you or your associates as pastors?  Do you actually believe that the kind of conduct that Kekel described is going to get people to heaven?  If you do,  you are one seriously mislead,  blind leading the blind individual, and that is why I left the NTCC. 

Chief

Same Old Song And Dance In The New Testament Christian Church

I received a phone call today from an individual who had been to visit the New Testament Christian Church in Jackson, Mississippi.  This individual (who's gender I will not disclose because the NTCC leadership thinks they are a bunch of private investigators) had questions about the NTCC.  This person also had concerns because of a recurrence that this person had witnessed within the church in Jackson.   I also won't specify what was taking place because if I do, they will probably fix their mistake and as a result, less people will be run off.  Well that is not what we want around here.  Ha, ha.  We want their ignorance and blunders to result in people getting run off. 

This person also told me that pastor Terry wouldn't talk about Barnes departure as though Terry was trying to hide something which is typical in the NTCC.  They want to keep everyone in the dark lest folks learn of their dirty secrets.   Based on what this person told me about the number of people in church, it became obvious that when pastor Barnes left the NTCC, he took most or all of his congregation with him.  Good for him.   I wonder what was so wrong with the NTCC that a man (pastor Barnes) who RWD openly praised in conference, would just up and leave the NTCC and take his congregation with him?  Things that make you go hmmmm.  I mean this was the guy that RWD spoke so highly of saying that he was such a great leader and minister for the New Testament Christian Church.  I heard RWD say it with my own ears because I was present at that conference.  Isn't it ironic that so many people who RWD praises wind up leaving the NTCC?  Back to the story.  

So this person had questions and I gave answers and needless to say, I strongly suspect that this individual won't be returning to the NTCC.  Like, I'm basically positive. For those who read and support this blog, believe me when I tell you, "we are winning", one soul at a time.  Freedom is wonderful.  Know the truth, and the truth shall set  you free.  Oh, this person also told me that pastor Terry spoke of a period of hard financial times that pastor Terry had been through since he'd been in the NTCC.   Such a great testimony.  I love it when they tell the truth.  So pastor Terry is about 50 and he's been with the NTCC for about 30 year as I'd already surmised.  He is living in a low budget, low cost of living apartment complex, and he's endured long periods of financial destitution since he's been with the NTCC.   For all of you who envy pastor Terry, you might want to find someone else to play that role.

I don't envy that mess at all thank you.  With any luck, Terry's church will continue to make the same blunders and people will continue to dig for more information about the New Testament Christian Church, and I'll keep getting phone calls and people will keep leaving.     

Cha Chief, Cha Chief, Cha Chief, Chief, Chief.  

Dot, Da Dot, Da Dot, Dot, Dot,

People can keep giving me phone calls,
So folks can walk, away from the halls,
Of the crooked church, you know me,
My name is Chiefy Chief Chief, don't give me no beef.  

I like for people, to hear the truth, 
So they don't turn, in-to a goof, 
In the crooked church, you know me,
My name is Chiefy Chief Chief, and I ain't no thief.  

Folks are leaving in numbers and scores,
Because the church leadership, treats them like whores,
They leave the crooked church, you know me,
My name is Chiefy Chief Chief, don't give me no beef.

Barnes is gone and so is MDR,
They wouldn't go back if they gave them a car,
They left the crooked church, can't you see,
My name is Chiefy Chief Chief, and I am free.

The NTCC, is a cult, 
If you go to their door, you better halt,
Don't step into their church, you better beware,
They will mess up your life, so don't you dare, 
Hear the Chiefy Chief Chief, and you will see,
Find a different church, and grow like a tree.  

Real Prosperity, Not The Fake NTCC Stuff That Leaves You Destitute When All Is Said And Done.

I work not far from a friend who together with me used to attend the same  New Testament Christian Church.  We went to eat lunch yesterday and talked about our quality of life, specifically since we left the NTCC.   He left the  New Testament Christian Church  about 5 years ago and I left about 4 years ago.  He recently became a Warrant Officer and he and his family are doing exceptionally well.   I currently have the best job I ever had in my life and I am also doing extremely well. We  have another friend who is getting ready to become a Commissioned Officer, (who also used to be in the NTCC and no longer is) and he is also doing very, very well.
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All of us have great retirement plans and all of us enjoy life tremendously.   None of us enjoyed life nearly as much nor did any of us enjoy nearly the level of prosperity while we were in the  New Testament Christian Church .   Why is that?  Is Christianity supposed to be drudgery surrounded by poverty? 
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The fact is, just about everyone I talk to (who used to be in the NTCC and has gotten out) almost without exception, has a far better life than they did while they were with the New Testament Christian Church.  NO COMPARISON!!  Now I've taken notice of one significant exception here.  Many women who were doing poorly (like the rest of us) while they were in the NTCC are still doing poorly since they've left the NTCC.   I know why that is. Women in the NTCC are treated like second class citizens and often treated quite poorly.   They are deprived of any chance of obtaining any professional credentials,  they are constantly psychologically abused and misused,  and quite frankly many of them get severely messed up in the head.  They become rather dysfunctional in many cases and their biggest problems really begin when for a variety of reasons they find themselves needing to provide for themselves.   Ladies listen up and listen good.  The NTCC absolutely messes you up and you get messed up royally and do you know why?  I'll tell you why quite "matter of factly".  Because what the NTCC teaches is outright false doctrine from a Biblical standpoint and you ladies wind up as the unfortunate victims of this diabolical debacle.  
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For the most part, us guys maintain certain job skills even while we are with the NTCC which allows us to keep some degree of marketability.   For you ladies it is not so.  Guys maintain some level of "self confidence" and "self worth" and once again, for you women it is not so because it is stolen from you.   So what is the end result?  You unfortunate ladies who haplessly and disastrously stumble across the NTCC, quite often get psychologically and occupationally screwed up for life.  
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How can I say that with such certainty and know I'm right?  Because since I've started this blog, I've received many phone calls from NTCC and exNTCC women, and often the resounding commonality is that they are messed up in the head and I mean royally.   I'm sure many of them wouldn't mind me writing this as they had no reservations expressing that fact.  Not only did they share that information but it was fairly evident as I talked to them.   Just as with many ladies who are still in the NTCC, things didn't work out between them and their husbands however the husbands made out fine but to the contrary, the women were left high and dry.  Either that, or the women remained married but had been so screwed up in the head while in the NTCC, they didn't know how or couldn't lead a productive prosperous life.   Thank God I got my wife out of that mess when she did.   She still hasn't got over the way she was treated by certain jerk NTCCers and frankly I haven't either cause I feel guilty that I didn't pull her completely out of that mess the very first time it happened.  She was following me!  The NTCC leaves deep, life lasting scars.  
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Women, your one and only life here on this earth is being stolen from you.  That is NOT God's plan or intent, nor was it ever.  RWD's male chauvinistic pig ways are affecting you in ways many of you can't even imagine right now, but one day you will, however then it will likely be too late.  Many of you get a job making a paupers wage but any type of retirement and rest is nowhere in your future here on earth.  Some do get a job earning a decent wage, but have gotten too old to reasonably expect to save enough money to ever retire. Hey I'm just being real.  The NTCC has stolen any chance of that ever happening unless you are Tanya Kekel or very close to her.   Sure there are a few exceptions but not many.  For every woman in the NTCC who is the exception, there are thousands who are not.  I'd don't like those odds.  Ladies, those odds are not in your favor.  
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Ladies and Gentlemen; get out of the NTCC and take your life back and live the life that God intended, because along with many of my friends, I can promise you, life is far better outside NTCC walls.  The NTCC doom and gloom false prophets are liars who've prophesied poverty on all who leave their crooked organization.  My life and the lives of many others stand as a testament to their false predictions.  
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If you feel trapped by the NTCC call me, I may have good advise for you. 
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Chief

The New Testament Christian Church And The Catholic Church. They May Differ But They Certainly Agree In One Area.

I've recently done some research about the Catholic church and despite some obvious doctrinal differences they certainly agree with the NTCC in one area; tithes and offerings. 

Some years ago I read an article which stated that the Catholic church owns more land than any other organization in the United States of America. Sound familiar? The Catholic church is after a whole lot of property and so is Davis.  The only difference is, the Catholic church has a head start on Davis.  Don't they both have the same agenda? I was still with the NTCC when I read that article and it really grabbed my interest.  How could a supposed "crooked" church become so wealthy?  Does God reward crooks?  Now I understand and it's quite simple; just like the NTCC the Catholic church gets wealthy off the backs of it's congregates, PERIOD.

Here is an excerpt from an article I read about Tithing and the Catholic Church: "Tithing occurs in a Catholic Mass directly before the presentation of the gifts for communion. Ushers will walk through the center aisle (and outside aisles if there are enough people) carrying baskets. Parishioners will then drop money or envelopes into the basket. Those with envelopes are actual members of that particular Catholic Church."

Isn't that interesting?  What caught my attention is the part where it said "Those with envelopes are actual members".   I know that is factual because I grew up in the Catholic Church and my parents were members, and the church gave them LARGE STACKS of envelopes for tithes and offerings.  The stack of envelopes would sit on the dresser in my parents bedroom.   Isn't it essentially the same in the NTCC?  They may not give out stacks of envelopes (in advance) but they don't need to.  The envelopes are available in the church and the pastor carefully keeps a record of who gives.  Just like the Catholics, you are ONLY considered a member if you give!!!

You can commit just about any sin imaginable in the NTCC and still remain a member and or a minister or overseer and such has been chronicled right here on this blog. Homosexuality, adultery, child sex abuse and the list goes on.  Stop paying your tithe and see what happens?  Am I lying?  If you think I'm lying, call and tell me and I'll categorically prove that my assertion is correct with irrefutable evidence.  


Here's something else I read about giving money to the Catholic Church which caught my attention.  "Visitors to a Catholic Mass should give money to the collection even if they are not Catholic themselves. If nothing else, think of it as tipping after a meal."  Sound familiar?  I've herd Davis say something quite similar in conference.  Where do you suppose he learned all this?  He reads just like I do.

Here is something else that was written in the article about the Catholic church. "In a way, tithing can be a benefit to your soul as being a true Christian is how you can enter the kingdom of Heaven."  So the Catholics also teach that you are not "a true Christian" unless you pay tithe.  All Christians pay tithe and give in the offering right?

The NTCC and the Catholic Church are full of it and the one thing they have in common is that in both churches, you aren't considered true Christians unless you give "THEM" your money.  I'll tell you what the leaders in the Catholic Church and the NTCC both have in common; they are con artists and good at it. 

Chief 

The Rich And The Poor. The New Testament Christian Church. It's Set Up That Way.

To the left is a picture of an NTCC van with a cracked windshield.  Kind of like the one down in Jackson, Mississippi.  

RWD always taught that we should aspire to be like New Testament Christian Church Pastors.   Sorry but you can have it.  For those of you who don't know, Pastor R. Terry is now the pastor of the NTCC in Jackson Mississippi since Pastor Barnes left.  The church van/bus in Jackson, Mississippi is Pontiac Montana with a cracked windshield.  The Pontiac Montana is no longer made and received a "Poor" rating by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). It was also ranked the "Worst Performing Vehicle".  Not exactly what I'd want to be riding to church in.  Point being is that this van has "low budget" written all over it which is typical to find driven by someone in the NTCC.  I wonder why the NTCC would buy such a cheap, low budget van?  Why don't the Kekels live this way?  Are they that much smarter than everyone else or do they just receive preferential treatment?  Are the Kekel's so much more spiritual than everyone else that the Lord primarily blesses them?  Which one is it?  The Kekel's sure live better than the Terry's, of that you can be certain.  Aw, they let Terry lead song service during conferences.  I guess that makes it all worth it.  All you've got to do is give him a bone.  Crumbs from the masters table baby.  

Additionally why is it that the NTCC hasn't updated it's "official website" reflecting Pastor Terry as the Jackson, Mississippi Pastor?  He has been there for a good part of this year.  What is the NTCC trying to hide?  That Bellamy and Barnes have left?   The NTCC official website is simply a lie.  They've had more than enough time to update it.  

Anyway I wouldn't want to live like Pastor Terry is living at around 50 years old.   My family deserves better and so does Pastor Terry's wife.   The Terry's live in a low/special income apartment dwelling in Jackson.  Other than the Kekels or a few other special privileged NTCC preachers,  is that what an NTCC pastor has to look forward to at 50 years of age?  Driving a low budget outdated crappy Pontiac van with a broke windshield and living in a low income dwelling place?   WOW!!!

Serve almost 30 years in the NTCC and this is what you have to look forward to?  Get sent to pick up the pieces of a church that the long time pastor (Barnes) left, and live at or below the poverty level?   At about 50 years old?   And Terry was sent there specifically and primarily because he is black and there is a fairly sizable population of blacks there who don't have a problem paying tithes and offerings? There are Whites in Jackson too you know. I guess there aren't too many white pastors who've had a whole lot of success getting tithes out of the white population in the south. So does God primarily care about the blacks in the south? The NTCC sent Terry down there in an attempt to attract the blacks; same reason they sent Mayers to Atlanta and Davis to Macon and Solomon to Dothan.  White Pastors before Mayers didn't fair so well in Atlanta.  They tried to mix up the Atlanta deal with a couple white helpers but that didn't work out too well cause they all got sick of Mayers shenanigans and left him. After a while Mayers didn't work out too well either.  If he is even still with the NTCC, he has been riding on auto pilot for a while now.  Money and numbers baby; that's what it's all about.  


Tanya Kekel can spend the money blacks give just like she can spend the money whites give.  I don't see the NTCC sending the Kekels down to Jackson to live like that?  You can keep that mess.   This is the NTCC way.  If  you don't see it you are blind.  By the way, why did Barnes leave the NTCC?  Maybe he knew something that the people who are still with the NTCC don't or don't want to admit.  Barnes won't be sending his church money to Graham anymore or paying for more RVs.  He won't be taking in anymore money which could be used to put G. Kekel through a Catholic college either. Has anyone even asked why Barnes left?  No because most are scared.  The NTCC leadership wouldn't tell you the truth anyway.  I wasn't a big fan of Barnes but he was smart to fly the coop.  

Chief

Oh The Hypocrisy That Drove A Man To Murder And Suicide.

This is a tough one.  Not quite as easy as I expected but nevertheless, here we go. There was a man in the NTCC by the name of Roland Moreno.  Roland personally observed his NTCC pastor leaving a whore house in Japan.  Roland confronted the pastor and a heated confrontation erupted between Roland and his pastor concerning the obvious impropriety and truly unchristian-like conduct committed by the supposed "man of God".    According to the account which I was personally told, the pastor said that his conduct didn't classify as adultery because he wore a condom during his sexual act with the whore.   This pastors name was  Phil Kinson! 

 Roland was somehow able to provide notification to the NTCC leadership concerning Kinson's misconduct and Mr. Kinson was later removed from Okinawa Japan and replaced by another minister.   This is when Roland's big troubles began.  The minister that replaced Mr. Kinson was Mr. Ashmore, and Mr. Ashmore promptly proceeded to blacklist and ostracize Roland Moreno.   Never again was Roland Moreno treated justly by the NTCC leadership.   The NTCC leadership to include R.W. Davis systematically targeted Roland Moreno and his wife from that point forward.  Word to the wise;  (At which point in time you elect to challenge the authority, credibility or morality of an NTCC pastor, you better be prepared to promptly leave the New Testament Christian Church for good).  You'll never win that battle and Roland had to find that out the hard way.  

At a later date, M.D. Reed had the fortitude and courage to confront R.W. Davis directly concerning  this scandal.   Pastor Reed wanted to know why RWD would promote Mr. Kinson (who was known to have committed adultery) to the position of overseer within the New Testament Christian Church.    R.W. Davis pointed his finger in Pastor Reed's face and essentially scolded Pastor Reed for involving himself in another man's adulterous affairs.   M.D. Reed posted a statement on this blog, where you can read it on the previous thread. 

Ultimately Roland Moreno was blacklisted by the NTCC leadership because he uncovered Mr. Kinson's sin.  The blacklisting obviously occurred because Kinson is the son-in-law of an NTCC overseer and in case you haven't figured it out yet, the NTCC is a family business.  This resulted in Roland succumbing to extreme depression which caused him to take the life of himself and his family.  Plainly put, "The NTCC leadership drove Moreno mad".  

Attached below is a news article which addresses Mr. Moreno's death. 

http://www.texnews.com/1998/2003/texas/texas_Police_se925.html

This is a true story which has been verified by the credible and reliable.  I was told this first hand and to the best of my knowledge I'm reporting factual information.  Make no mistake; double standard hypocrites who preach fire and brimstone will eventually be found out.  This is tragic and truly sad for all parties involved.   These crooked preachers need to do the honorable thing and leave the pulpit and stop judging everyone but themselves. 

I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints  (Mr. Moreno's blood and the blood of his family is on the hands of the NTCC leadership)

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.  For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.  For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.  How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.  Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.